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In the sequence of nonzero numbers \(t_1\), \(t_2\), \(t_3\), …, \(t_n\), …, \(t_{n+1}=\frac{t_n}{2}\) for all positive integers n. What is the value of \(t_5\)?

(1) \(t_3 = \frac{1}{4}\)

(2) \(t_1 - t_5 = \frac{15}{16}\)
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In the sequence of nonzero numbers t1, t2, t3, …, tn, …, tn+1 = tn / 2 for all positive integers
n. What is the value of t5?
(1) t3 = 1/4
(2) t1 - t5 = 15/16


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Hello, quantum,
this is my attempt to explain why it's D:

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In the sequence of nonzero numbers t1, t2, t3, …, tn, …, tn+1 = tn / 2 for all positive integers
n. What is the value of t5?
(1) t3 = 1/4
(2) t1 - t5 = 15/16


Here we have geometric progression, i.e. series where t2=t1*q, t3=t2*q, …, tn+1=tn*q. In our case, q=0.5. Also note that tn+1=t1*q^n

So, basically, to answer this question, it is sufficient to know the value of any of the tn.

1) Explicitly gives us the value for t3, so it’s sufficient.

2) So, let’s see if we can obtain the value of t1 from this statement, using the formula tn+1=t1*q^n:

15/16=t1-t5=t1-t1*q^4 = t1*(1-q^4) = t1*(1-1/16) = t1*15/16.

So, from here it follows that t1=1 and t5=t1*q^4 = 1*1/16 = 1/16.

Sufficient.

I hope that helped.
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New post 19 Dec 2010, 16:31
Good explanations but I got confused at how you equated tn+1=tn/2? I thought the it was the entire expression that equaled to tn/2? sorry but I am a bit confused. Thanks.
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Good explanations but I got confused at how you equated tn+1=tn/2? I thought the it was the entire expression that equaled to tn/2? sorry but I am a bit confused. Thanks.


In the sequence of nonzero numbers t1, t2, t3, …, tn, …, tn+1 = tn / 2 for all positive integers n. What is the value of t5?

Given: \(t_{n+1}=\frac{t_n}{2}\). So \(t_2=\frac{t_1}{2}\), \(t_3=\frac{t_2}{2}=\frac{t_1}{4}\), \(t_4=\frac{t_3}{2}=\frac{t_1}{8}\), ...

Basically we have geometric progression with common ratio \(\frac{1}{2}\): \(t_1\), \(\frac{t_1}{2}\), \(\frac{t_1}{4}\), \(\frac{t_1}{8}\), ... --> \(t_n=\frac{t_1}{2^{n-1}}\).

Question: \(t_5=\frac{t_1}{2^4}=?\)

(1) \(t_3=\frac{1}{4}\) --> we can get \(t_1\) --> we can get \(t_5\). Sufficient.
(2) \(t_1-t_5=2^4*t_5-t_5=\frac{15}{16}\) --> we can get \(t_5\). Sufficient.

Answer: D.

Generally for arithmetic (or geometric) progression if you know:

- any particular two terms,
- any particular term and common difference (common ratio),
- the sum of the sequence and either any term or common difference (common ratio),

then you will be able to calculate any missing value of given sequence.

Hope it helps.
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New post 23 Dec 2010, 18:42
Thanks for the explanation Bunuel. I can see it now clearly.
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statement(1)

tn+1 = tn/2
t3 = 1/4
t4 =t3/2 = 1/8
t5 = t4/2 = 1/16. Sufficient.

statement (2)
t1 - t5 = 15/16
t1 = t5 + 15/16 = (16t5 + 15) /16
t2 = t1/2 = (16t5 + 15) / 32
t3 = t2/2 = (16t5 + 15) /64
t4 = t3/2 = (16t5 + 15) /128
t5 = t4/2 = (16t5 + 15) /256

256t5 = 16t5 + 15
240t5 = 15
t5 = 15/240 = 5/80 = 1/16
Sufficient.


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Bunuel.
I have a question about the 3rd generalized case. What does 'the formula for nth term' mean? Is it a+(n-1)d? I am guessing not since (a)we already know that as a formula and (b)Along with any particular term, the formula would still leave 2 variables- a and d.
So are we talking about another equation for a term?
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Bunuel.
I have a question about the 3rd generalized case. What does 'the formula for nth term' mean? Is it a+(n-1)d? I am guessing not since (a)we already know that as a formula and (b)Along with any particular term, the formula would still leave 2 variables- a and d.
So are we talking about another equation for a term?
Thanks again


You are right. I phrased that ambiguously. Will edit.
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pls change the format of the question its a bit confusing.

the entire expression seems equaled to tn/2
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I am having trouble understanding how you went from T3 = T2/2 = T1/4

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I am having trouble understanding how you went from T3 = T2/2 = T1/4

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Notice that we are given T(n+1) = T(n)/2

So, substitute n = 2, you will get T(3) = T(2)/2.

Now substitute n =1 , you will get T(2) = T(1)/2

So, we can say T(3) = T(2)/2 = T(1)/4
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OMG I see it now. Thank you. Wow these are so annoying to deal with. Guess I need to get accustomed to it.
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