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If x, y, and z are positive numbers, is x > y > z ?

(1) xz > yz
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If x, y, and z are positive numbers, is x > y > z ?

(1) xz > yz. Since z is a positive number we can safely reduce by it: x > y. Not sufficient.

(2) yx > yz. Since y is a positive number we can safely reduce by it: x > z. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) We know that x is greater than both y and z but we don't know whether y > z. Not sufficient.

Answer: E.
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We are given x , y, z > 0, all the variables are positive, we also know that multiplying/dividing each side of an inequality with a positive integer does not change the direction of the inequality. So let's analyze the statements.

Statement (1)


xz > yz z can cancel each other without affecting the direction of inequality
we can deduce x > y but don't know anything about z in relation to if it is smaller or greater than the other variables. Not Sufficient


Statement (2)


Similarly we can deduce x > z but we can't place y so Statement 2 alone is not sufficient.. (Be careful NOT to carry over statement 1 on to this one yet!!!)


Now look at:

Statement (1) & (2)


x > y and x > z so now we know is is the greatest but still we don't know whether y > z or y < z

So either of the statements together NOT sufficient. Answer E

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If x, y, and z are positive numbers, is x > y > z ?

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(2) yx > yz

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From S1:if xz>yz
and x,y,z are +ve,we can cancel out z to conclude x>y.But nothing is given about z.So insufficient.

From S2:x>z.Nothing is given about y.Insufficient.

Combining the two we get,x>y and x>z.
But whether y>/<z is not known.So insufficient.

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Ans E

We know that all are positive integers so we can divide by the variable without changing the sign.

From1:
xz>yz --> x>y Insufficient

From2:
yx>yz --> x>z Insufficient

Combining both:
x>z and x>y but we don't know anything about how y compares to z . Insufficient.
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If x, y, and z are positive numbers, is x > y > z ?

(1) xz > yz. Since z is a positive number we can safely reduce by it: x > y. Not sufficient.

(2) yx > yz. Since y is a positive number we can safely reduce by it: x > z. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) We know that x is greater than both y and z but we don't know whether y > z. Not sufficient.

Answer: E.
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Re: If x, y, and z are positive numbers, is x > y > z ?  [#permalink]

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Although the correct answer is E, can we apply the following approach? (if not, then why can't we use it?)
At the beginning, we conclude that (1) and (2) (if used separately) are not sufficient. Then, we combine these 2 inequalities, in other words, we form a system of 2 inequalities. Since x,y,z are variables, and we don’t know their signs, we cannot multiply. But we can subtract (2) from (1). As a result, this operation yields: xz-yx>yz-yz => xz-yx>0 => xz>yx => z>y => x>z>y => C
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Although the correct answer is E, can we apply the following approach? (if not, then why can't we use it?)
At the beginning, we conclude that (1) and (2) (if used separately) are not sufficient. Then, we combine these 2 inequalities, in other words, we form a system of 2 inequalities. Since x,y,z are variables, and we don’t know their signs, we cannot multiply. But we can subtract (2) from (1). As a result, this operation yields: xz-yx>yz-yz => xz-yx>0 => xz>yx => z>y => x>z>y => C


No, that's not correct. You cannot subtract yx > yz from xz > yz because their signs are in the same direction (> and >).

ADDING/SUBTRACTING INEQUALITIES:


You can only add inequalities when their signs are in the same direction:

If \(a>b\) and \(c>d\) (signs in same direction: \(>\) and \(>\)) --> \(a+c>b+d\).
Example: \(3<4\) and \(2<5\) --> \(3+2<4+5\).

You can only apply subtraction when their signs are in the opposite directions:

If \(a>b\) and \(c<d\) (signs in opposite direction: \(>\) and \(<\)) --> \(a-c>b-d\) (take the sign of the inequality you subtract from).
Example: \(3<4\) and \(5>1\) --> \(3-5<4-1\).

Adding/subtracting/multiplying/dividing inequalities: help-with-add-subtract-mult-divid-multiple-inequalities-155290.html

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Thank you. You are right!
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When I plug in numbers for

X > Y > Z such as 3 > 2 > 1 or 20 > 10 > 2

the equations from (1) and (2) are always right. Any idea why the answer is still E?

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When I plug in numbers for

X > Y > Z such as 3 > 2 > 1 or 20 > 10 > 2

the equations from (1) and (2) are always right. Any idea why the answer is still E?

Thanks a lot in advance!


You plug the numbers that answer YES to the question and then check the equations given in (1) and (2). That#s not correct. When trying to solve an YES/NO DS question with plug-in method you should try to find two sets of numbers (which satisfy given information in the stem and the statements), that give different answer to the question (one YES and another NO). For example, you can check x=10, y=5 and z=1 for an YES answer and x=10, y=1 and z=5 for a NO answer.

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1, xz>yz ; x > y Insufficient
2, yx > yz ; x > z Insufficient
3, No data about y and z Insufficient
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if x, y, and z are positive numbers, is x > y > z ?

(1) xz > yz
(2) yx > yz

Can you tell me if this method will work ?

divide eq 2 by eq 1

yx/xz>yz/yz

yx/xz>1
yx>xz
and since all are positive
y>z ?

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renjana wrote:
if x, y, and z are positive numbers, is x > y > z ?

(1) xz > yz
(2) yx > yz

Can you tell me if this method will work ?

divide eq 2 by eq 1

yx/xz>yz/yz

yx/xz>1
yx>xz
and since all are positive
y>z ?

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You cannot divide equations like that. For example:

2 > 1
1 > 1/10

If you divide you'll get 2 > 10, which is not correct.
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Bunuel wrote:
renjana wrote:
if x, y, and z are positive numbers, is x > y > z ?

(1) xz > yz
(2) yx > yz

Can you tell me if this method will work ?

divide eq 2 by eq 1

yx/xz>yz/yz

yx/xz>1
yx>xz
and since all are positive
y>z ?

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You cannot divide equations like that. For example:

2 > 1
1 > 1/10

If you divide you'll get 2 > 10, which is not correct.


can you tell me under an example of when it will be okay to divide inequalities ?
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