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In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled so as to marry Anne Boleyn.

(A) so as to marry
(B) and so could be married to
(C) to be married to
(D) so that he could marry
(E) in order that he would marry

Hi can anyone explain y A is wrong - A and D both uses idioms So as to and So that correctly
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The correct idiom is: X so as to be Y. For e.g. so as to be married to... Hence D is correct.

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> What I noticed is below. The issue is between A & D .

Q:-In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled so as to marry Anne Boleyn.

(A) so as to marry - This choice is ambiguous and suggests two statements.

1.He himself is not marrying Anne but to marry Anne to someone else he annulled.
2.He himself is marrying Anne


(D) so that he could marry - Unambiguously tells that King annulled so that he himself could marry Anne
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l understand D is the correct answer here, but why is answer choice E incorrect? Could someone let me know whether "in order that" an incorrect idiom?
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l understand D is the correct answer here, but why is answer choice E incorrect? Could someone let me know whether "in order that" an incorrect idiom?
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In order that. So that, to the end or purpose that, as in In order that Bob can meet my husband, we've come early. [Early 1700s]
In order to. For the purpose of, as a means to, as in We'll have to hire more help in order to finish on time. This usage always precedes a verb, such as finish in the example.

Correct answer will always be easy to understand,concise and will have clear meaning. hope it helps.

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"So that" in D is certainly simpler and more direct than "in order that" in E, but as usual, there's another reason.

If we're going to say "in order that," we shouldn't also add the conditional "would." We might get away with "could," which introduces a possibility (as in ynk's present-tense example above: "in order that Bob can meet my husband."). However, "in order that he would" is never going to be correct. If we're going to start with "in order," why not just say "in order to marry"?
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In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled so as to marry Anne Boleyn.

(A) so as to marry
(B) and so could be married to
(C) to be married to
(D) so that he could marry
(E) in order that he would marry

Hi can anyone explain y A is wrong - A and D both uses idioms So as to and So that correctly


SO THAT = Shows Purpose

In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled so that he could marry Anne Boleyn.

The green part shows the purpose for the Blue part...

He = Correctly refers to King Henry VIII

Could = Refers to Past tense of Can

Thus option (D) is correct in all respect and without doubt the correct answer for this question....
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"So that" in D is certainly simpler and more direct than "in order that" in E, but as usual, there's another reason.

If we're going to say "in order that," we shouldn't also add the conditional "would." We might get away with "could," which introduces a possibility (as in ynk's present-tense example above: "in order that Bob can meet my husband."). However, "in order that he would" is never going to be correct. If we're going to start with "in order," why not just say "in order to marry"?



very hard to eleiminate E.
I think would show a certainty, and could shows a possibility which is less likely than certainty. in this context, we need to show a possibility not a certainty. so, could not would is used.

we have no grammar rules saying that in order that should go with could.
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'so that' explains purpose and thus is the correct usage here. The purpose to annul the marriage to Queen is explained in the second half.

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Hi mikemcgarry and other experts
although I picked up D, I have no idea why A is incorrect.
What's the difference between "so as to" and "so that"

OE makes me confusing as well.
So as to marry is not idiomatically correct; it does not identify who will marry

Why so as to is not idiomatically correct, why it does not identify who will marry, IMO, it does identify King Henry VIII

Please help clarify,

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I got everything but C is clearly changing the meaning. He is a king what does it mean " so that he could marry". Though the usage of as so is wrong, I am not sure that it gives the same meaning. Can anyone make it clear for me?

I am trying to say that the sentence does not give me the idea that he should get divorced before get married to Anne.


In C, it is not clear what "to be.." refers to. It is an ambiguous sentence construction.

In D, "so that" tells us in the proper way why the previous marriage is annulled.
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Hi mikemcgarry and other experts
although I picked up D, I have no idea why A is incorrect.
What's the difference between "so as to" and "so that"

OE makes me confusing as well.
So as to marry is not idiomatically correct; it does not identify who will marry

Why so as to is not idiomatically correct, why it does not identify who will marry, IMO, it does identify King Henry VIII

Please help clarify,

Thanks in advance
Have a nice day

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How are you, my friend? I'm happy to respond. :-)

I assume you know about the Magoosh GMAT Idiom flashcards.

This is a tricky one. Choice (A) is very good---if (D) didn't exist, I could imagine that (A) could be a right answer. This is a rare case of an official question having an incorrect answer that is so good.

Version (A):
In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled so as to marry Anne Boleyn.
This is 100% grammatically correct. I think the rhetorical emphasis on the subject makes it clear who will do the marrying. Let's say this one is 90% clear.

If we didn't mention the queen, that would be 100% correct:
Version (A1):
In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage annulled so as to marry Anne Boleyn.
Now, that's 100% clear, but poor Queen Catherine of Aragon was ignored.

Version (D):
In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled so that he could marry Anne Boleyn.
This is also 100% clear, absolutely no ambiguity imaginable, and we get to keep the queen. This is win-win.

Choice (A) is not wrong. Choice (A) is very strong, AND it is not as good as Choice (D), which is above all reproach. Once again, it is rare that an official question has this pattern.

Does all this make sense? Have a good day!
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zoezhuyan wrote:
Hi mikemcgarry and other experts
although I picked up D, I have no idea why A is incorrect.
What's the difference between "so as to" and "so that"

OE makes me confusing as well.
So as to marry is not idiomatically correct; it does not identify who will marry

Why so as to is not idiomatically correct, why it does not identify who will marry, IMO, it does identify King Henry VIII

Please help clarify,

Thanks in advance
Have a nice day

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Dear zoezhuyan,

How are you, my friend? I'm happy to respond. :-)

I assume you know about the Magoosh GMAT Idiom flashcards.

This is a tricky one. Choice (A) is very good---if (D) didn't exist, I could imagine that (A) could be a right answer. This is a rare case of an official question having an incorrect answer that is so good.

Version (A):
In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled so as to marry Anne Boleyn.
This is 100% grammatically correct. I think the rhetorical emphasis on the subject makes it clear who will do the marrying. Let's say this one is 90% clear.

If we didn't mention the queen, that would be 100% correct:
Version (A1):
In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage annulled so as to marry Anne Boleyn.
Now, that's 100% clear, but poor Queen Catherine of Aragon was ignored.

Version (D):
In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled so that he could marry Anne Boleyn.
This is also 100% clear, absolutely no ambiguity imaginable, and we get to keep the queen. This is win-win.

Choice (A) is not wrong. Choice (A) is very strong, AND it is not as good as Choice (D), which is above all reproach. Once again, it is rare that an official question has this pattern.

Does all this make sense? Have a good day!
Mike :-)

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wonderful explanation Mike
kept it so simple and gmat oriented .
I was reading other explanations and there are so many grammar rules narrated here.
However, as you said both sentences are correct , only reason to give up option A is that
it creates a slight confusion .
thank you :)

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