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Shirla: In figure skating competitions that allow amateur and professional skaters to compete against each other, the professionals are bound to have an unfair advantage. After all, most of them became professional only after success on the amateur circuit.

Ron: But that means that it's been a long time since they've had to meet the more rigorous technical standards of the amateur circuit.

Shirla tells that professionals have an unfair advantage. Ron responds by stating that it has been a long time since the professionals have met the more rigorous technical standards of amateur circuit.

Which of the following is most likely a point at issue between Shirla and Ron?

A. Whether there should be figure skating competitions that allow amateur and professional skaters to compete against each other- incorrect, Whether there should be figure skating competitions that allows amateurs and professionals to compete against each other is not an issue

B. Whether the scores of professional skaters competing against amateurs should be subject to adjustment to reflect the special advantages of professionals- Irrelevant, no score adjustment is talked about

C. Whether figure skaters can successfully become professional before success on the amateur circuit- incorrect, the steps to become a professional is not disputed

D. Whether the technical standards for professional figure skating competition are higher than those for amateur figure skating competition- incorrect, ONLY Ron talks about the technical standards of Amateur being more rigorous

E. Whether professional figure skaters have an unfair advantage over amateur figure skaters in competitions in which they compete against each other- Correct, As per Shirla, the professionals have an unfair advantage , but as per Ron, professionals have not met the technical standards of the amateur circuit for a long time

I was down to options D and E and E seems better

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Shirla: In figure skating competitions that allow amateur and professional skaters to compete against each other, the professionals are bound to have an unfair advantage. After all, most of them became professional only after success on the amateur circuit.

Ron: But that means that it's been a long time since they've had to meet the more rigorous technical standards of the amateur circuit.

Which of the following is most likely a point at issue between Shirla and Ron?

A. Whether there should be figure skating competitions that allow amateur and professional skaters to compete against each other

B. Whether the scores of professional skaters competing against amateurs should be subject to adjustment to reflect the special advantages of professionals

C. Whether figure skaters can successfully become professional before success on the amateur circuit

D. Whether the technical standards for professional figure skating competition are higher than those for amateur figure skating competition

E. Whether professional figure skaters have an unfair advantage over amateur figure skaters in competitions in which they compete against each other


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To answer this question, we must identify a point on which Shirla and Ron disagree.

Shirla argues that because professional figure skaters who compete against amateur skaters will already have had success on the amateur circuit, the professionals will have an unfair advantage over the amateurs.

Ron, on the other hand, points out that this means that it has been a long time since the professionals have had to meet the more rigorous technical standards of the amateur circuit.

What that indicates is that Ron is countering Shirla's reason for thinking that professional figure skaters would have an unfair advantage. However, it is not clear whether Ron is suggesting that amateurs now have an advantage or whether professionals and amateurs would be on a relatively equal plane. It is only clear that Ron disagrees with Shirla's claim about professionals having an unfair advantage.

A. Shirla believes that professionals would have an unfair advantage. It therefore seems reasonable to conclude that she would oppose figure skating competitions that allow amateur and professional skaters to compete against one another. Nevertheless, she does not specify this and so we cannot be certain. That said, it is even less clear what Ron would say about such competitions. Note that it is unclear where Ron stands with regard to which group actually holds an advantage, if either.

B. It is unclear whether Shirla would say that the scores of professional skaters competing against amateur skaters must be adjusted to reflect the professionals' advantage. It is possible, after all, that Shirla would instead argue that there should be no such competition at all. Ron, on the other hand, simply disagrees with the claim that professionals have an unfair advantage.

C. Shirla believes that professional figure skaters will have initially competed on the amateur circuit before becoming professional. There is no indication that Ron disagrees with this.

D. Ron believes that the technical standards for professional figure skating competitions are lower, not higher, than those for amateur figure skating. There is no indication that Shirla disagrees with this.

E. Correct. Shirla believes that professional figure skaters would have an unfair advantage in competitions with amateur figure skaters; Ron disagrees with this belief.

The correct answer is E.
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gmatt1476 wrote:
Shirla: In figure skating competitions that allow amateur and professional skaters to compete against each other, the professionals are bound to have an unfair advantage. After all, most of them became professional only after success on the amateur circuit.

Ron: But that means that it's been a long time since they've had to meet the more rigorous technical standards of the amateur circuit.

Which of the following is most likely a point at issue between Shirla and Ron?

A. Whether there should be figure skating competitions that allow amateur and professional skaters to compete against each other

B. Whether the scores of professional skaters competing against amateurs should be subject to adjustment to reflect the special advantages of professionals

C. Whether figure skaters can successfully become professional before success on the amateur circuit

D. Whether the technical standards for professional figure skating competition are higher than those for amateur figure skating competition

E. Whether professional figure skaters have an unfair advantage over amateur figure skaters in competitions in which they compete against each other


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Hi KarishmaB! Can you help me to prove (D) wrong? Thank you! :please:
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gmatt1476 wrote:
Shirla: In figure skating competitions that allow amateur and professional skaters to compete against each other, the professionals are bound to have an unfair advantage. After all, most of them became professional only after success on the amateur circuit.

Ron: But that means that it's been a long time since they've had to meet the more rigorous technical standards of the amateur circuit.

Which of the following is most likely a point at issue between Shirla and Ron?

A. Whether there should be figure skating competitions that allow amateur and professional skaters to compete against each other

B. Whether the scores of professional skaters competing against amateurs should be subject to adjustment to reflect the special advantages of professionals

C. Whether figure skaters can successfully become professional before success on the amateur circuit

D. Whether the technical standards for professional figure skating competition are higher than those for amateur figure skating competition

E. Whether professional figure skaters have an unfair advantage over amateur figure skaters in competitions in which they compete against each other


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Hi KarishmaB! Can you help me to prove (D) wrong? Thank you! :please:


Hey! Perhaps I can help with this. The problem with (D) is that we don't yet know how Shirla will respond to Ron's objection. Shirla might respond by disputing Ron's implicit claim that the technical standards on the amateur circuit are more technical, but it's equally likely at this point that Shirla will respond by saying, "I hadn't thought of that. You're totally right, Ron!" All of this is to say that Shirla hasn't yet been given a chance to take issue with Ron's implicit claim, and there's no way of knowing whether that might happen in the next step. As such, to make (D) work, we would have to assume that Shirla had already anticipated and considered Ron's rebuttal when she/he/they made the original statement, and that's not something this problem type will ever really want us to do.

By contrast, (E) identifies the motivation behind Ron's actual response to Shirla. The but at the beginning of Ron's response evinces an intention to contradict Shirla's claim, and since the heart of Shirla's claim is that professional skaters have an unfair advantage, it's fair to deduce from the but that Ron intends to provide a reason why professional skater's don't necessarily have an unfair advantage. This is confirmed by the other content in Ron's response, which seems to be a reason why amateur skaters might actually be more at the top of their game than later-stage professionals.

I know I'll never be the real KarishmaB, but I hope that helps!
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Re: Shirla: In figure skating competitions that allow amateur and professi [#permalink]
The point at issue between Shirla and Ron is most likely:

E. Whether professional figure skaters have an unfair advantage over amateur figure skaters in competitions in which they compete against each other.

Shirla argues that professionals have an unfair advantage because most of them became professional only after succeeding on the amateur circuit. This implies that their professional status gives them an edge over amateur skaters in competitions.

Ron counters by pointing out that professionals may have been away from the more rigorous technical standards of the amateur circuit for a long time. His statement suggests that the advantage of being a professional may not be as significant as Shirla claims.

Therefore, the primary disagreement between Shirla and Ron revolves around the fairness and advantage that professional figure skaters possess when competing against amateur skaters.
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