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15 Jan 2003, 01:21
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I Find this post especially helpful, this was taken from Princeton Review's Board July 2002.
I haven't been on this board for a year or two and have some new perspective regarding GMAT scores as graduation draws near. Admittedly the evidence backing up some of my assertions is anecdotal, but some may find it interesting nonetheless.
1) The GMAT doesn't predict performance very well in an MBA program. I know quite a few people in my program with what are considered "low" scores (590 for instance) that have been on the deans list every semester. Additionally, some of these folks have gone on to bag some of the most sort after positions with top notch consulting firms for instance.
2) High GMATers can typically be elusive. Many of the highest scorers in my class were not what I considered team players. A generalization? Sure. But my experience with ultra high folks was that they wanted to do their own thing. Also by elusive I mean their lack of success in being present during 2nd interview rounds. In general, their interpersonal skills held them back as much in the give and take of a case classroom discussion as in their interviews (a guess since I wasn't in their interviews...)
However, I can think of some notable exceptions to this observation, with some top GMATers scoring awesome jobs.
3) Most of the strong leadership folks at school are only average scorers. High GMATers were not to be found in positions that required alturistic uses of ones precious time in Bschool. Take from this comment what you will. Also, I really don't know why this is. Certainly it could be because 790's are a lot rarer than 680's, but now that I know the individuals personally behind the scores its clear why the "average" folks are leading and the others aren't.
That's all I'll share for now. Rip this apart if you will. Question my school (its an excellent one) if you want. However, please understand I don't have an ax to grind against top scorers. Rather, these are just some observations made after 2 wearying years at Bschool. Bottom line: True success in Bschool (academics, leadership, job) is not defined by a high GMAT.
Best!
I haven't been on this board for a year or two and have some new perspective regarding GMAT scores as graduation draws near. Admittedly the evidence backing up some of my assertions is anecdotal, but some may find it interesting nonetheless.
1) The GMAT doesn't predict performance very well in an MBA program. I know quite a few people in my program with what are considered "low" scores (590 for instance) that have been on the deans list every semester. Additionally, some of these folks have gone on to bag some of the most sort after positions with top notch consulting firms for instance.
2) High GMATers can typically be elusive. Many of the highest scorers in my class were not what I considered team players. A generalization? Sure. But my experience with ultra high folks was that they wanted to do their own thing. Also by elusive I mean their lack of success in being present during 2nd interview rounds. In general, their interpersonal skills held them back as much in the give and take of a case classroom discussion as in their interviews (a guess since I wasn't in their interviews...)
However, I can think of some notable exceptions to this observation, with some top GMATers scoring awesome jobs.
3) Most of the strong leadership folks at school are only average scorers. High GMATers were not to be found in positions that required alturistic uses of ones precious time in Bschool. Take from this comment what you will. Also, I really don't know why this is. Certainly it could be because 790's are a lot rarer than 680's, but now that I know the individuals personally behind the scores its clear why the "average" folks are leading and the others aren't.
That's all I'll share for now. Rip this apart if you will. Question my school (its an excellent one) if you want. However, please understand I don't have an ax to grind against top scorers. Rather, these are just some observations made after 2 wearying years at Bschool. Bottom line: True success in Bschool (academics, leadership, job) is not defined by a high GMAT.
Best!
15 Jan 2003, 13:31
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The comments about the GMAT not predicting academic performance are incorrect. The GMAT is the best thing going in predicting first-year performance in core academic courses. The following passage is from the Graduate Management Admission Council's Web site for people who work at b-schools (as a GMAT-taker and b-school applicant, you should visit https://www.mba.com, though):
Validity
The validity of GMAT scores can be described as the degree to which the scores relate to or predict first-year grades in graduate management programs. Since 1978, GMAC has conducted many studies of the validity of GMAT scores. In all studies, GMAT scores, undergraduate grade point averages, and average grades for the first year of graduate school were obtained.
The most recent validity studies indicate that the correlation between GMAT Verbal, Quantitative, and Analytical Writing Assessment (AWA) scores and first-year graduate management school grades was .41 (a 1.0 indicates perfect accuracy of prediction). The median correlation between undergraduate grade point average (GPA) and first-year graduate management school grades was .26. When GMAT scores were combined with undergraduate GPA, the median correlation was.47.
These results indicate that GMAT scores are generally better than undergraduate GPAs for predicting average grades in the first-year of graduate management school. However, the best predictor is obtained by combining GMAT scores and the undergraduate GPA.
Validity
The validity of GMAT scores can be described as the degree to which the scores relate to or predict first-year grades in graduate management programs. Since 1978, GMAC has conducted many studies of the validity of GMAT scores. In all studies, GMAT scores, undergraduate grade point averages, and average grades for the first year of graduate school were obtained.
The most recent validity studies indicate that the correlation between GMAT Verbal, Quantitative, and Analytical Writing Assessment (AWA) scores and first-year graduate management school grades was .41 (a 1.0 indicates perfect accuracy of prediction). The median correlation between undergraduate grade point average (GPA) and first-year graduate management school grades was .26. When GMAT scores were combined with undergraduate GPA, the median correlation was.47.
These results indicate that GMAT scores are generally better than undergraduate GPAs for predicting average grades in the first-year of graduate management school. However, the best predictor is obtained by combining GMAT scores and the undergraduate GPA.
16 Jan 2003, 20:32
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The comments about the GMAT not predicting academic performance are incorrect. The GMAT is the best thing going in predicting first-year performance in core academic courses. The following passage is from the Graduate Management Admission Council's Web site for people who work at b-schools (as a GMAT-taker and b-school applicant, you should visit https://www.mba.com, though):
Validity
The validity of GMAT scores can be described as the degree to which the scores relate to or predict first-year grades in graduate management programs. Since 1978, GMAC has conducted many studies of the validity of GMAT scores. In all studies, GMAT scores, undergraduate grade point averages, and average grades for the first year of graduate school were obtained.
The most recent validity studies indicate that the correlation between GMAT Verbal, Quantitative, and Analytical Writing Assessment (AWA) scores and first-year graduate management school grades was .41 (a 1.0 indicates perfect accuracy of prediction). The median correlation between undergraduate grade point average (GPA) and first-year graduate management school grades was .26. When GMAT scores were combined with undergraduate GPA, the median correlation was.47.
These results indicate that GMAT scores are generally better than undergraduate GPAs for predicting average grades in the first-year of graduate management school. However, the best predictor is obtained by combining GMAT scores and the undergraduate GPA.
Validity
The validity of GMAT scores can be described as the degree to which the scores relate to or predict first-year grades in graduate management programs. Since 1978, GMAC has conducted many studies of the validity of GMAT scores. In all studies, GMAT scores, undergraduate grade point averages, and average grades for the first year of graduate school were obtained.
The most recent validity studies indicate that the correlation between GMAT Verbal, Quantitative, and Analytical Writing Assessment (AWA) scores and first-year graduate management school grades was .41 (a 1.0 indicates perfect accuracy of prediction). The median correlation between undergraduate grade point average (GPA) and first-year graduate management school grades was .26. When GMAT scores were combined with undergraduate GPA, the median correlation was.47.
These results indicate that GMAT scores are generally better than undergraduate GPAs for predicting average grades in the first-year of graduate management school. However, the best predictor is obtained by combining GMAT scores and the undergraduate GPA.
Thank you very much for Statistics, Jacquio.
One clarification though. Your argument is correct about academic performance, but I think the author was more concerned with one's success as a leader and a good team player. Right now, at the Bschool we have teams for everything, at first they sucked because people sucked or becuase I sucked. Often I have to reschedule things to make meetings work and I often hate it. Right now I am much better and most of the groups are a breeze, but still, I am not a very good team player. I have to admit it. I Often pull everything, object to other's, and often make decisions that don't benefit the group. I have stopped being a self driven person becuase there was just no poing. In fact, what I have noticed is that often the leader of the group is a person who manages to make people work together, not somebody smart or knowledgeable. I am almost sure that people who score higher than 97 percentile are arrogant. There may be 2 exceptions, but mostly people gain arrogance just because society imposses it on him/her. You are welcome to tear my argument apart, but with all my love and appreciation of people wiht High GMAT, they are often a pain to work with.
P.S. Another things is that all who have 99th percentile are wierd, making things even more difficult 8)
