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naveenq wrote: E.g. What is the remainder when 10^5 is divided by 13?
From binomial method, we can take (133)^5/13 Next, we're left with (3)^5/13
Two things  1st, if I go the long route and take patterns then 3^1 / 13 = R3 3^2 / 13 = R4 3^3 / 13 = R1 and the pattern repeats, in 3's.
so, now, (3)^5, i know the answer is R4.
However, finding the pattern is timeconsuming. Can you help me understand how I can use the binomial theorem for the negative base? (3)^5 / 13
THANK YOU!! (3)^5/13 Since the power is odd, the negative sign remains. Don't worry about it just yet. 3^5/13 Note that 3^3 = 27 which is 1 more than a multiple of 13. 27 * 9/13 (26+1) * 9/13 Remainder is 9/13 So we have a remainder of 9. This means that remainder is actually 4. For more on negative remainders, see: http://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2014/03 ... thegmat/
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VeritasPrepKarishma wrote: LM wrote: When 51^25 is divided by 13, the remainder obtained is:
A. 12 B. 10 C. 2 D. 1 E. 0 The method used by Bunuel above is the best way to get to the answer. Some time back, I wrote a post detailing the method. Here is the link: (Had to delete the veritas link since I have never posted before on GMAT Club)Once you go through it, this question should be very easy for you. I haven't been able to go through all the replies on this post here and I don't consider myself great at math, but wanted to look at an alternative way of doing this question and remaining within the domains of the GMAT topics (I'd think it would be harsh if the people there started checking us on advanced topics like Binomial Theorem). So let's do prime factorization. 51^25 = (3*17)^25 = (3^25)*(17^25) Using the Last Digit of a Power (pg 14 of GMAT Club Math Book for people unaware of this method), powers of 3 have cyclicality of 4, therefore last digit (3^25) = last digit(3^1) 17^25 would basically check cyclicality of the power of 7 (which is 4), i.e. last digit (17^25) = last digit (17^1). We can therefore simply write (3*17)^25 as (3*17) or 51. When you divide 51/13, you get 12 as the remainder. I can't judge if it is as quicker as the method above, but I definitely think it is simpler to understand.



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I don't get 12 when I plug (51^25)/13 in to a calculator to see what comes out. What am I misunderstanding about the question?



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DonnieDrastic wrote: I don't get 12 when I plug (51^25)/13 in to a calculator to see what comes out. What am I misunderstanding about the question? There are two different ways of expressing the result of a division: Say, I tell you the following: Divide 11 by 4. What do you get? You could answer me with one of the following: Case 1: You could say, “I get 2.75” Case 2: You could say, “I get 2 as the quotient and 3 as the remainder.” Either ways, you are correct. 11/4 = (2 ¾) When you use the decimal form, you get a .75 which you add to 2 to give you 2.75. This .75 is nothing but the way you express the remainder 3. When you divide 11 by 4, 4 goes into 11 two times and then 3 is left over. When 4 goes into 3, you get 0.75 which is ¾. That is the reason why you can write 11/4 as (2 ¾) in mixed fractions. The calculator gives you the result of case 1. Anyway, the calculator will give you an approximate value. This question asks you for the remainder, as in case 2.
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omairanw wrote: VeritasPrepKarishma wrote: LM wrote: When 51^25 is divided by 13, the remainder obtained is:
A. 12 B. 10 C. 2 D. 1 E. 0 The method used by Bunuel above is the best way to get to the answer. Some time back, I wrote a post detailing the method. Here is the link: (Had to delete the veritas link since I have never posted before on GMAT Club)Once you go through it, this question should be very easy for you. I haven't been able to go through all the replies on this post here and I don't consider myself great at math, but wanted to look at an alternative way of doing this question and remaining within the domains of the GMAT topics (I'd think it would be harsh if the people there started checking us on advanced topics like Binomial Theorem). So let's do prime factorization. 51^25 = (3*17)^25 = (3^25)*(17^25) Using the Last Digit of a Power (pg 14 of GMAT Club Math Book for people unaware of this method), powers of 3 have cyclicality of 4, therefore last digit (3^25) = last digit(3^1) 17^25 would basically check cyclicality of the power of 7 (which is 4), i.e. last digit (17^25) = last digit (17^1). We can therefore simply write (3*17)^25 as (3*17) or 51. When you divide 51/13, you get 12 as the remainder. I can't judge if it is as quicker as the method above, but I definitely think it is simpler to understand. Cyclicity can help you find the remainder only in case of division by 2, 5 or 10. Check this post to know why: https://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2015/1 ... questions/The last digit will not decide the remainder in every case in case the divisor is other than 2, 5 or 10.
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BunuelHi Bunuel, I solved this using the remainder and cyclicity method and got the correct answer. Can you please tell me if this is just a coincidence? By applying cyclicity of 4: 51^25 ~ 51^1 Therefore, 51/13 > Remainder = 12



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Bunuel wrote: LM wrote: When 51^25 is divided by 13, the remainder obtained is:
A. 12 B. 10 C. 2 D. 1 E. 0 \(51^{25}=(521)^{25}\), now if we expand this expression all terms but the last one will have \(52=13*4\) in them, thus will leave no remainder upon division by 13, the last term will be \((1)^{25}=1\). Thus the question becomes: what is the remainder upon division 1 by 13? The answer to this question is 12: \(1=13*(1)+12\). Answer: A. hi 51^25 here the last digit of 51 is 1, and the cyclicity of 1 is 1. So, the unit digit of 51^25 will be 1 thus, 1, when divided by 13 will produce a quotient "0" and will leave a remainder "1", and I am stumped here ... please help me understand the problem ... thanks in advance ...



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gmatcracker2017 wrote: Bunuel wrote: LM wrote: When 51^25 is divided by 13, the remainder obtained is:
A. 12 B. 10 C. 2 D. 1 E. 0 \(51^{25}=(521)^{25}\), now if we expand this expression all terms but the last one will have \(52=13*4\) in them, thus will leave no remainder upon division by 13, the last term will be \((1)^{25}=1\). Thus the question becomes: what is the remainder upon division 1 by 13? The answer to this question is 12: \(1=13*(1)+12\). Answer: A. hi 51^25 here the last digit of 51 is 1, and the cyclicity of 1 is 1. So, the unit digit of 51^25 will be 1 thus, 1, when divided by 13 will produce a quotient "0" and will leave a remainder "1", and I am stumped here ... please help me understand the problem ... thanks in advance ... You cannot do this way. For example, 1 divided by 13 gives the remainder of 1 but 21 divided by 13 gives the remainder of 8. There are many different approaches and links to the underlying theory on previous 5 pages of the discussion.
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via fermat theorem a^(p1)= 1 mod p where a is an integer and p prime as 51 contains 13 it can be rewritten and simplified 51/13 remainder 12
12^(131) = 1 mod 13 12^25 = 12^(12*2+1)= 12



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Can anyone from you, please tell me the limitation of cyclic rule? So far i was using that rule blindly for all question. But it has not worked for this particular problem.[i]



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Can anyone from you, please tell me the limitation of cyclic rule? So far i was using that rule blindly for all question. But it has not worked for this particular problem.[i] Cyclicity helps you figure out the units digit in every case. Also, it has nothing to do with remainders. In some cases, the units digit helps you figure out the remainder, more specifically in case of division by 2, 5 or 10. https://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2015/1 ... questions/https://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2015/1 ... nspart2/
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LM wrote: When 51^25 is divided by 13, the remainder obtained is:
A. 12 B. 10 C. 2 D. 1 E. 0 Remainder (A * B) = R(A)*R(B) Therefore 51^25/13 = [51*51*51*51....(25 times)] / 13 = [12*12*12.........(25 times)] / 13 (As 51/13 is 12) = [144*144..........(12 times) *12] / 13 ( Grouping two adjacent 12's together so finally one 12 will be left) = [1*1*1.............(12 times) *12] / 13 (144/13 is 1) = 12 / 13 = 12



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VeritasPrepKarishma wrote: LM wrote: When 51^25 is divided by 13, the remainder obtained is:
A. 12 B. 10 C. 2 D. 1 E. 0 The method used by Bunuel above is the best way to get to the answer. Some time back, I wrote a post detailing the method. Here is the link: http://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2011/05 ... ekinyou/Once you go through it, this question should be very easy for you. Mam, why cyclicity method does not work here. I marked answer 1 thinking 1/13 remainder "1"
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disharupani wrote: Hey, I didn't understand:
When 1 is divided by 13 how can the reminder be 12? If I substitute in the equation 1=13q+r, so how can we arrive at r=12? hi I will try to help you okay, think about simple division, when you divide 5 by 2, you get 2 as quotient and 1 as remainder, because 4 is the greatest integer less than 5 now, on the same line of reasoning, when you divide 1 by 13, 13 is the greatest integer less than 1, and thus 12 is the remainder hope this helps and is clear! thanks and cheers!



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QZ wrote: VeritasPrepKarishma wrote: LM wrote: When 51^25 is divided by 13, the remainder obtained is:
A. 12 B. 10 C. 2 D. 1 E. 0 The method used by Bunuel above is the best way to get to the answer. Some time back, I wrote a post detailing the method. Here is the link: http://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2011/05 ... ekinyou/Once you go through it, this question should be very easy for you. Mam, why cyclicity method does not work here. I marked answer 1 thinking 1/13 remainder "1" You are not dividing 1 by 13 here. You are dividing a number that ends in 1 by 13 here. We don't know what that number exactly is. Will every number ending in 1 when divided by 13 give 1 as remainder? Think about it: 11/13, remainder 11 21/13, remainder 8 31/13, remainder 5 and so on... Cyclicity does not help get the remainder in most cases. It does so in very few cases. They are discussed in this post: https://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2015/1 ... questions/https://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2015/1 ... nspart2/
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5125=(52−1)255125=(52−1)25 , now if we expand this expression all terms but the last one will have 52=13∗452=13∗4 in them, thus will leave no remainder upon division by 13, the last term will be (−1)25=−1(−1)25=−1. Thus the question becomes: what is the remainder upon division 1 by 13? The answer to this question is 12: −1=13∗(−1)+12−1=13∗(−1)+12.
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