New OG13 questions.. did very poorly

I did the OG12 and the Quantitative Review 2nd Edition. I logged problems, repeated hard ones and ultimately I feel I've mastered most of the material.

Then I did the delta problems for OG13. They were very hard... and yes it ruined my confidence for a day or two. The DS was OK, a bit hard, but the PS was particularly hard. I also don't believe the way they arrange the problems is correct AT ALL because the last two OG13 problems that are new are very easy (200s or something), whereas the 4 before that are as hard as I've ever seen. (180s-190s).

What the previous poster said is absolutely correct. If you lose confidence right before your test it can be disastrous, and that's probably why they say don't study anything new immediately before. I think the only thing you should be concerned about is confidence...not that you have all this "shadow" material you don't understand.

My opinion is, If the GMAT is a well designed test, then ultimately it needs to gauge you as an individual properly. That means both revealing your weaknesses AND revealing your strengths. If the test gives a 750 test taker a 650 by happening to introduce all this non-representative stuff (kind of like us doing the OG13 problems, which are a mere fraction of the scope) then the test is flawed period. Likewise, if a 650 test taker comes out with a 750 then the test if flawed too -- the job of the test is to find your ability, not screw you. So the way I see it is the testing mechanism works in favor of people like us. People that have covered/mastered the most representative material available for preparation.

I think it also helps to realize that at this moment there is enough material out there to take more than a year to cover. There are half a dozen test prep companies with their own problems. Even forums have their own problems (like this one) and their own guides (like this one). Some people even study off LSAT guides for Critical Reasoning.. you're never really done if that's the way you define "done". So that's why I just define "done" as as much of the official material you can reasonably do in a 3-4 month time period.

This is the best advice that one can offer for GMAT prep... People usually realize this once they come out from their exam center after first Gmat attempt..

hey..can i know from where we can get the delta questions of OG 13???

Hi Everyone,

There are definitely some pretty challenging new problems in OG13! But overall, the new problems fit in pretty well with what was in OG12. Remember that every "new" GMAT problem is just a Frankenstein built out of old GMAT problems (or perhaps I should say "Frankenstein's monster built out of old GMAT problems" for those of you who are picky about your literary references). The new OG13 problems for the most part just mirror the same topics that have always been tested on the GMAT.

I think the main point to remember is that the actual test is computer-adaptive, so any time you pick out a handful of OG problems you'll be lacking that key ingredient of the experience. Getting a low percentage correct on a randomly selected set of OG problems should never be taken as any kind of score indicator.

Don't let the new problems stress you out, but they are good problems so give them a shot and then focus on learning what you can from them. Even after the June 5th introduction of IR, the main Quant and Verbal sections will not be changing at all (otherwise, the GMAT would cease to be a true *standardized* test). So at the end of the day, don't read too much into the "new" problems in OG13.

Good luck!

Mark

Check out this blog post for a nice analysis of the OG13 vs. OG12 differences:

https://www.manhattangmat.com/blog/index ... ial-guide/

i'd like to add that on this forum someone posted PDFs for every DS and PS problem in both GMAT prep1 and GMAT prep2. I wish i saw this when i started.

If you have months left you can try doing all the problems (800 total), or like me, tackle DS on one particular exam (218 problems). There's no mention of sorting, but from my observation definitely the last 20-30 problems are the most difficult whereas the first 50 or so i saw medium, hard, and ridiculously easy problems. I actually think doing 1-100 might be better than doing the last 20-30 since the last 20-30 are probably close to 50-51 scoring level problems. so if you are not going for that, don't do those -- you may not ever see those problems on the test and the skills to do those don't really seem to overlap at all with the typical problems people would see.

this will give you a great gauge of where you are because now you're doing a wide array of problems at all difficulty levels whereas OG13 problems were just a drop in the bucket.

I would like to add that I started with OG12 and its tests were OK and I did them well, but after purchasing OG13 and working on its newly added tests I found that they are really tough! It is obvious that the new tests are more difficult... I hope I would not face them in the real test.

anf I thought I was the only guy finding these new quant questions in OG13 tough..

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