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# 2 weeks to go - 650 - How to increase quant

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01 Sep 2018, 03:44
First thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this and to answer it!

Here is my case: I've been practicing for about 2 months now (since 5th of July). My exam is in 12 days, and I'm aiming for a 700.
I have reached 650, and I'm looking for a strategy to make the most out of these 2 weeks and increase to 700.

I have been taking a close look at my assessment reports, and this is what it says:
- Score between 40 - 42 in quants (So around 40% - 45%)
- Score between 37 - 39 in verbal (So around 80 - 90%).

As you can see, there is a huge discrepancy between my quant and my verbal scores, and even though I have been working lately with The Economist Tutor, I'm really struggling to increase quant.

I've been trying to focus on what the assessment report spots as my big weaknesses (Geometry, Word Problems, Inequalities and Probabilities) but still. As soon as I finish one area and pass to the other one, I forget everything and here we are again.

So big question is: does anyone have a strategy / resource / online tutor which would help me concentrate and improve my quant score without lowering my verbal one? Anything is welcome and greatly appreciated!

Thank you very much and best of luck to all of you!
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01 Sep 2018, 05:06
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LucaCiampiRuiz wrote:
First thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this and to answer it!

Here is my case: I've been practicing for about 2 months now (since 5th of July). My exam is in 12 days, and I'm aiming for a 700.
I have reached 650, and I'm looking for a strategy to make the most out of these 2 weeks and increase to 700.

I have been taking a close look at my assessment reports, and this is what it says:
- Score between 40 - 42 in quants (So around 40% - 45%)
- Score between 37 - 39 in verbal (So around 80 - 90%).

As you can see, there is a huge discrepancy between my quant and my verbal scores, and even though I have been working lately with The Economist Tutor, I'm really struggling to increase quant.

I've been trying to focus on what the assessment report spots as my big weaknesses (Geometry, Word Problems, Inequalities and Probabilities) but still. As soon as I finish one area and pass to the other one, I forget everything and here we are again.

So big question is: does anyone have a strategy / resource / online tutor which would help me concentrate and improve my quant score without lowering my verbal one? Anything is welcome and greatly appreciated!

Thank you very much and best of luck to all of you!
Hey LucaCiampiRuiz

You can follow quant megathread topics you feel you are weak with. Read the theory, practice 500 lvl questions and keep progressing as you feel confident.

https://gmatclub.com/forum/ultimate-gma ... 44512.html

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01 Sep 2018, 08:38
LucaCiampiRuiz wrote:
First thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this and to answer it!

Here is my case: I've been practicing for about 2 months now (since 5th of July). My exam is in 12 days, and I'm aiming for a 700.
I have reached 650, and I'm looking for a strategy to make the most out of these 2 weeks and increase to 700.

I have been taking a close look at my assessment reports, and this is what it says:
- Score between 40 - 42 in quants (So around 40% - 45%)
- Score between 37 - 39 in verbal (So around 80 - 90%).

As you can see, there is a huge discrepancy between my quant and my verbal scores, and even though I have been working lately with The Economist Tutor, I'm really struggling to increase quant.

I've been trying to focus on what the assessment report spots as my big weaknesses (Geometry, Word Problems, Inequalities and Probabilities) but still. As soon as I finish one area and pass to the other one, I forget everything and here we are again.

So big question is: does anyone have a strategy / resource / online tutor which would help me concentrate and improve my quant score without lowering my verbal one? Anything is welcome and greatly appreciated!

Thank you very much and best of luck to all of you!

Hi LucaCiampiRuiz,

You can try out the Math revolution course as it is phenomenal and covers the entire syllabus really well. Plus it has great reviews on GMATCLUB. I must add that if you are particularly looking to discover and improve on your weak areas in Quant; a subscription to GMATCLUB tests is the best way to do that. They are indeed phenomenal and will not only pinpoint your weak areas but also help you improve on them.

Further taking multiple mocks might help. Apart from the GMATPREP, Manhattan GMAT tests and Veritas Prep Tests in my experience have good verbal and Quant section and will certainly help you point out and improve your weak areas.

Further another advantage of taking many mocks is to build up your stamina. Apart from the GMATPREP tests, taking practise tests of any major GMATPREP company ought to do that.

Lastly I would also encourage you to purchase GMATPREP QP 1 for some great additional practice.

Hope this helps. All the best.
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01 Sep 2018, 09:26
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LucaCiampiRuiz wrote:
First thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this and to answer it!

Here is my case: I've been practicing for about 2 months now (since 5th of July). My exam is in 12 days, and I'm aiming for a 700.
I have reached 650, and I'm looking for a strategy to make the most out of these 2 weeks and increase to 700.

I have been taking a close look at my assessment reports, and this is what it says:
- Score between 40 - 42 in quants (So around 40% - 45%)
- Score between 37 - 39 in verbal (So around 80 - 90%).

As you can see, there is a huge discrepancy between my quant and my verbal scores, and even though I have been working lately with The Economist Tutor, I'm really struggling to increase quant.

I've been trying to focus on what the assessment report spots as my big weaknesses (Geometry, Word Problems, Inequalities and Probabilities) but still. As soon as I finish one area and pass to the other one, I forget everything and here we are again.

So big question is: does anyone have a strategy / resource / online tutor which would help me concentrate and improve my quant score without lowering my verbal one? Anything is welcome and greatly appreciated!

Thank you very much and best of luck to all of you!

Hi
First of all, I would suggest not to try many new things as you have only 12 days for the test.
Revise the Quant theory from the MGMAT guides or from the Ultimate Gmat Quant megathread. Since you are already working with Economist gmat, you can reach out to them. Further, a subscription to Gmatclub tests will help. Try to solve the 500-600 and 600-700 level questions first with an accuracy of about 80%. Your score will certainly improve.
If nothing works, take a Gmatprep test 1 week before the actual Gmat. If you are not within 30 points of your target score you may reschedule your test to maybe a month later.
Hope it helps.
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01 Sep 2018, 09:32
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Since you want to focus more on GMAT Quant, it would be nice if you make a note of the following points.
1) GMAT Quant is a reasoning test NOT a math test. Having said that it would be nice that you have the foundation of math basic concepts.

2) You should develop an understanding of various topics and specially how to approach these questions in less time.

3) Once you have spent enough time laying a foundation & improving your understanding of the various topics then you may do a MGMAT advanced quant book.

4) GMAT OG questions are like gold mine. Try to do sets of 20-30 questions daily from OG under timed conditions. (Kindly note that there is a main OG & a seprate Quant & Verbal OG).

5) You may like to practice more of data sufficiency questions. These questions are specific to GMAT. You may like to refer to the following post for better understanding :-
https://gmatclub.com/forum/data-suffici ... ufficiency

6) Periodically (once a week) take a mock to evaluate your weak areas and keep working on them.

All the best in your prep!
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01 Sep 2018, 11:18
Hi LucaCiampiRuiz,

To start, many Test Takers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores, so since you've studied for just 2 months, it's likely that you just haven to put in enough time yet to have scored higher. By extension, you might need more than 12 days of additional study to consistently score at the 700+ level.

Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) What study materials have you used so far?
2) How many practice CATs have you taken and how have you scored on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)? Have you taken any of the Official GMAC CATs?

Goals:
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
4) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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02 Sep 2018, 01:16
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi LucaCiampiRuiz,

To start, many Test Takers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores, so since you've studied for just 2 months, it's likely that you just haven to put in enough time yet to have scored higher. By extension, you might need more than 12 days of additional study to consistently score at the 700+ level.

Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) What study materials have you used so far?
2) How many practice CATs have you taken and how have you scored on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)? Have you taken any of the Official GMAC CATs?

Goals:
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
4) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

Thanks for taking the time to answer!

Regarding the information you're asking for, here it is:

Studies:
1) So far I have been using the gmat official 2018 guide, the online question bank that goes with it and the economist. I feel like what really helped me what the economist, as it made me think and see things in a completely different way (much more efficient).

2) I've been using the Manhattan Prep CAT exam so far. It was recommended to me by a friend who got a 700 at the beginning of my study period. However, I do not know if it's the most accurate difficulty level of the real GMAT. No official GMAC CAT so far. Here are my scores:
- CAT 1 : Quant 32 ; Verbal 35 - 560
- CAT 2: Quant 39 ; Verbal 32 - 590
- CAT 3: Quant 38 ; Verbal 30 - 570
- CAT 4: Quant 39 ; Verbal 34 - 600
- CAT 5: Quant 41 ; Verbal 37 - 650
- CAT 6: Quant 40 ; Verbal 39 - 650
I feel like what really helped me on these tests was to generate the assessment reports, which I started doing after CAT 3. Before, I was just reviewing my mistakes without doing much more (I know, big mistake and big time loss).

Goals:
1) I am planning to apply before December, so really I would like to get this done as fast as possible so I can really concentrate on building up my application file.

2) Schools I want to apply for are the top European business schools, nothing in the sates. Mainly HEC, LSE / LBS; Bocconi or IE.

Thank you very much!
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10 Sep 2018, 11:59
Hi LucaCiampiRuiz,

I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. The good news is that 650 (with a Q40) is a solid starting point. That being said, it’s unlikely that you will be able to make significant improvement in just 12 days. Since your applications are not due until December, I suggest that you consider taking your exam at a later date. Furthermore, since you have been studying for only a few months and have yet to hit your score goal on your practice exams, it’s clear that you are taking practice tests before you are truly ready. I realize that you have improved since your first exam, but you still need to make some significant quant improvement before you are ready to take the GMAT.

GMAT practice tests best serve two main purposes. The first purpose is to provide diagnostic information. In other words, by taking a practice test, you can get a sense of what types of GMAT questions you’re comfortable answering and arrive at a reasonable estimation of how you would score on the GMAT at that point in time. The second purpose is, naturally, to provide a way to practice taking the GMAT and handling its various challenges, such as time pressure and the varying difficulty of the questions presented.

People often misuse practice tests as primary learning tools. You may have seen posts that go something like the following: A person with a score goal of 740 has been preparing for six weeks, has already taken all six of the official practice tests, and is wondering why her scores have been 600, 590, 570, 610, 600, and 560. In such a case, the person likely has been using practice tests as primary learning tools, meaning that taking practice tests has been much of, or possibly most of, what she has been doing to drive up her score.

Of course, you can benefit from taking one diagnostic practice test early in your preparation. Furthermore, once you’ve done substantial preparation and mastered much of the content tested on the GMAT, when you sit for practice tests, they will actually show, to some degree, lingering weak areas that require further study. I say “to some degree” because although practice tests provide a pretty good approximation of how a person would score on the GMAT at a particular point in time, the sample size of questions on any practice test is rather small (31 quant questions and 36 verbal questions), so practice tests don’t do a very good job of pinpointing specific areas of weakness.

For example, let’s assume that of the 31 quant questions on a given practice test, you encounter one Rate-Time-Distance question and get it wrong. Should you conclude that you need extensive work on Rate-Time-Distance questions? Of course not. Similarly, what if you correctly answered the Rate-Time-Distance question? Are you good to go on those questions? Maybe. But maybe not. In fact, let’s assume that you took six practice tests, saw a total of six Rate-Time-Distance questions, and correctly answered them all. Can you conclude that you’re solid on Rate-Time-Distance questions? Probably not. One thing that makes the GMAT challenging is the vast potential for variation in the questions. There are hundreds -- maybe thousands -- of variations of Rate-Time-Distance questions that can appear on the test. So, correctly answering five or six (or ten) Rate-Time-Distance questions doesn’t really tell you too much. You must take care not to over-infer based on practice tests alone.

When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new quant materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant courses.

how to score a 700+ on the GMAT.

Please reach out with any further questions.

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10 Sep 2018, 13:59
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Hi LucaCiampiRuiz,

My apologies for not responding earlier; you post must have gotten 'buried' and I did not see it until today. Since your Test Date is in just a couple of days, you should limit your studies to general practice and light review (NO CATs and NO 'cramming') - you would be better served by getting some extra rest so that you can go into Test Day calm, clear-headed and ready to work.

As an exercise, you should review your last practice CAT - with the goal of defining WHY you got questions wrong. The more detailed you can be with this analysis, the better:

In the Quant and Verbal sections, how many questions did you get wrong...
1) Because of a silly/little mistake?
2) Because there was some math/verbal that you just could not remember how to do?
3) Because the question was too hard?
4) Because you were low on time and had to guess?
5) How many Verbal questions did you 'narrow down to 2 choices' but still get wrong?

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11 Sep 2018, 02:01
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi LucaCiampiRuiz,

My apologies for not responding earlier; you post must have gotten 'buried' and I did not see it until today. Since your Test Date is in just a couple of days, you should limit your studies to general practice and light review (NO CATs and NO 'cramming') - you would be better served by getting some extra rest so that you can go into Test Day calm, clear-headed and ready to work.

As an exercise, you should review your last practice CAT - with the goal of defining WHY you got questions wrong. The more detailed you can be with this analysis, the better:

In the Quant and Verbal sections, how many questions did you get wrong...
1) Because of a silly/little mistake?
2) Because there was some math/verbal that you just could not remember how to do?
3) Because the question was too hard?
4) Because you were low on time and had to guess?
5) How many Verbal questions did you 'narrow down to 2 choices' but still get wrong?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

Thanks for your answer and for your tips! I ll review this as you said today and keep you posted with the exam.
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19 Sep 2018, 08:31
ScottTargetTestPrep wrote:
Hi LucaCiampiRuiz,

I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. The good news is that 650 (with a Q40) is a solid starting point. That being said, it’s unlikely that you will be able to make significant improvement in just 12 days. Since your applications are not due until December, I suggest that you consider taking your exam at a later date. Furthermore, since you have been studying for only a few months and have yet to hit your score goal on your practice exams, it’s clear that you are taking practice tests before you are truly ready. I realize that you have improved since your first exam, but you still need to make some significant quant improvement before you are ready to take the GMAT.

GMAT practice tests best serve two main purposes. The first purpose is to provide diagnostic information. In other words, by taking a practice test, you can get a sense of what types of GMAT questions you’re comfortable answering and arrive at a reasonable estimation of how you would score on the GMAT at that point in time. The second purpose is, naturally, to provide a way to practice taking the GMAT and handling its various challenges, such as time pressure and the varying difficulty of the questions presented.

People often misuse practice tests as primary learning tools. You may have seen posts that go something like the following: A person with a score goal of 740 has been preparing for six weeks, has already taken all six of the official practice tests, and is wondering why her scores have been 600, 590, 570, 610, 600, and 560. In such a case, the person likely has been using practice tests as primary learning tools, meaning that taking practice tests has been much of, or possibly most of, what she has been doing to drive up her score.

Of course, you can benefit from taking one diagnostic practice test early in your preparation. Furthermore, once you’ve done substantial preparation and mastered much of the content tested on the GMAT, when you sit for practice tests, they will actually show, to some degree, lingering weak areas that require further study. I say “to some degree” because although practice tests provide a pretty good approximation of how a person would score on the GMAT at a particular point in time, the sample size of questions on any practice test is rather small (31 quant questions and 36 verbal questions), so practice tests don’t do a very good job of pinpointing specific areas of weakness.

For example, let’s assume that of the 31 quant questions on a given practice test, you encounter one Rate-Time-Distance question and get it wrong. Should you conclude that you need extensive work on Rate-Time-Distance questions? Of course not. Similarly, what if you correctly answered the Rate-Time-Distance question? Are you good to go on those questions? Maybe. But maybe not. In fact, let’s assume that you took six practice tests, saw a total of six Rate-Time-Distance questions, and correctly answered them all. Can you conclude that you’re solid on Rate-Time-Distance questions? Probably not. One thing that makes the GMAT challenging is the vast potential for variation in the questions. There are hundreds -- maybe thousands -- of variations of Rate-Time-Distance questions that can appear on the test. So, correctly answering five or six (or ten) Rate-Time-Distance questions doesn’t really tell you too much. You must take care not to over-infer based on practice tests alone.

When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new quant materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant courses.

how to score a 700+ on the GMAT.

Please reach out with any further questions.

Let’s do this!!

Hi Scott!

I am so sorry I thought I replied to you but I just realised that the answer has not been posted... I don't know what happened.

I cannot thank you enough for your message. Really, it just helped me realise that I wasn't on the right track. I took the GMAT exam and it was a huge disaster (score 540, lower than my 1st ever practice test). Good news is thanks to your comments, I realised what I did wrong, and I have rebuilt a whole strategy, which I expose in my other post. You can take a look at it if you wish and tell me what you think! Any advice is welcome really.

I have also purchased the 5 days trial of Target Prep, and I have to say your tool is amazing! I just finished chapter 1 and already seeing improvements.

Thank you again!
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