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Studies:
1) How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) Have you used any other study materials beside the ones that you listed?

Goals:
3) What is your overall goal score?
4) When are you planning to apply to Business School and what Schools are you planning to apply to?


EMPOWERgmatRichC,

Answering your questions,
Studies:
1) How many hours do you typically study each week?
On average I practice for 1.5 hours/day (short tests RC-CR-SC) and 1 hour of reading books( both quant and verbal). So it would approximately be 22-24 hours/week (including weekends). During the weekends, I take up longer tests and review the answers.

2) Have you used any other study materials beside the ones that you listed?
So far I have used MGMAT (books - still in progress), Magoosh (videos) and powerscore CR. When it comes to short tests, I used to practice with RC, CR, SC, IR butler. Now, I have started using OG.

Goals:
3) What is your overall goal score?
I aspire to get a score above 700 (Both Q and V above 43).

4) When are you planning to apply to Business School and what Schools are you planning to apply to?
Fall 2022 intake at Rotman, Ivey, Sauder and Schulich.
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Hi Vijaybrooks08,

To start, studying for the GMAT now - far in advance of when you will actually "need" your Score - is a smart choice. That having been said, statistically-speaking, raising a 540 to the point that you can consistently score 700+ will likely require that you commit to at least another 3 months of consistent, guided study - and you'll have to make significant improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Thankfully, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam so you CAN train to score at a higher level. It's also worth noting that there are a variety of different Scaled Score combinations that get you to a 700+, so you do not need to score 43+ in both the Quant and Verbal sections to earn that type of Overall Score.

1) Are you planning to take the At-home GMAT or are you planning to take your GMAT at a Test Facility?
2) Assuming that another 3 months of study are required, how many hours do you think you will be able to consistently study each week?

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Hi Vijaybrooks08,

I’m sorry to hear how things have been going with your GMAT. Since you have been studying for some time now and have yet to break 530, moving forward, consider following a quant and verbal study plan that allows you to learn from the ground up. In other words, follow a study plan that allows you to learn each GMAT quant and verbal topic individually and then practice each topic until you’ve gained mastery. Let me expand on this idea further.

Let’s say, for example, you are learning about Number Properties. First, you should develop as much conceptual knowledge about Number Properties as possible. In other words, your goal will be to completely understand properties of factorials, perfect squares, quadratic patterns, LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, and remainders, to name a few concepts. After carefully reviewing the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions, practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties. When you do dozens of questions of the same type one after the other, you learn just what it takes to get questions of that type correct consistently. If you aren't getting close to 90 percent of questions of a certain type correct, go back and seek to better understand how that type of question works, and then do more questions of that type until you get to around at least 90 percent accuracy in your training. If you get 100 percent of some sets correct, even better. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills.

Follow a similar routine for verbal. For example, let’s say you start by learning about Critical Reasoning. Your first goal is to fully master the individual Critical Reasoning topics: Strengthen the Argument, Weaken the Argument, Resolve the Paradox, etc. As you learn about each Critical Reasoning question type, do focused practice so that you can track your skill in answering each type of question. If, for example, you get a weakening question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize the specific question type? Were you doing too much analysis in your head? Did you skip over a keyword in an answer choice? You must thoroughly analyze your mistakes and seek to turn weaknesses into strengths by focusing on the question types you dread seeing and the questions you take a long time to answer correctly.

When practicing Reading Comprehension, you need to develop a reading strategy that is both efficient and thorough. Reading too fast and not understanding what you have read are equally as harmful as reading too slow and using up too much time. When attacking Reading Comprehension passages, you must have one clear goal in mind: to understand the context of what you are reading. However, you must do so efficiently, so you need to avoid getting bogged down in the details of each paragraph and instead focus on understanding the main point of each paragraph. That being said, do not fall into the trap of thinking that you can just read the intro and the conclusion and thereby comprehend the main idea of a paragraph. As you read a paragraph, consider how the context of the paragraph relates to previous paragraphs, so you can continue developing your overall understanding of the passage. Furthermore, as you practice Reading Comprehension, focus on the exact types of questions with which you struggle: Find the Main Idea, Inference, Author’s Tone, etc. As with Critical Reasoning, analyze your incorrect Reading Comprehension answers to better determine why you tend to get a particular question type wrong, and then improve upon your weaknesses. Keep in mind that GMAT Reading Comprehension passages are not meant to be easy to read. So, to better prepare yourself to analyze such passages, read magazines with similar content and style, such as the New York Times, Scientific American, and Smithsonian.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, it is likely that you will have to work on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not just a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns clearly refer to nouns? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answers were always the ones that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. It may take time for you to see what you have to see. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently to extend your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your Sentence Correction skills improve, you will then want to practice with questions that test you on skills from multiple Sentence Correction topics.

You also may find it helpful to read the following articles about
How to Score a 700+ on the GMAT and The Phases of Preparing for the GMAT.

Feel free to reach out with any further questions. Good luck!
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Hi, Hope you are doing well and safe. Please advise or share thoughts on how I can change my approach.

TLDR: My score has been stagnant at 530 for a month now and I need your help.
What did you do to get out this zone? Kindly share Tips, books or posts here. Thanks :D


A little bit about me,
- I work full-time, but, I make sure that I study for 1.5 - 2 hours/day. I practise with time constraints (3 RCs, 5 SCs, and 5 CRs) and review my answers. I have been using Magoosh (Videos), MGMAT and Powerscore CR (books).
- Started preparing in November 2020 (5 months ago) - 6 month study plan but I realised that I needed more time.
- Planning to write GMAT in June 2021.
- Non-native English speaker. However, I work with US clients on a day to day basis and am fairly good with the language.

- Started taking GMATprep fulltests to get myself accustomed for the actual test (3 hours)

The actual problem,
Preparations doesn't seem to affect my scores,
530 (Q42 V23) (end of feb)
540 (Q36 V27) (early march)
530 (Q38 V25) (mid march)

Errors from my prospective,

- Comfortable with RC (while practising), however, I panic and skip 2 RCs in the test (Averaging at 30%). I plan not to skip RC at any cost next time.
- All SC rules I learnt fly out of the window while taking the exam. Feels more like, I am going with my ear most of the time. (Averaging at 50%)
- Powerscore CR (book), has been quite helpful tbh. However, I still average at 50%.
- Familiar with Quant topics. I plan to start practising them everyday. [ Wanted to improve Verbal first].

Kindly share your thoughts on how I can change my approach to improve this or approach this efficiently (1.5 - 2.5 hours/day)

Thanks and stay awesome. :cool:


You are at approx. 38-40 percentile of both Quant and Verbal. So you need to put effort in both. Split your study hours into two equal parts every day - one for Quant and one for Verbal.

For Quant, identify the topics in which you make mistakes. You can easily do that by evaluating your prep tests thoroughly. If you see errors all across the board, figure out whether you are making mistakes in your basics (quadratics, fraction manipulations, percentages, simultaneous equations etc).
If basics are fine, great! Use a test prep curriculum and run through it completely. Focus on conceptual understanding. After completing a topic, review my posts on those topics from my blog: https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/catego ... er-wisdom/
Then practice questions on it. Do this for all the topics.

Even native English speakers often find Verbal difficult. It depends on whether one is an avid reader. Using your ear in SC is the most trustworthy and efficient approach, but only if you are well read and have spent many years with quality books. Reading thins the line between natives and non natives. Also, RC becomes a lot more intuitive. Some effort put in CR always helps. Read about what exactly each type of CR question wants you to focus on and what it expects you to find (discussed in detail in Veritas curriculum and in many posts on the link above). Powerscore is an extremely popular book for CR but gives a lot of unnecessary details for GMAT CR.
If you need to skip 2 RCs, I think you might be a slow reader. Increasing reading speed without sacrificing comprehension takes time but you do have 3 months in hand. Dedicate at least an hour everyday to reading quality publications (in addition to whatever you read at work and while studying).
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Hi, Hope you are doing well and safe. Please advise or share thoughts on how I can change my approach.

TLDR: My score has been stagnant at 530 for a month now and I need your help.
What did you do to get out this zone? Kindly share Tips, books or posts here. Thanks :D


A little bit about me,
- I work full-time, but, I make sure that I study for 1.5 - 2 hours/day. I practise with time constraints (3 RCs, 5 SCs, and 5 CRs) and review my answers. I have been using Magoosh (Videos), MGMAT and Powerscore CR (books).
- Started preparing in November 2020 (5 months ago) - 6 month study plan but I realised that I needed more time.
- Planning to write GMAT in June 2021.
- Non-native English speaker. However, I work with US clients on a day to day basis and am fairly good with the language.

- Started taking GMATprep fulltests to get myself accustomed for the actual test (3 hours)

The actual problem,
Preparations doesn't seem to affect my scores,
530 (Q42 V23) (end of feb)
540 (Q36 V27) (early march)
530 (Q38 V25) (mid march)

Errors from my prospective,

- Comfortable with RC (while practising), however, I panic and skip 2 RCs in the test (Averaging at 30%). I plan not to skip RC at any cost next time.
- All SC rules I learnt fly out of the window while taking the exam. Feels more like, I am going with my ear most of the time. (Averaging at 50%)
- Powerscore CR (book), has been quite helpful tbh. However, I still average at 50%.
- Familiar with Quant topics. I plan to start practising them everyday. [ Wanted to improve Verbal first].

Kindly share your thoughts on how I can change my approach to improve this or approach this efficiently (1.5 - 2.5 hours/day)

Thanks and stay awesome. :cool:


Hi Vijaybrooks08,

First of all, I suggest you to not take any more mocks in the near future. There are a few conceptual gaps in both Quant and Verbal which you need to address before you practice questions. Let me deal with one topic at a time.

Comfortable with RC (while practising), however, I panic and skip 2 RCs in the test:

Never do this. GMAT is an adaptive test and your score drops significantly if you consistently get questions wrong. Try to solve the RC passage even if you take a little more time. it's ok if you fall short of time for the last 5 questions. Please go through the recording below to understand a few test taking strategies and how GMAT algorithm works.



All SC rules I learnt fly out of the window while taking the exam. Feels more like, I am going with my ear most of the time:

I see that you are approaching SC questions in a wrong way. SC questions test your ability to convey the meaning without any ambiguity. So, you must approach them from meaning stand-point. You might have often come across answer choices which are both grammatically correct and convey a logical meaning but are indeed incorrect. So, you have to first comprehend the meaning of the original sentence, identify errors if any and then eliminate answer choices which are grammatically incorrect or which do not convey the right meaning.



Powerscore CR (book), has been quite helpful tbh. However, I still average at 50%:

I'm not sure how you are solving CR questions right now but if the process is not structured, then it's better to change the approach. Let me know how you are solving it so that I can suggest you a better approach if there's any flaw.

Familiar with Quant topics. I plan to start practising them everyday:

I see that you still have a few conceptual gaps. I suggest you to revisit the concepts of those topics and then learn the right methodology to approach questions before you start practicing.

As you have already spent months of time for GMAT prep, I think there's a change in approach required. I'm not sure how your study strategy, but to suggest you in a better way, I would need a few more details.

  • Your present study strategy (as in do you just learn concepts and practice questions?)
  • your weak areas
  • Your approach of solving questions (mainly for verbal)

Answer to these questions will help me get a better idea and thereby I can suggest you how to proceed further. You can always write back to me here but I personally prefer getting in touch over a call and discuss the same as a call would be a lot more interactive. You can use the below link to get in touch with me.

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