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I'm stumped on this one too. Not clear at all.
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I'm stumped on this one too. Not clear at all.


Can you please tell me which part(s) of the solution didn't you understand?
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youngkacha wrote:
I'm stumped on this one too. Not clear at all.


Can you please tell me which part(s) of the solution didn't you understand?


I'm lost when you take the absolute value of t and u, yet u is +/- and t isn't.

Why is t = +/- u instead of being +/- t = +/- u?
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If \(\frac{t}{u} = \frac{x}{y}\) and \(\frac{t}{y} = \frac{u}{x}\) and \(t\) , \(u\) , \(x\) , and \(y\) are non-zero integers, which of the following is true?

A. \(\frac{t}{u}=1\)
B. \(\frac{y}{x}=-1\)
C. \(t = u\)
D. \(t = \pm u\)
E. None of the above

A question to Bunuel or someone who actually wrote the test:

From the given equation we get ux=ty (1) and xt=uy (2)
subtracting 2 from 1 this we get x(u-t)= y (t-u) --> this gives us x=-y. This is option B.
So, why is option B wrong?


Multiply both the given equalities, we get t/u*t/y = x/y*u/x--> t^2 =u^2-->
D.
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youngkacha wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
youngkacha wrote:
I'm stumped on this one too. Not clear at all.


Can you please tell me which part(s) of the solution didn't you understand?


I'm lost when you take the absolute value of t and u, yet u is +/- and t isn't.

Why is t = +/- u instead of being +/- t = +/- u?


|t|=|u| means that t=u (which is the same as -t=-u) or t=-u (which is the same as -t=u), so only two cases.
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mourinhogmat1 wrote:
If \(\frac{t}{u} = \frac{x}{y}\) and \(\frac{t}{y} = \frac{u}{x}\) and \(t\) , \(u\) , \(x\) , and \(y\) are non-zero integers, which of the following is true?

A. \(\frac{t}{u}=1\)
B. \(\frac{y}{x}=-1\)
C. \(t = u\)
D. \(t = \pm u\)
E. None of the above

A question to Bunuel or someone who actually wrote the test:

From the given equation we get ux=ty (1) and xt=uy (2)
subtracting 2 from 1 this we get x(u-t)= y (t-u) --> this gives us x=-y. This is option B.
So, why is option B wrong?


This is how I arrived at D:

1 step: we know that t/u = x/y. This could be converted into: t*y = u*x.

2 step: we know that: t/y = u/x.
At the same time: t*y = u*x
From these equations, based on common logic,
we understand that: |t| = |u| and |y| = |x|. For example,
2*3 = 2*3 and 2/3 = 2/3, or -2*3 = 2*-3 and -2/3 = 2/-3
Important to remember about possible negative values

3 step: now lets consider possible answers:
(A) t/u and (C) t =u could be eliminated at once, as they are the same -> impossible in gmat questions of this type
(B) y/x = -1 is possible, but could also be = 1
(D) correct, could be either + or -

As I'm a beginner in gmat, would be greatful if someone can challenge my approach!

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