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Re: A Four digit safe code does not contain the digits 1 and 4.. [#permalink]

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As already said in a previous post (out-of-a-box-that-contains-4-black-and-6-white-mice-101375.html), I'm experiencing some problems with probability and combinations. So to understand better these arguments, I need to solve the problem in several ways. Unfortunately approaches 2 and 4 are missing. Could you help me?

1) probability approach: Probability of at least one even digit = Probability of one even digit + Probability of two even digits + Probability of three even digits + Probability of four even digits I have four even digits: 0,2,6,8 and four odd digits: 3,5,7,9 So the probability of even digit is \(1/2\), as well of odd digit.

Your approach is correct (even if I would call it reversal combinatorial approach) but with this number: Digits available are {0,2,3,5,6,7,8,9,0} Total ways are = 8x8x8x8 = \(8^4 = 2^{12}\) Ways using only odd digits = 4x4x4x4 = \(4^4 = 2^8\) Therefore probability = \(\frac{2^{12} - 2^8}{2^{12}} = 1 - \frac{2^8}{2^{12}} = 1 - (1/2)^4 = 15/16\)

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21 Sep 2010, 06:04

oh now i see it, i thought you said none of the digits from 1 to 4, but as you pointed out the solution remains the same.

The "direct combinatorial" approach as you call it will be painful in this case. You will need to calculate each of 1 even, 2 even, 3 even, all even. The terms are themselves probably easy enough to calculate, but simplifying will be a bit tedious to get the same answer
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rraggio wrote:

As already said in a previous post (out-of-a-box-that-contains-4-black-and-6-white-mice-101375.html), I'm experiencing some problems with probability and combinations. So to understand better these arguments, I need to solve the problem in several ways. Unfortunately approaches 2 and 4 are missing. Could you help me?

1) probability approach: Probability of at least one even digit = Probability of one even digit + Probability of two even digits + Probability of three even digits + Probability of four even digits I have four even digits: 0,2,6,8 and four odd digits: 3,5,7,9 So the probability of even digit is \(1/2\), as well of odd digit.

I know you got to the answer, but your approach isnt quite correct.

P1 = Probability of exactly 1 even digit = (1/2)^4 * C(4,1) = 4/16 P2 = Probability of exactly 2 even digits = (1/2)^4 * C(4,2) = 6/16 P3 = Probability of exactly 3 even digits = (1/2)^4 * C(4,3) = 4/16 P4 = Probability of 4 even digits = 1/16 P = P1+P2+P3+P4 = 15/16

You have calculated P1 as prob of at least 1 even digit, P2 as atleast 2 even digits etc. This is incorrect. Its only coincidence that the answer is correct.
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I solved the question thinking 1,2,3 and 4 are not allowed in safecode and got same answer . My ratios were 3*3*3*3/(6*6*6*6). So by coincidence I got same answer
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The digits to be considered are 0,5,6,7,8,9 so the total is 6c4 =15 and having at least one even number is 4c1+4c2+4c3=14 Therefore the probability is 14/15. I know my approach is wrong . Can someone please tell me as to where am i going wrong ?

The digits to be considered are 0,5,6,7,8,9 so the total is 6c4 =15 and having at least one even number is 4c1+4c2+4c3=14 Therefore the probability is 14/15. I know my approach is wrong . Can someone please tell me as to where am i going wrong ?

The question says that "...code does not contain the digits 1 and 4 at all", not "from 1 through 4". Meaning that we can use 2 and 3,
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A four digit safe code does not contain the digits 1 and 4 at all. What is the probability that it has at least one even digit?

a) ¼ b) ½ c) ¾ d) 15/16 e) 1/16

We can use the following equation:

P(at least one even digit) = 1 - P(no even digits)

Since 1 and 4 cannot be used, we have 8 available digits (0, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9), and we see that 4 of those 8 digits are odd (3,5,7,9). Thus, P(no even digits) = 4/8 x 4/8 x 4/8 x 4/8 = (1/2)^4 = 1/16.

Thus, P(at least one even digit) = 1 - 1/16 = 15/16.

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Re: A Four digit safe code does not contain the digits 1 and 4.. [#permalink]

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28 Nov 2017, 19:46

How can all the 4 digits be filled with 8 combination. If it has to be a 4 digit number and 1,4 are not allowed then first digit of 4 digit number can only be filled by 7 numbers ( excepting 1,4, 0) , so shouldn't it be :

7*8*8*8

What am i missing here ?

cabelk wrote:

rraggio wrote:

A four digit safe code

Permutation (_)(_)(_)(_)

Note: A safe code can have 0 as the thousands digit; a 4-digit number cannot.

rraggio wrote:

does not contain the digits 1 and 4 at all.

Bag of 8 choices w/ replacement.

rraggio wrote:

What is the probability that it has at least one even digit?

"At least" means Probability Table. Create and work backwards.

**************************** # of evens: Events 0: 1: 2: 3: 4: ---------------------------- Total = ****************************

Total = Fill in Permutation above = 8P4 = (8)(8)(8)(8)

4 evens: 4 evens pick 1 AND 4 evens pick 1 AND 4 evens pick 1 AND 4 evens pick 1 TIMES the number of ways to arrange EEEE = 4C1 * 4C1 * 4C1 * 4C1 * 4!/4! = 4*4*4*4 * 1

3 evens: 4 evens pick 1 AND 4 evens pick 1 AND 4 evens pick 1 AND 4 odds pick 1 TIMES the number of ways to arrange EEEO = 4C1 * 4C1 * 4C1 * 4C1 * 4!/3!1!= 4*4*4*4 * 4

2 evens: 4 evens pick 1 AND 4 evens pick 1 AND 4 odds pick 1 AND 4 odds pick 1 TIMES the number of ways to arrange EEOO = 4C1 * 4C1 * 4C1 * 4C1 * 4!/2!2! = 4*4*4*4 * 6

1 even: 4 evens pick 1 AND 4 odds pick 1 AND 4 odds pick 1 AND 4 odds pick 1 TIMES the number of ways to arrange EOOO = 4C1 * 4C1 * 4C1 * 4C1 * 4!/1!3! = 4*4*4*4 * 4

0 evens: 4 odds pick 1 AND 4 odds pick 1 AND 4 odds pick 1 AND 4 odds pick 1 TIMES the number of ways to arrange OOOO = 4C1 * 4C1 * 4C1 * 4C1 * 4!/4! = 4*4*4*4 * 1