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The method used by Bunuel above is the best way to get to the answer. Some time back, I wrote a post detailing the method. Here is the link:

What is the remainder of 2^83 is divided by 9?

IMO,it's 5. Let me know please whether I'm correct!




Please let me know why I'm wrong:
why cant we create a cycle for 2, so at 2^83, units digit would be 8. Then we have 8/9, so since divisor is greater than the number being divided, our answer would be 8? Can you please explain what is wrong with my reasoning?

In the same way, the question 51^25, the cycle of 1 always gives the same answer, that is, one. so 1/13, then answer should be 1?

My concept was that when the divider is greater than the dividend, such as 3/13, then the remainder would be the dividend itself. (3)

Now if we have a negative number, say -3/13, then we can say the remainder will be 13-3= 10, is that correct? Is even half of what I said correct?
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When dividend is smaller than divisor, remainder is dividend (Correct)

Is \(2^{83}\) smaller than 9?

If you use cyclicity, you get that \(2^{83}\) is some huge number which "ends" with an 8. 8 is just the units digit of that number. \(2^{83}\) is NOT 8. It is actually equal to 9671406556917033397649408.
The dividend is not smaller than divisor. In fact, it is much much greater than the divisor.

Would you like to re-think now? Let me know if there are still some doubts.
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Actually, you are using Binomial too.

How do you explain Remainder of\(\frac{(51^{25})}{13}\)= Remainder of\(\frac{(12^{25})}{13}\)?

Binomial leads to this equality!

I don't think I am using Binomial. Maybe you are correct.

However, I would try to prove the above point, not using Binomial. Let me know if I went wrong somewhere.

--> \(51^{25} = 13Q_1 + R_1\)

and \(12^{25} = 13Q_2 + R_2\)

with all the understood notations.

I want to prove that \(R_1\) = \(R_2\)

I will assume they are equal and replace the value of \(R_1\) in the first equation by that of \(R_2\)

Thus, \(51^{25} = 13Q_1 +12^{25} - 13Q_2\)

or \(51^{25}-12^{25} = 13(Q_1-Q_2)\)

Thus, if I could show that \(51^{25}-12^{25}\) is divisible by 13, my assumption would be correct.

Now,\(x^n-a^n\), is always divisible by (x-a), x and a are integers, n is odd.

Thus,\(51^{25}-12^{25}\) is always divisible by (51-12) = 39 --> 13*3. Thus, it is divisible by 13.

In the spirit of a healthy discussion, I would like to point out that you can certainly prove that the two are equal since they ARE equal. It can be done in many ways. The point is that when you see \(51^{25}\), what makes you think of \(12^{25}\)?
You think of it because 51 = 39 + 12. You separate out the part which is divisible by 13 and take control of the rest. Why?

Because \((39 + 12)^{25}\), when divided by 13 will have the same remainder as \(12^{25}\) because every term in this expansion is divisible by 39 except the last term which is \(12^{25}\). You understand this intuitively and that is all binomial is about.



this is what I did, I went down, instead of going up. I mean I did (39+12)^ 25. and obviously 12^25 is going to be an issue when dividing by 13. But is it also ok to go one up? (52-1)^25. (i see that's what Bunuel has done).

But on your blog, Hamza asked the same question for remainder when 2^86/9
and he went one up, to 87. in that case we have 2*(2^3)^29... which means we can make it
2*(9-1)^29, so : -1^29 , which must be * by 2 as well, so that's -2. ..which gives us the wrong answer. Correct answer is:

2^ (84)(4)----- let's make it (2^3)^29----(9-1)^29..... -1^29 which is a -1. multiply by the 4 I ignored so I have -4. For negative numbers make it 9-4, so 5....
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this is what I did, I went down, instead of going up. I mean I did (39+12)^ 25. and obviously 12^25 is going to be an issue when dividing by 13. But is it also ok to go one up? (52-1)^25. (i see that's what Bunuel has done).

But on your blog, Hamza asked the same question for remainder when 2^86/9
and he went one up, to 87. in that case we have 2*(2^3)^29... which means we can make it
2*(9-1)^29, so : -1^29 , which must be * by 2 as well, so that's -2. ..which gives us the wrong answer. Correct answer is:

2^ (84)(4)----- let's make it (2^3)^29----(9-1)^29..... -1^29 which is a -1. multiply by the 4 I ignored so I have -4. For negative numbers make it 9-4, so 5....

It doesn't matter whether you go up or down - as long as you don't change the question.

\(51^{25} = (52 - 1)^{25}\) - fine

But \(2^{86} \neq 2^{87}\)

\(2^{86} = 2^2 * 2^{84}\) - fine
or
\(2^{86} = \frac{2^{87}}{2}\) but this just complicates our question more since the denominator has changed now
or
\(2^{86} = 2^{87 - 1}\) Again, how do we handle such an exponent?
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okay... got your point .... can you please explain when to use the concept of cyclicity and when to use the concept of binomial theoram ?
Why with the cyclicity of 1 this Question gives the remainder 1
:: 51^25 last digit will be 1^ 25 and when 1^ 25 is divided 13 it should give remainder 1 and not 12
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okay... got your point .... can you please explain when to use the concept of cyclicity and when to use the concept of binomial theoram ?
Why with the cyclicity of 1 this Question gives the remainder 1
:: 51^25 last digit will be 1^ 25 and when 1^ 25 is divided 13 it should give remainder 1 and not 12

These are two different concepts:

Cyclicity only gives us the units digit of a number when you raise it to a power. Say, using cyclicity, I can say that \(51^{107}\) will end with a 1. It usually doesn't help us get the remainder when the number is divided by another number. Using cyclicity, we can say that 3^4 ends with 1. But what will be the remainder when 3^4 is divided by 7? We can't say. Will it be 1? Not necessary. Every number that ends with 1 doesn't give a remainder of 1 when divided by 7. 3^4 = 81 which when divided by 7 gives remainder 4. So cyclicity usually has nothing to do with remainders. It is useful for remainders only when we are talking about division by 10. Why? Because whenever you divide a number by 10, the remainder will always be the last digit of the number. Say, 81/10 remainder 1.
145/10 remainder is 5.
237/10 remainder is 7.
and so on...
So we can use cyclicity in this case to just get the last digit and that will be our remainder.

Binomial helps you find the remainder when you divide a number with a power by any other given number.
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I tried to base this on the cyclicity of exponents--is the following valid?

51^25=3^25*17^25. The cyclicity of both 3 and 17 are 4... so this is similar to 3^1*17^1=51.
51/13 leaves a remainder of 12... maybe I just got lucky?
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I tried to base this on the cyclicity of exponents--is the following valid?

51^25=3^25*17^25. The cyclicity of both 3 and 17 are 4... so this is similar to 3^1*17^1=51.
51/13 leaves a remainder of 12... maybe I just got lucky?

Cyclicity of last digit doesn't have anything to do with remainders. It is useful in remainders only when the last digit of the number is useful in finding the remainder e.g. when the divisor is 10.

You get the answer here because the cyclicity of the remainders of powers of 51 is 2. The remainder is 12 for every odd power and 1 for every even power. Hence remainder of 51^25 will be the same as remainder of 51^1.
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Couple comments here:

First this question is not from GMAT Paper tests as quoted in the original post. I have scoured all the GMAT Paper tests and I have never seen this question. It is possible that I have missed it, but the odds are extremely low. I would love to see the original reference.

Second, the GMAT does not expect one to know the binomial theorem and this question is beyond the scope of the GMAT, at least question in the first post. I would love to hear a confirmation from someone else who has seen an official GMAT question like this on the exam. Sometimes I feel these discussions only end up creating unnecessary fear in students.

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E.g. What is the remainder when 10^5 is divided by 13?

From binomial method, we can take (13-3)^5/13
Next, we're left with (-3)^5/13

Two things - 1st, if I go the long route and take patterns then
3^1 / 13 = R3
3^2 / 13 = R4
3^3 / 13 = R1
and the pattern repeats, in 3's.

so, now, (-3)^5, i know the answer is R4.

However, finding the pattern is time-consuming. Can you help me understand how I can use the binomial theorem for the negative base?
(-3)^5 / 13

THANK YOU!!

(-3)^5/13
Since the power is odd, the negative sign remains. Don't worry about it just yet.
-3^5/13

Note that 3^3 = 27 which is 1 more than a multiple of 13.

-27 * 9/13
-(26+1) * 9/13
Remainder is -9/13

So we have a remainder of -9. This means that remainder is actually 4.

For more on negative remainders, see: https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/2014/03 ... -the-gmat/
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I don't get 12 when I plug (51^25)/13 in to a calculator to see what comes out. What am I misunderstanding about the question?
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I don't get 12 when I plug (51^25)/13 in to a calculator to see what comes out. What am I misunderstanding about the question?

There are two different ways of expressing the result of a division:

Say, I tell you the following: Divide 11 by 4. What do you get?

You could answer me with one of the following:

Case 1: You could say, “I get 2.75”

Case 2: You could say, “I get 2 as the quotient and 3 as the remainder.”

Either ways, you are correct. 11/4 = (2 ¾)

When you use the decimal form, you get a .75 which you add to 2 to give you 2.75. This .75 is nothing but the way you express the remainder 3. When you divide 11 by 4, 4 goes into 11 two times and then 3 is left over. When 4 goes into 3, you get 0.75 which is ¾. That is the reason why you can write 11/4 as (2 ¾) in mixed fractions.

The calculator gives you the result of case 1. Anyway, the calculator will give you an approximate value.
This question asks you for the remainder, as in case 2.
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Hi Bunuel, I solved this using the remainder and cyclicity method and got the correct answer. Can you please tell me if this is just a coincidence?

By applying cyclicity of 4: 51^25 ~ 51^1
Therefore, 51/13 ---> Remainder = 12
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Hi Bunuel, I solved this using the remainder and cyclicity method and got the correct answer. Can you please tell me if this is just a coincidence?

By applying cyclicity of 4: 51^25 ~ 51^1
Therefore, 51/13 ---> Remainder = 12

The question is how do you know the cycle? In fact the remainder repeats in blocks of two here:

The remainder of 51^1 divided by 13 is 12;
The remainder of 51^2 divided by 13 is 1;
The remainder of 51^3 divided by 13 is 12;
The remainder of 51^4 divided by 13 is 1;
The remainder of 51^5 divided by 13 is 12;
...
The remainder of 51^odd divided by 13 is 12;
The remainder of 51^even divided by 13 is 1.
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When 51^25 is divided by 13, the remainder obtained is:

A. 12
B. 10
C. 2
D. 1
E. 0

\(51^{25}=(52-1)^{25}\), now if we expand this expression all terms but the last one will have \(52=13*4\) in them, thus will leave no remainder upon division by 13, the last term will be \((-1)^{25}=-1\). Thus the question becomes: what is the remainder upon division -1 by 13? The answer to this question is 12: \(-1=13*(-1)+12\).

Answer: A.


hi

51^25

here the last digit of 51 is 1, and the cyclicity of 1 is 1. So, the unit digit of 51^25 will be 1

thus, 1, when divided by 13 will produce a quotient "0" and will leave a remainder "1", and I am stumped here ... :(

please help me understand the problem ...

thanks in advance ...
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When 51^25 is divided by 13, the remainder obtained is:

A. 12
B. 10
C. 2
D. 1
E. 0

\(51^{25}=(52-1)^{25}\), now if we expand this expression all terms but the last one will have \(52=13*4\) in them, thus will leave no remainder upon division by 13, the last term will be \((-1)^{25}=-1\). Thus the question becomes: what is the remainder upon division -1 by 13? The answer to this question is 12: \(-1=13*(-1)+12\).

Answer: A.


hi

51^25

here the last digit of 51 is 1, and the cyclicity of 1 is 1. So, the unit digit of 51^25 will be 1

thus, 1, when divided by 13 will produce a quotient "0" and will leave a remainder "1", and I am stumped here ... :(

please help me understand the problem ...

thanks in advance ...

You cannot do this way.

For example, 1 divided by 13 gives the remainder of 1 but 21 divided by 13 gives the remainder of 8. There are many different approaches and links to the underlying theory on previous pages of the discussion.
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We need to find When \(51^{25}\) is divided by 13, the remainder obtained is

Now, to solve this problem we will be using the concept of Binomial Theorem

We will try to split 51 into two numbers. One number will be a multiple of 13 and will be very close to 51 and other number will be a very small number.

\(51^{25}\) = \((52 - 1)^{25}\) (52 = 13*4)

Now, when we open this using Binomial Theorem then all terms apart from the last term will be a multiple of 52 => a multiple of 13 => Remainder by 13 will be 0

=> Question is reduced to what is the remainder when the last term ( 25C25 \((-1)^{25} * 52^0\) is divided by 13

=> Remainder when -1 is divided by 13
=> -1 + 13 = 12

So, Answer will be A
Hope it helps!

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Bunuel,

How did you get 12 as remainder when -1 is divided by 13, i didnt quite understand how did you substitute quotient and the remainder in the formula below

-1 = 13(-1) + 12

Bunuel, could u clarify this? Thanks a lot.
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