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Hi GMATNinjaTwo GMATNinja KarishmaB AndrewN
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Can you please explain Q.5 in detail? Also what "in part" means in the E option?

I have already gone through all comments but didn't get a thorough explanation of Q.5.

By the way below is my reasoning for Q.5? Please Please check this also
A) We don't know What Du Bois had consistently rejected in the past hence wrong
B) Passage doesn't mention the views of trotter hence we can't conclude from this option. Wrong
C) Passage doesn't mention the long terms goals of Du Bois explicitly hence wrong
D) I marked this correct (Reason: After seeing the discrimination, he suggested that strategy i.e. to proclaim their solidarity with White Americans for the duration of the First World War. )
E) I marked this wrong because I thought advocate means suggest hence option is saying: Strategy was suggested by Du Bois in part, which means some part of the strategy is suggested by Du Bois but that's not the case full strategy is suggested by Du bois hence wrong

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Can you please explain Q.5 in detail? Also what "in part" means in the E option?

I have already gone through all comments but didn't get a thorough explanation of Q.5.

By the way below is my reasoning for Q.5? Please Please check this also
A) We don't know What Du Bois had consistently rejected in the past hence wrong
B) Passage doesn't mention the views of trotter hence we can't conclude from this option. Wrong
C) Passage doesn't mention the long terms goals of Du Bois explicitly hence wrong
D) I marked this correct (Reason: After seeing the discrimination, he suggested that strategy i.e. to proclaim their solidarity with White Americans for the duration of the First World War. )
E) I marked this wrong because I thought advocate means suggest hence option is saying: Strategy was suggested by Du Bois in part, which means some part of the strategy is suggested by Du Bois but that's not the case full strategy is suggested by Du bois hence wrong

Thank You
Question 5 asks about "the strategy that Du Bois's 1918 editorial urged African Americans to adopt during the First World War."

That strategy was to "stop agitating for equality and to proclaim [...] solidarity with White Americans."

Why did Du Bois argue for this strategy? We learn of two reasons in the second paragraph:

    1) "government officials had threatened African American journalists with censorship if they continued to voice grievances."
    2) "Du Bois believed that African Americans’ contributions to past war efforts had brought them some legal and political advances."

Here's (D):
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D. It was advocated by Du Bois in response to his recognition of the discrimination faced by African Americans during the war.
Discrimination is mentioned in the last sentence of the passage, and it actually led Du Bois to reverse his 1918 position. When he learned that African Americans faced discrimination in the military, he went back to a more confrontational approach.

So, Du Bois definitely didn't come up with his 1918 strategy in response to discrimination. This discrimination actually led to the END of the 1918 strategy.

(D) is out for question 5.

Here's (E):
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E. It was advocated by Du Bois in part because of his historical knowledge of gains African Americans had made during past wars.
This fits nicely with the second reason listed above! Du Bois "believed that African Americans’ contributions to past war efforts had brought them some legal and political advances."

The "in part" doesn't mean that it only accounts for part of the strategy. It just means that it's not the only reason that Du Bois had to advocate for the strategy.

The other reason is the first one listed above: "government officials had threatened African American journalists with censorship if they continued to voice grievances." So, the "in part" bit fits with the info in the passage.

(E) is the correct answer to question 5.

I hope that helps!
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Can someone explain Q.2? Option c 2nd part is confusing.
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GMATNinja karishma B Can you please help to clarify what is the problem in option A in
Q2. The passage indicates which of the following about Du Bois's attitude toward Washington ?

A. It underwent a shift during the First World War as Du Bois became more sympathetic with Trotter's views.

B. It underwent a shift in 1903 for reasons other than Du Bois's disagreement with Washington's accommodationist views.

C. It underwent a shift as Du Bois made a long-term commitment to the strategy of accommodation.

D. It remained consistently positive even though Du Bois disagreed with Washington's efforts to control the African American press.

E. It was shaped primarily by Du Bois's appreciation of Washington's pragmatic approach to the advancement of the interests of African Americans.


The question asks about DB 's atitude towards Washington . With POE I could eliminate C, D ,E but stuck between A nd B . I feel option A is very close to option B . Option A states that DB's attitude underwent a shift as DB became sympathetic towards Trotters's views viz. DB agreed to Trotter's point that Washington is trying to silence African Americans. I don't understand how can I eliminate A and confidently go for option B.
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Q2. The passage indicates which of the following about Du Bois's attitude toward Washington ?

A. It underwent a shift during the First World War as Du Bois became more sympathetic with Trotter's views.

B. It underwent a shift in 1903 for reasons other than Du Bois's disagreement with Washington's accommodationist views.

C. It underwent a shift as Du Bois made a long-term commitment to the strategy of accommodation.

D. It remained consistently positive even though Du Bois disagreed with Washington's efforts to control the African American press.

E. It was shaped primarily by Du Bois's appreciation of Washington's pragmatic approach to the advancement of the interests of African Americans.

The question asks about DB 's atitude towards Washington . With POE I could eliminate C, D ,E but stuck between A nd B . I feel option A is very close to option B . Option A states that DB's attitude underwent a shift as DB became sympathetic towards Trotters's views viz. DB agreed to Trotter's point that Washington is trying to silence African Americans. I don't understand how can I eliminate A and confidently go for option B.
There are some major differences between answer choices (A) and (B) for question 2.

Answer choice (A) talks about a shift during WWI, when DuBois wrote his 1918 editorial. (B), on the other hand, talks about a shift in 1903.

We can eliminate (A) because DuBois didn't become more sympathetic to Trotter's views during WWI. DuBois aligned himself with Trotter in 1903 in order to stand up against Booker's censorship. During WWI DuBois actually shifted away from Trotter's point of view to a more accommodationist stance.

(A) is out for question 2.

I hope that helps!
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GMATNinja Thanks for the reply . Now I can understand the difference between Option A and B but still wanted to confirm the part where you have mentioned " During WWI DuBois actually shifted away from Trotter's point of view to a more accommodationist stance" . Let me summarize what I understood on reading the passage .

-> DB often shifted positions between accommodationist and confrontationist views . So in 1903 i.e prior to WW1 he aligned with Trotter 's views (confrontationist ) because trotter had described to him about Washington's efforts to silence Africans etc.
-> Again in 1918 that is when he wrote the editorial he advised to stop agitating for equality and to proclaim their solidarity for WW1. This is accomodationist view (as this view aligns with that of Washington's) .
-> But this accommodationist view did not last long as he learnt about the systematic discrimination experienced by Africans . So in 1918 he aligned with accommodationist and sometime later in the same year he called those Africans back from fight ? Is my understanding correct ? In 1918 he shifted his views twice . So in 1918 i.e during the WW1 even though he shifted away from Trotter's views to accommodationst stance , he could not stick to it .

Please let me know if I have any gap in my understanding . Thanks in advance !
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-> DB often shifted positions between accommodationist and confrontationist views . So in 1903 i.e prior to WW1 he aligned with Trotter 's views (confrontationist ) because trotter had described to him about Washington's efforts to silence Africans etc.
-> Again in 1918 that is when he wrote the editorial he advised to stop agitating for equality and to proclaim their solidarity for WW1. This is accomodationist view (as this view aligns with that of Washington's) .
-> But this accommodationist view did not last long as he learnt about the systematic discrimination experienced by Africans . So in 1918 he aligned with accommodationist and sometime later in the same year he called those Africans back from fight ? Is my understanding correct ? In 1918 he shifted his views twice . So in 1918 i.e during the WW1 even though he shifted away from Trotter's views to accommodationst stance , he could not stick to it .

Please let me know if I have any gap in my understanding . Thanks in advance !
Overall, that's a pretty good summary -- DuBois switched his stance several times.

One note is that he didn't exactly "call those African [Americans] back from the fight." Instead, the passage tells us that he "called on them to 'return fighting' from the war." This means that he wanted soldiers, upon their return at the end of WWI, to engage in the fight against discrimination in the United States.

DuBois didn't have any power to actually bring anyone home -- he just wanted soldiers who were already on their way home to join him in his continued fight against discrimination.

I hope that helps!
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Question 5 asks about "the strategy that Du Bois's 1918 editorial urged African Americans to adopt during the First World War."

That strategy was to "stop agitating for equality and to proclaim [...] solidarity with White Americans."

Why did Du Bois argue for this strategy? We learn of two reasons in the second paragraph:

    "government officials had threatened African American journalists with censorship if they continued to voice grievances."

    "Du Bois believed that African Americans’ contributions to past war efforts had brought them some legal and political advances."

Here's (B):

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B. It represented a compromise between Du Bois's own views and those of Trotter.
A "compromise" is a middle ground between two opposing views. One problem with this is that DuBois didn't have a consistent view -- his views changed with circumstances. So, we can't really say that there were two opposing views to begin with.

Additionally, DuBois's strategy to "stop agitating for equality" definitely did NOT meet Trotter halfway. Trotter was a "confrontationist" who would entirely oppose Du Bois's strategy.

For these reasons, (B) is out for question 5.

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Hi GMATNinjaTwo GMATNinja KarishmaB AndrewN
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Can you please explain Q.5 in detail? Also what "in part" means in the E option?

I have already gone through all comments but didn't get a thorough explanation of Q.5.

By the way below is my reasoning for Q.5? Please Please check this also
A) We don't know What Du Bois had consistently rejected in the past hence wrong
B) Passage doesn't mention the views of trotter hence we can't conclude from this option. Wrong
C) Passage doesn't mention the long terms goals of Du Bois explicitly hence wrong
D) I marked this correct (Reason: After seeing the discrimination, he suggested that strategy i.e. to proclaim their solidarity with White Americans for the duration of the First World War. )
E) I marked this wrong because I thought advocate means suggest hence option is saying: Strategy was suggested by Du Bois in part, which means some part of the strategy is suggested by Du Bois but that's not the case full strategy is suggested by Du bois hence wrong

Thank You
Question 5 asks about "the strategy that Du Bois's 1918 editorial urged African Americans to adopt during the First World War."

That strategy was to "stop agitating for equality and to proclaim [...] solidarity with White Americans."

Why did Du Bois argue for this strategy? We learn of two reasons in the second paragraph:

    1) "government officials had threatened African American journalists with censorship if they continued to voice grievances."
    2) "Du Bois believed that African Americans’ contributions to past war efforts had brought them some legal and political advances."

Here's (D):
Quote:
D. It was advocated by Du Bois in response to his recognition of the discrimination faced by African Americans during the war.
Discrimination is mentioned in the last sentence of the passage, and it actually led Du Bois to reverse his 1918 position. When he learned that African Americans faced discrimination in the military, he went back to a more confrontational approach.

So, Du Bois definitely didn't come up with his 1918 strategy in response to discrimination. This discrimination actually led to the END of the 1918 strategy.

(D) is out for question 5.

Here's (E):
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E. It was advocated by Du Bois in part because of his historical knowledge of gains African Americans had made during past wars.
This fits nicely with the second reason listed above! Du Bois "believed that African Americans’ contributions to past war efforts had brought them some legal and political advances."

The "in part" doesn't mean that it only accounts for part of the strategy. It just means that it's not the only reason that Du Bois had to advocate for the strategy.

The other reason is the first one listed above: "government officials had threatened African American journalists with censorship if they continued to voice grievances." So, the "in part" bit fits with the info in the passage.

(E) is the correct answer to question 5.

I hope that helps!

Great explanation GMATNinja
One question regarding below line, last sentence in the paragraph stated he called on them to “return fighting” from the war. Isn't this response to 1918 strategy as a result of discrimination? So not sure how it led to the end of 1918 strategy? Could you help clarify? Thanks

So, Du Bois definitely didn't come up with his 1918 strategy in response to discrimination. This discrimination actually led to the END of the 1918 strategy.
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One question regarding below line, last sentence in the paragraph stated he called on them to “return fighting” from the war. Isn't this response to 1918 strategy as a result of discrimination? So not sure how it led to the end of 1918 strategy? Could you help clarify? Thanks

So, Du Bois definitely didn't come up with his 1918 strategy in response to discrimination. This discrimination actually led to the END of the 1918 strategy.
Good question! You're right.

But the line you referenced at the end of the last paragraph isn't what we're asked about in Q5. The question refers to the stance Du Bois expressed in his 1918 editorial, namely, "to stop agitating for equality and to proclaim their solidarity with White Americans for the duration of the First World War." So in the editorial, he's advocating solidarity.

In the last paragraph, we get the line "Du Bois’s accommodationism did not last, however." So this appears to be an evolution in his thinking that occurred sometime after the editorial. Put another way, he was an advocate of accommodation in his editorial, but later, after hearing about all the discrimination Black soldier endured in the wary, he changed his position. Because we're asked specifically about his position in the editorial, this change isn't relevant in the question.

All to say: you're right about the sequence of events. They just don't impact the answer to this question.

I hope that clears things up!
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One question regarding below line, last sentence in the paragraph stated he called on them to “return fighting” from the war. Isn't this response to 1918 strategy as a result of discrimination? So not sure how it led to the end of 1918 strategy? Could you help clarify? Thanks

So, Du Bois definitely didn't come up with his 1918 strategy in response to discrimination. This discrimination actually led to the END of the 1918 strategy.
Good question! You're right.

But the line you referenced at the end of the last paragraph isn't what we're asked about in Q5. The question refers to the stance Du Bois expressed in his 1918 editorial, namely, "to stop agitating for equality and to proclaim their solidarity with White Americans for the duration of the First World War." So in the editorial, he's advocating solidarity.

In the last paragraph, we get the line "Du Bois’s accommodationism did not last, however." So this appears to be an evolution in his thinking that occurred sometime after the editorial. Put another way, he was an advocate of accommodation in his editorial, but later, after hearing about all the discrimination Black soldier endured in the wary, he changed his position. Because we're asked specifically about his position in the editorial, this change isn't relevant in the question.

All to say: you're right about the sequence of events. They just don't impact the answer to this question.

I hope that clears things up!

Thanks for your clarification GMATNinja :please:
To clarify my understanding, so first Du Bois advocating solidarity but upon learning discrimination on AA, he changed his position and asked AA to return fighting?

This is a very tough and tricky question indeed.
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One question regarding below line, last sentence in the paragraph stated he called on them to “return fighting” from the war. Isn't this response to 1918 strategy as a result of discrimination? So not sure how it led to the end of 1918 strategy? Could you help clarify? Thanks

So, Du Bois definitely didn't come up with his 1918 strategy in response to discrimination. This discrimination actually led to the END of the 1918 strategy.
Good question! You're right.

But the line you referenced at the end of the last paragraph isn't what we're asked about in Q5. The question refers to the stance Du Bois expressed in his 1918 editorial, namely, "to stop agitating for equality and to proclaim their solidarity with White Americans for the duration of the First World War." So in the editorial, he's advocating solidarity.

In the last paragraph, we get the line "Du Bois’s accommodationism did not last, however." So this appears to be an evolution in his thinking that occurred sometime after the editorial. Put another way, he was an advocate of accommodation in his editorial, but later, after hearing about all the discrimination Black soldier endured in the wary, he changed his position. Because we're asked specifically about his position in the editorial, this change isn't relevant in the question.

All to say: you're right about the sequence of events. They just don't impact the answer to this question.

I hope that clears things up!

Thanks for your clarification [url=https://gmatclub.com:443/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&un=GMATNinja%5D%5Bb%5DGMATNinja%5B/b%5D%5B/url%5D :please:
To clarify my understanding, so first Du Bois advocating solidarity but upon learning discrimination on AA, he changed his position and asked AA to return fighting?

This is a very tough and tricky question indeed.
Yes, that's exactly right! Super tricky, but you've got it now. :)
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