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Did one of the 3 members of a certain team sell at least 2 raffle tickets yesterday? (1) The 3 members sold a total of 6 raffle tickets yesterday. (2) No 2 of the members sold the same number of raffle tickets yesterday. Acc to (1) one should mean only 1 member sold atleast 2 raffle, NOT atleast one member sold atleast 2 raffle. Hence, the two contradictory options should be : 0,0,6 one member sold atleast 2 raffle 2,2,2 more than one member sold atleast 2 raffle.
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Originally posted by saurabhkhatrinitk on 04 Aug 2012, 10:18.
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Did one of the 3 members of a certain team sell at least 2 raffle tickets yesterday?The question basically asks whether there is a member who sold at least 2 tickets (so 2 or more). (1) The 3 members sold a total of 6 raffle tickets yesterday. If each of the 3 members sold less than 2 tickets, then the total # of tickets sold cannot be 6, hence at least one member sold at least 2 tickets. Sufficient. Or: can we split 6 tickets so that ALL 3 members to have sold less than 2 tickets? No: (6,0,0); (5,1,0), (4,1,1); (4,2,0); (3,3,0),(3,2,1), (2,2,2). Sufficient. (2) No 2 of the members sold the same number of raffle tickets yesterday. If one member sold 0 tickets and another sold 1 ticket (the least possible numbers), then the third one must have sold more than 1, so 2 or more. Sufficient. Answer: D. Hope it's clear.
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Bunuel wrote: Did one of the 3 members of a certain team sell at least 2 raffle tickets yesterday?
The question basically asks whether there is a member who sold at least 2 tickets (so 2 or more).
(1) The 3 members sold a total of 6 raffle tickets yesterday. If each of the 3 members sold less than 2 tickets, then the total # of tickets sold cannot be 6, hence at least one member sold at least 2 tickets. Sufficient.
Or: can we split 6 tickets so that ALL 3 members to have sold less than 2 tickets? No: (6,0,0); (5,1,0), (4,1,1); (4,2,0); (3,3,0),(3,2,1), (2,2,2). Sufficient.
(2) No 2 of the members sold the same number of raffle tickets yesterday. If one member sold 0 tickets and another sold 1 ticket (the least possible numbers), then the third one must have sold more than 1, so 2 or more. Sufficient.
Answer: D.
Hope it's clear. If the Q asks "whether there is a member who sold at least 2 tickets (so 2 or more)" then it should have been framed as atleast one NOT one which indicates Exactly one. Hence the doubt. Infact, i would say the Q should use the word Atleast or Exactly to make it clear.



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saurabhkhatrinitk wrote: Bunuel wrote: Did one of the 3 members of a certain team sell at least 2 raffle tickets yesterday?
The question basically asks whether there is a member who sold at least 2 tickets (so 2 or more).
(1) The 3 members sold a total of 6 raffle tickets yesterday. If each of the 3 members sold less than 2 tickets, then the total # of tickets sold cannot be 6, hence at least one member sold at least 2 tickets. Sufficient.
Or: can we split 6 tickets so that ALL 3 members to have sold less than 2 tickets? No: (6,0,0); (5,1,0), (4,1,1); (4,2,0); (3,3,0),(3,2,1), (2,2,2). Sufficient.
(2) No 2 of the members sold the same number of raffle tickets yesterday. If one member sold 0 tickets and another sold 1 ticket (the least possible numbers), then the third one must have sold more than 1, so 2 or more. Sufficient.
Answer: D.
Hope it's clear. If the Q asks "whether there is a member who sold at least 2 tickets (so 2 or more)" then it should have been framed as atleast one NOT one which indicates Exactly one. Hence the doubt. Infact, i would say the Q should use the word Atleast or Exactly to make it clear. Not so (even though I do see why you are confused). Actually it's opposite, if the question meant exactly (only) one, then it would say so.
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The question looks kind of tricky to me, However deep diving I think the bottomline of the question is did any of the 3 members sold more than 1 ticket.
Now total no of tickets sold in 6 and tickets cannot be negative or fractions hence yes statement 1 is true.
Similarly statement 2 is also true if 3 of them sold different number of tickets then they can sell (0,1, 2) tickets .
Thus both the statements are sufficient to prove it correct.
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statement (1): there's a statement called the pigeonhole principle, which basically says the following two things: * if the AVERAGE of a set of integers is an INTEGER n, then at least one element of the set is > n. * if the AVERAGE of a set of integers is a NONINTEGER n, then at least one element of the set is > the next integer above n. this principle is easy to prove: if you assume the contrary, then you get the absurd situation in which every element of a set is below the average of the set. that is of course impossible. specifically, statement (1) is a case of the first part of the principle: the average of the set is 6/3 = 2, so at least one element of the set must be 2 or more. statement (2): there are only two ways not to sell at least 2 tickets: sell 0 tickets, and sell 1 ticket. if everyone sells a different # of tickets, then you can't fit three people into these two categories. therefore, someone must have sold at least 2 tickets. Hence D.
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ram186 wrote: Did one of the 3 members of a certain team sell at least 2 raffle tickets yesterday.
(1) The 3 members sold a total of 6 raffle tickets yesterday
(2) No 2 of the members sold the same number of raffle tickets yesterday (1) 3 members sold a total of 6 raffle tickets  Combinations are 2,2,2, 4,1,1, 5,0,1, and so on. So in each case at least one would've sold more than 2.  Sufficient (2) No 2 of the members sold the same number of raffle tickets yesterday  We don't know how many tickets were sold yesterday but we know no 2 person sold the same no. of tickets. Since they are tickets they must be 3 different non negative integers. The 2 different smallest non negative integers are 0, and 1. Hence the other one has to be either 2 or greater than 2. So either way we can tell one person has sold at least 2 raffle tickets.  Sufficient Hope this explains. Cheers!



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Sure. This is a good alternative solution. But will you really remember this principle on the test day ? In my opinion, it's better to go intuitive about questions. But that's what I think. Everyone's got his/her way of doing things ! anairamitch1804 wrote: statement (1): there's a statement called the pigeonhole principle, which basically says the following two things: * if the AVERAGE of a set of integers is an INTEGER n, then at least one element of the set is > n. * if the AVERAGE of a set of integers is a NONINTEGER n, then at least one element of the set is > the next integer above n. this principle is easy to prove: if you assume the contrary, then you get the absurd situation in which every element of a set is below the average of the set. that is of course impossible.
specifically, statement (1) is a case of the first part of the principle: the average of the set is 6/3 = 2, so at least one element of the set must be 2 or more.
statement (2): there are only two ways not to sell at least 2 tickets: sell 0 tickets, and sell 1 ticket. if everyone sells a different # of tickets, then you can't fit three people into these two categories. therefore, someone must have sold at least 2 tickets.
Hence D.



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I agree with some people who posted their doubts about the questions earlier. I chose option E.
If the question had clearly mentioned "Did atleast one of the 3 members of a certain team sell at least 2 raffle tickets yesterday." then it would've caused much less confusion.
But at the end of the day it's an official question, so we can't argue much. :/




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