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I only retook Gmatprep once each, and I saw at least 7 repeats on #1 and more than 10 on #2

Obviously you have the ability to score between 750 and 780 but if you are getting 780 on a gmatprep 3rd or 4th passthrough, realistically you got a 3-4 question raw score boost which could easily put you back on 750 level.


Then obviously you did not improve your skill level. If you're at the same skill level, then yes, you will see similar questions. But if you improve, you will start to see harder and harder questions.

Each GMATPrep has over 10,000 questions, and if you wipe the .xact and .log files, you'll see very few repeats. You can probably rewrite GMATPrep 20-30 times or more. And, remember, the real GMAT scores easier than GMATPrep. As for repeats, like I said before, seeing a question again doesn't help much, and I saw very few repeats. Plus, I did verbal in 45 minutes instead of 75.

I'm well past 750-770, and into 780+ territory. Now it's just a matter of increasing speed and polishing my verbal skills, namely RC/SC since for CR I get less than 1% wrong.

I think the scores are as follows:

780: 51/45-46
790: 51/47-48
800: 51/49+
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well, I went from 710 gmatprep to 770 gmatprep retake, which is exactly the kind of boost you are aiming for. but hey, you are the man. good luck
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Wow that's quite the jump.

I've never had that kind of a jump. Whenever I had a 20 or more point increase in GMATPrep, it's after I did lots of studying and improved my weak areas. Maybe you have a good memory? :-) My memory is terrible lol.
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I only retook Gmatprep once each, and I saw at least 7 repeats on #1 and more than 10 on #2

Obviously you have the ability to score between 750 and 780 but if you are getting 780 on a gmatprep 3rd or 4th passthrough, realistically you got a 3-4 question raw score boost which could easily put you back on 750 level.


Then obviously you did not improve your skill level. If you're at the same skill level, then yes, you will see similar questions. But if you improve, you will start to see harder and harder questions.

Each GMATPrep has over 10,000 questions, and if you wipe the .xact and .log files, you'll see very few repeats. You can probably rewrite GMATPrep 20-30 times or more. And, remember, the real GMAT scores easier than GMATPrep. As for repeats, like I said before, seeing a question again doesn't help much, and I saw very few repeats. Plus, I did verbal in 45 minutes instead of 75.

I'm well past 750-770, and into 780+ territory. Now it's just a matter of increasing speed and polishing my verbal skills, namely RC/SC since for CR I get less than 1% wrong.

I think the scores are as follows:

780: 51/45-46
790: 51/47-48
800: 51/49+


Can you really pull an 800 with a 51/49 on the real deal?

I was under the impression that you needed a 51/51, no exceptions these days. There's some guy out there who apparently got a 790 with 51/51 even!
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50/51 gives you 790.

You can't get an 800 without a 51Q.

However, I'm pretty sure you can get an 800 with 51/48+.

Think about it:

50/51 = 95 / 99.9

51/48 = 99 / 99.5

And, a Q50 can be attained even while getting 10-12 questions wrong.
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51Q 48V is sometimes 780 (mine) and sometimes 790 (I have seen at least 2 cases). I think that 800 is reserved for Q51 V51. A few months ago, Q50 51V yielded 780. Who knows whether these scores are rounded? I may have had a weak 51Q or a weak 48V. Good luck, fellow Canadian!
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GMATprep has spit out 780 for 51/44 & 51/46.

I think it depends more on how many questions you get wrong.

If you score 51/48+ while getting only 0-1 math questions wrong and 1-2 verbal, you will probably get an 800.

I got a 780 off GMATPrep yesterday with 1 math wrong, 6 verbal.
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GMATprep has spit out 780 for 51/44 & 51/46.

I think it depends more on how many questions you get wrong.

If you score 51/48+ while getting only 0-1 math questions wrong and 1-2 verbal, you will probably get an 800.

I got a 780 off GMATPrep yesterday with 1 math wrong, 6 verbal.


Keep in mind that the difference between a 44 and a 48 V combined with a 51Q is very small. 97th percentile vs. 99 1/2 percentile. Both combinations are well within the top 0.5%. When's the big date?
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GMATprep has spit out 780 for 51/44 & 51/46.

I think it depends more on how many questions you get wrong.

If you score 51/48+ while getting only 0-1 math questions wrong and 1-2 verbal, you will probably get an 800.

I got a 780 off GMATPrep yesterday with 1 math wrong, 6 verbal.


Keep in mind that the difference between a 44 and a 48 V combined with a 51Q is very small. 97th percentile vs. 99 1/2 percentile. Both combinations are well within the top 0.5%. When's the big date?


Ask Pelihu. He got 50/51, 780.

I remember him saying 51/48 should get 800


& How did you get 99.5th? They don't give out decimals! The only one they do tell about is 800, about 20 out of 200,000 (99.99th).
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Wow that's quite the jump.

I've never had that kind of a jump. Whenever I had a 20 or more point increase in GMATPrep, it's after I did lots of studying and improved my weak areas. Maybe you have a good memory? :-) My memory is terrible lol.


wow if you really aren't remembering these old questions but are still getting 780, then you are a coin flip away from 800.

It's official, the quest for 800 is on, right here. should be interesting... 8-)


PS are you the one who shat your pants during the test?
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GMATPrep2, on 3 hours of sleep. Was really tired, brain kept shutting off argh.

780

Q50 (6x, got new impossible beasts I've never seen before WTF. I got the first 20-22 right then the heavy artillery came out and I got slaughtered. I remember one DS question had 6 inequalities in it, each with 3 greater or less than signs, WTF!)

V48 (4x, 2 SC, 1RC, 1CR). The CR I got wrong was ridiculous. Each answer choice was 2 lines long, probably the wordiest CR I've ever seen. Tricky too. Right away I thought I had the answer (turns out I did), but I thought that was too obvious and there must have been a trick to it, so I went over the 4 other ones.... over and over............ Evil bastards. Die GMAC.

Quant done in 75 mins, Verb done in 45 mins, 30 minutes under time. SC's only took me about 20-30 seconds.

So I'm steady at 780. I'll reset gmatprep and redo gmatprep1 tomorrow, going to sleep reaaaaaally well tonight.

On a side note my car ran out of gas, so I have to find a gas can in the morning. How gay.


**** my pants hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i don't know what you're talking about

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But yes, I want a 790/800, :-)
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StartupAddict wrote:
GMATprep has spit out 780 for 51/44 & 51/46.

I think it depends more on how many questions you get wrong.

If you score 51/48+ while getting only 0-1 math questions wrong and 1-2 verbal, you will probably get an 800.

I got a 780 off GMATPrep yesterday with 1 math wrong, 6 verbal.


Keep in mind that the difference between a 44 and a 48 V combined with a 51Q is very small. 97th percentile vs. 99 1/2 percentile. Both combinations are well within the top 0.5%. When's the big date?


Ask Pelihu. He got 50/51, 780.

I remember him saying 51/48 should get 800


& How did you get 99.5th? They don't give out decimals! The only one they do tell about is 800, about 20 out of 200,000 (99.99th).


I have seen 4 51Q 48V; 2 got 780 and 2 got 790. I would like to see how well you would do after a good night's sleep, as you seem o do GMATPrep/ the real exam on only 2-3 hours of sleep!
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What day do you take the test Startup?

I'm going to make this a competition with you now :lol:
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What day do you take the test Startup?

I'm going to make this a competition with you now :lol:

yeah, it will be nice to know the results =) by the way how is your preparation going on? still keep training?
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What day do you take the test Startup?

I'm going to make this a competition with you now :lol:

yeah, it will be nice to know the results =) by the way how is your preparation going on? still keep training?


7 days left. Taken 6 practice CATs with 2 left. Results are promising and I'm still practicing
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eschn3am, I think the only thing you should avoid is stress and nervousness, I know your level of knowledge (from what I've seen here in this forum) and think that if you control your feelings you will get what you want
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Thanks!

Fortunately I don't feel stressed or nervous. I'm mostly worried about being overly confident and rushing through it
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