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If n is a positive integer, is the value of b - a at least twice the value of \(3^n - 2^n\)?


(1) \(a= 2^{(n+1)}\) and \(b= 3^{(n+1)}\)

(2) \(n = 3\)
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Question: is \(b-a\geq{2(3^n - 2^n)}\)?

(1) a= 2^(n+1) and b= 3^(n+1). The question becomes: is \(3^{n+1}-2^{n+1}\geq{2*(3^n - 2^n)}\)? --> is \(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\)? --> is \(3^{n}\geq{0}\)? 3^n is always more than zero, so this statement is sufficient.

(2) n = 3. Clearly insufficient.

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If n is a positive integer, is the value of b - a at least twice the value of 3^n - 2^n?

Question: is \(b-a\geq{2(3^n - 2^n)}\)?

(1) a= 2^(n+1) and b= 3^(n+1). The question becomes: is \(3^{n+1}-2^{n+1}\geq{2*(3^n - 2^n)}\)? --> is \(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\)? --> is \(3^{n}\geq{0}\)? 3^n is always more than zero, so this statement is sufficient.

(2) n = 3. Clearly insufficient.

Answer: A.


For statement (1), I understand how you arrived at \(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\) but how does this equation tell you whether b-a is at least twice the value of 3^n-2^n?

For example, if i sub in n=1 into the equation, it is true that b-a is at least twice the value (b-a= 5 and 3^n-2^n = 1 then 1*2). However, if i sub in n=2, the equation no longer is true as b-a then becomes 19 and the right side of the equation then becomes 10, which is not at least twice the value.

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If n is a positive integer, is the value of b - a at least twice the value of 3^n - 2^n?

Question: is \(b-a\geq{2(3^n - 2^n)}\)?

(1) a= 2^(n+1) and b= 3^(n+1). The question becomes: is \(3^{n+1}-2^{n+1}\geq{2*(3^n - 2^n)}\)? --> is \(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\)? --> is \(3^{n}\geq{0}\)? 3^n is always more than zero, so this statement is sufficient.

(2) n = 3. Clearly insufficient.

Answer: A.


For statement (1), I understand how you arrived at \(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\) but how does this equation tell you whether b-a is at least twice the value of 3^n-2^n?

For example, if i sub in n=1 into the equation, it is true that b-a is at least twice the value (b-a= 5 and 3^n-2^n = 1 then 1*2). However, if i sub in n=2, the equation no longer is true as b-a then becomes 19 and the right side of the equation then becomes 10, which is not at least twice the value.

What am i missing here?


For the first statement after some manipulation the question becomes: is \(3^{n}\geq{0}\)? Irrespective of the actual value of n, 3^n will always be greater than zero, thus the answer to the question is YES.
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If n is a positive integer, is the value of b - a at least twice the value of 3^n - 2^n?

(1) a= 2^(n+1) and b= 3^(n+1)
(2) n = 3


The Question asks: b - a > 2*(3^n - 2^n)

The answer should be a definitive yes/no

Statement 1:

a= 2^(n+1) and b= 3^(n+1)

Lets take the smallest possible value of a Positive Integer i.e 1 and put it in for "n"

3^(1+1) - 2^ (1+1) > 2*(3^1 - 2^1)
3^2 - 2^2 > 2* (3 - 2)
9 - 4 > 2 *1
5>2 (a definitive answer)

Lets test another number (just to be on the Safe Side), lets test n=2

3^(2+1) - 2^ (2+1) > 2*(3^2 - 2^2)
3^3 - 2^3 > 2* (9 - 4)
27 - 8 > 2* 5
19> 10 (a definitive answer)

Thus, Sufficient.

Statement 2:

n=3

Let's Put it in the in-equality b - a > 2*(3^n - 2^n)

b - a> 2*(3^3 - 2^3)
b - a> 2*(27 - 8)
b - a> 2*(19)
b - a> 38

If, b=100 and a=10, than definitive answer
If, b= 2 and a= 10, than definitive answer
But since it doesn't provide any value for either "a" or "b"

Thus, Not Sufficient

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Do you think that it's better to approach this problem by plugging in numbers for n (as long as you're sure you can do it fast for cases n=1 and n=2), or to do the problem algebraically (which you know will take ~45-90seconds to crunch)?

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Do you think that it's better to approach this problem by plugging in numbers for n (as long as you're sure you can do it fast for cases n=1 and n=2), or to do the problem algebraically (which you know will take ~45-90seconds to crunch)?

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Can someone please show me the simplification as to how the equation becomes whether 3^n > 0?

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Can someone please show me the simplification as to how the equation becomes whether 3^n > 0?


\(3^{n+1}-2^{n+1}\geq{2*(3^n - 2^n)}\);

\(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\);

Cancel \(-2*2^{n}\): \(3*3^{n}\geq{2*3^n}\);

Subtract 2*3^n from both sides: \(3*3^{n}-2*3^n\geq{0}\);

\(3^{n}\geq{0}\)

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Thanks a lot Bunuel. The explanation couldn't have been more lucid.

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Can someone please show me the simplification as to how the equation becomes whether 3^n > 0?


\(3^{n+1}-2^{n+1}\geq{2*(3^n - 2^n)}\);

\(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\);

Cancel \(-2*2^{n}\): \(3*3^{n}\geq{2*3^n}\);

Subtract 2*3^n from both sides: \(3*3^{n}-2*3^n\geq{0}\);

\(3^{n}\geq{0}\)

Hope it's clear.

Hi Bunuel,
In the end instead of subtracting \(2*3^n\) from both sides, can we cancel \(3^n\) from both sides (as it's always positive) and reach \(3>2\) making the statement sufficient? Is that also a correct approach?
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suhaschan wrote:
Can someone please show me the simplification as to how the equation becomes whether 3^n > 0?


\(3^{n+1}-2^{n+1}\geq{2*(3^n - 2^n)}\);

\(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\);

Cancel \(-2*2^{n}\): \(3*3^{n}\geq{2*3^n}\);

Subtract 2*3^n from both sides: \(3*3^{n}-2*3^n\geq{0}\);

\(3^{n}\geq{0}\)

Hope it's clear.

Hi Bunuel,
In the end instead of subtracting \(2*3^n\) from both sides, can we cancel \(3^n\) from both sides (as it's always positive) and reach \(3>2\) making the statement sufficient? Is that also a correct approach?
Thanks.


Yes, this also would be a correct way of solving.
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Can someone please show me the simplification as to how the equation becomes whether 3^n > 0?


\(3^{n+1}-2^{n+1}\geq{2*(3^n - 2^n)}\);

\(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\);

Cancel \(-2*2^{n}\): \(3*3^{n}\geq{2*3^n}\);

Subtract 2*3^n from both sides: \(3*3^{n}-2*3^n\geq{0}\);

\(3^{n}\geq{0}\)

Hope it's clear.



You could stop at the part I have boldfaced to realize that the statement is sufficient, no? I mean \(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\); clearly shows that it it IS bigger. (Given that n is a positive integer)

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If n is a positive integer, is the value of b - a at least twice the value of 3^n - 2^n?

Question: is \(b-a\geq{2(3^n - 2^n)}\)?

(1) a= 2^(n+1) and b= 3^(n+1). The question becomes: is \(3^{n+1}-2^{n+1}\geq{2*(3^n - 2^n)}\)? --> is \(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\)? --> is \(3^{n}\geq{0}\)? 3^n is always more than zero, so this statement is sufficient.

(2) n = 3. Clearly insufficient.

Answer: A.


For statement (1), I understand how you arrived at \(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\) but how does this equation tell you whether b-a is at least twice the value of 3^n-2^n?

For example, if i sub in n=1 into the equation, it is true that b-a is at least twice the value (b-a= 5 and 3^n-2^n = 1 then 1*2). However, if i sub in n=2, the equation no longer is true as b-a then becomes 19 and the right side of the equation then becomes 10, which is not at least twice the value.

What am i missing here?


How did you get that the right side of the equation is 10?? 3^2 = 9 and 2^2 = 4 which means 5. 5 X 2 = 10. 19 > 10.

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From (1), we have to find whether:

b - a > 2*[3^n - 2^n] ?

Substituting a and b,

3^(n+1) - 2^(n+1) > 2*[3^n - 2^n] ?
3^(n+1) - 2^(n+1) > 2*3^n - 2^(n+1) ?

2^(n+1) gets cancelled on both sides.

3^(n+1) > 2*3^n?
3*3^n > 2*3^n?

3^n gets cancelled on both sides.

3 > 2?

Yes.

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If n is a positive integer, is the value of b - a at least twice the value of 3^n - 2^n?

(1) a= 2^(n+1) and b= 3^(n+1)
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New post 26 Aug 2017, 09:45
It is easier if you take any positive integer value of n.
Statement 1:
Suppose n=1 (least value)
then b-a= 9-4=5 which is 5 times more than 3-2=1
In fact, b-a is actually 3^(n+1) - 2^(n+1) which will always be far greater than 3^n - 2^n as the value of n increases.
sufficient.
Statement 2: there is no value for b-a. Insufficient.

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Bunuel wrote:
If n is a positive integer, is the value of b - a at least twice the value of 3^n - 2^n?

Question: is \(b-a\geq{2(3^n - 2^n)}\)?

(1) a= 2^(n+1) and b= 3^(n+1). The question becomes: is \(3^{n+1}-2^{n+1}\geq{2*(3^n - 2^n)}\)? --> is \(3*3^{n}-2*2^{n}\geq{2*3^n-2*2^{n}\)? --> is \(3^{n}\geq{0}\)? 3^n is always more than zero, so this statement is sufficient.

(2) n = 3. Clearly insufficient.

Answer: A.


Hi Bunuel

3*3^n>=2.3^n

We can divide 3^n on both sides then we will be left with 3>2 right?

So, statement A is sufficient

Please guide me if Im wrong

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