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My friend just got the call yesterday.

She has a 640 GMAT. So proud of her.

That gives hope to the under 700 crew.



Congrats to your friend. But it definitely is A LOT easier for women to get into top b-schools. A guy, especially a white or asian male, would have virtually no shot at columbia with that GMAT score.
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ChannyLace wrote:
My friend just got the call yesterday.

She has a 640 GMAT. So proud of her.

That gives hope to the under 700 crew.



Congrats to your friend. But it definitely is A LOT easier for women to get into top b-schools. A guy, especially a white or asian male, would have virtually no shot at columbia with that GMAT score.


Do you have any numbers to back up that statement? I can't find it for Columbia, but for Stern, the percentage of women applicants is 35% and the percentage of women in the class is 34%. So unless the yield for women is very different than the yield for men, it seems that the admission probabilities are the same. Here's the reference:

https://www.businessweek.com/bschools/ra ... stern.html
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Arbitrageur wrote:
ChannyLace wrote:
My friend just got the call yesterday.

She has a 640 GMAT. So proud of her.

That gives hope to the under 700 crew.



Congrats to your friend. But it definitely is A LOT easier for women to get into top b-schools. A guy, especially a white or asian male, would have virtually no shot at columbia with that GMAT score.


Do you have any numbers to back up that statement? I can't find it for Columbia, but for Stern, the percentage of women applicants is 35% and the percentage of women in the class is 34%. So unless the yield for women is very different than the yield for men, it seems that the admission probabilities are the same. Here's the reference:

https://www.businessweek.com/bschools/ra ... stern.html



A friend from college works at the admissions office of a top b-school (not gonna disclose where), and he told me that women and non-asian minorities have a much easier time getting in. He did not give me exact numbers, but I take him at his word. This is also supported by all the people I know who applied and looking at their credentials and results, women definitely had an easier time.

Not taking anything away from them. I hope people do not interpret this as somehow being sexist. I'm merely describing what the situation is.
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nothing sexist about it, just supply and demand.
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nothing sexist about it, just supply and demand.


To clarify, I wasn't implying sexism from anyone. But I have looked around for quantifiable verification of this frequent claim, and the most I have been able to find was a statistical analysis on a blog (which I can't find right now), which concluded that there might be a small advantage. I can easily believe that it was a large effect years ago, when the number of female applicants was much smaller, but it's not clear to me that it's still the case now (https://www.topmba.com/articles/applicat ... tions-GMAT), and I'd really like to find out one way or the other.
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cmv wrote:

A friend from college works at the admissions office of a top b-school (not gonna disclose where), and he told me that women and non-asian minorities have a much easier time getting in. He did not give me exact numbers, but I take him at his word. This is also supported by all the people I know who applied and looking at their credentials and results, women definitely had an easier time.

Not taking anything away from them. I hope people do not interpret this as somehow being sexist. I'm merely describing what the situation is.


Yeah, the admissions bias is somewhat true, but not "politically correct" and "publicly" said. Nevertheless, I give kudos to her for her resolve and getting into CBS, given her 640 score!
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Arbitrageur wrote:
cmv wrote:

A friend from college works at the admissions office of a top b-school (not gonna disclose where), and he told me that women and non-asian minorities have a much easier time getting in. He did not give me exact numbers, but I take him at his word. This is also supported by all the people I know who applied and looking at their credentials and results, women definitely had an easier time.

Not taking anything away from them. I hope people do not interpret this as somehow being sexist. I'm merely describing what the situation is.


Yeah, the admissions bias is somewhat true, but not "politically correct" and "publicly" said. Nevertheless, I give kudos to her for her resolve and getting into CBS, given her 640 score!



I only have a pathetic 700 GMAT,which worries me deeply. Oh well, I'll just wait and see what happens.
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I do also get the sense that women have an advantage in admissions, though I do think the gap is closing as more women are applying and being admitted to B-school. As for the stats, even for women, I have mediocre stats. A piss poor GPA and an average GMAT score with low quant. I do think in the end they look at the whole package though. I spent a lot of effort on my essays and I do think that helped. Good luck!
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Originally posted by globalcitizen on 12 Jan 2011, 12:29.
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nothing sexist about it, just supply and demand.

You want to see something really pathetic about female applicants?

Check out: https://mademoisellefaitcentrale.ecp.fr/

The domain name ecp.fr belongs to Ecole Centrale Paris in France, top 3 engineering school. Look at that ridiculous website they have set up to "attract" girls :?

Girls whom I have shown the website were pissed off to be considered dumb fashionistas.
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lawgonebusiness wrote:
nothing sexist about it, just supply and demand.

You want to see something really pathetic about female applicants?

Check out: https://mademoisellefaitcentrale.ecp.fr/

The domain name ecp.fr belongs to Ecole Centrale Paris in France, top 3 engineering school. Look at that ridiculous website they have set up to "attract" girls :?

Girls whom I have shown the website were pissed off to be considered dumb fashionistas.


hey look at the calculators in the background! i'm female -- i wonder what the marketing campaign was.
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Yes you are right, after reading my initial sentence a few times it may not sound right.

"see something really pathetic about top eng. school campaigns for recruiting females" may be more accurate.
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For those that got the call, around what time of day did you hear from them?

Obsess much? :shock: hehe :?
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nothing sexist about it, just supply and demand.


I agree.. from what I've read, you get compared to your peers. This is not really the official policy or anything, but when adcom looks at a thousand white anglo-saxon male finance apps, then I can see being attracted to the higher GPAs and GMATs because you need something to set those people apart from their peers who may have very similar backgrounds/interests, etc..

The underrepresented minorities, people from non-traditional backgrounds, females, LGBT community, etc. may get a leg-up so to speak because their experiences are unique and add to the class experience from a non-finance perspective. At a school like Columbia where finance is king, it makes sense to me that different perspectives are welcomed, even if it means that GMATs that are less than 700 are admitted. And quite honestly, GMAT and GPAs are imperfect measures of how well a student is projected to do in their first year of b-school anyways, so even with a 600+, I doubt that someone would struggle too much unless they just didn't try at all.

Congrats to all the admits! I hope to see you all there this fall!
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Hey everyone, I need some advice! So I emailed an alumni yesterday late morning about his availability for a meeting and he replied back within a minute or two, in lightening speed, saying that he would be happy to meet but is available next week. I replied back and told him my availability but said that I would make myself available at his convenience if my schedule didn't fit his and since then, I have gotten no response. He's the CEO of a medium sized company in NYC and I know he's busy but how long should I wait before I email him again? My interview deadline is next friday. I'm thinking I should follow up on Wednesday morning (2 days later)...does this sound reasonable? I just don't want to be in a situation where I am scrambling to find an interviewer last minute.


Similar thing happened to me actually, maybe even worse. I had several people keep telling me that they won't be available for a while, so I kept going down the list. After 10 days, I finally found someone, and the day before the interview, she asked to find a replacement. Luckily, she worked at Yahoo and found another CBS alum and she interviewed me at our original time. If I were you, I'd do this, start emailing some back up people and try to set up interviews with them. CBS from what I see isn't too hardcore about sticking to that 2 week deadline as long as you explain the situation right away. The alum won't have a bad taste in their mouth if you end up having to cancel the interview because of their own non-responsiveness.
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Sample interview question: "Is there anything else you'd like to add that wasn't reflected in your application?" I feel as though CBS's essays are so open-ended that they really do give you the chance to say what you need to say to get "who you are" on paper.... Curious to know how others responded./would respond...
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