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A frightening storm has been lashing South Padre Island, [#permalink] New post   06 Aug 2012, 23:47
A frightening storm has been lashing South Padre Island, forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding.


We are supposed to find error in the given question.

if I use "lashed" instead of "has been lashing", then also it will be a cause and effect modifier. Now the sentence becomes, A frightening storm lashed South Padre Island, forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding. I feel its correct, but its not correct as per Manhattan standards.

I can give you another example analogous to the above question.
About scored 760 in GMAT, increasing the average score in his class to 720.

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Re: doubt in MGMAT SC problem [#permalink] New post   07 Aug 2012, 02:44
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If we use "lashed", it would mean the storm is already over so no use of postponing the event. has been lashing means the storm is still there so its correct
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Re: doubt in MGMAT SC problem [#permalink] New post   07 Aug 2012, 02:47
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A frightening storm has been lashing South Padre Island, forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding.


We are supposed to find error in the given question.

if I use "lashed" instead of "has been lashing", then also it will be a cause and effect modifier. Now the sentence becomes, A frightening storm lashed South Padre Island, forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding. I feel its correct, but its not correct as per Manhattan standards.

I can give you another example analogous to the above question.
About scored 760 in GMAT, increasing the average score in his class to 720.

Please help.


Please, post the entire problem including choices to help you.
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Re: doubt in MGMAT SC problem [#permalink] New post   07 Aug 2012, 04:03
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siddharthasingh wrote:
A frightening storm has been lashing South Padre Island, forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding.


We are supposed to find error in the given question.

if I use "lashed" instead of "has been lashing", then also it will be a cause and effect modifier. Now the sentence becomes, A frightening storm lashed South Padre Island, forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding. I feel its correct, but its not correct as per Manhattan standards.

I can give you another example analogous to the above question.
About scored 760 in GMAT, increasing the average score in his class to 720.

Please help.


Please, post the entire problem including choices to help you.


Since it is a problem from Manhattan, so there isn't any option.
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Re: doubt in MGMAT SC problem [#permalink] New post   07 Aug 2012, 04:04
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If we use "lashed", it would mean the storm is already over so no use of postponing the event. has been lashing means the storm is still there so its correct

How can you be sure of which meaning to prefer.
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Re: doubt in MGMAT SC problem [#permalink] New post   07 Aug 2012, 09:23
A frightening storm has been lashing South Padre Island,forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding.

Hey guys, I don't see any problems with this sentence.

First, the use of present/continuous perfect as in "has been" is appropriate. It conveys the meaning that the storm was lashing in the past and continues to do so up to the present. It would not make logical sense for Natalie and Todd to postpone the wedding if the storm has ended.

Second, the word forcing is not a verb but a present praticiple/verb-ing. Basically this is a modifier that is modifying the entire clause before the comma. In the context of meaning, the storm Natalie and Todd postpone the wedding.

For more on verb-ings please refer to these excellent e-gmat posts:

1. VERB-ING MODIFIERS PT-1
2. VERB-ING MODIFIERS PT-2
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Re: doubt in MGMAT SC problem [#permalink] New post   07 Aug 2012, 10:45
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A frightening storm has been lashing South Padre Island,forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding.

Hey guys, I don't see any problems with this sentence.

First, the use of present/continuous perfect as in "has been" is appropriate. It conveys the meaning that the storm was lashing in the past and continues to do so up to the present. It would not make logical sense for Natalie and Todd to postpone the wedding if the storm has ended.

Second, the word forcing is not a verb but a present praticiple/verb-ing. Basically this is a modifier that is modifying the entire clause before the comma. In the context of meaning, the storm Natalie and Todd postpone the wedding.

For more on verb-ings please refer to these excellent e-gmat posts:

1. VERB-ING MODIFIERS PT-1
2. VERB-ING MODIFIERS PT-2


Hey man....thanks. That indeed has helped.
But in your explanation, there is a hole.
Can't it be possible that the storm has caused huge destruction at the venue where the wedding was supposed to take place. If yes, then in this case "lashed" seems much better than "has been lashing".

Please correct me if i am wrong.
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Re: doubt in MGMAT SC problem [#permalink] New post   07 Aug 2012, 12:59
Hey Siddhartha, I suppose you're right. However, when I read the sentence, my 'GMAT filters' turn on. The thing is in SC, you will rarely need to infer anything that is not already present in the sentence. Given this, from a GMAT point of view, using simple past would change the meaning of the sentence without any clauses backing up this meaning change (for instance, a clause that states the storm wrecked havoc on the island). Anyways this is at least how I look at it. Also, I don't think you would come across this type of question on the GMAT that hinges solely on this issue.
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Re: doubt in MGMAT SC problem [#permalink] New post   13 Aug 2012, 00:56
siddharthasingh wrote:
A frightening storm has been lashing South Padre Island, forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding.


We are supposed to find error in the given question.

if I use "lashed" instead of "has been lashing", then also it will be a cause and effect modifier. Now the sentence becomes, A frightening storm lashed South Padre Island, forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding. I feel its correct, but its not correct as per Manhattan standards.

I can give you another example analogous to the above question.
About scored 760 in GMAT, increasing the average score in his class to 720.

Please help.


I can only see that "forcing" is modifying "South Padre Island" rather than "frightening storm".
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Re: doubt in MGMAT SC problem [#permalink] New post   13 Aug 2012, 01:21
MacFauz wrote:
siddharthasingh wrote:
A frightening storm has been lashing South Padre Island, forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding.


We are supposed to find error in the given question.

if I use "lashed" instead of "has been lashing", then also it will be a cause and effect modifier. Now the sentence becomes, A frightening storm lashed South Padre Island, forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding. I feel its correct, but its not correct as per Manhattan standards.

I can give you another example analogous to the above question.
About scored 760 in GMAT, increasing the average score in his class to 720.

Please help.


I can only see that "forcing" is modifying "South Padre Island" rather than "frightening storm".


"forcing" must modify the subject of the main clause, that is, frightening storm.
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Re: doubt in MGMAT SC problem [#permalink] New post   14 Aug 2012, 11:09
MacFauz wrote:
siddharthasingh wrote:
A frightening storm has been lashing South Padre Island, forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding.


We are supposed to find error in the given question.

if I use "lashed" instead of "has been lashing", then also it will be a cause and effect modifier. Now the sentence becomes, A frightening storm lashed South Padre Island, forcing Natalie and Todd to postpone their wedding. I feel its correct, but its not correct as per Manhattan standards.

I can give you another example analogous to the above question.
About scored 760 in GMAT, increasing the average score in his class to 720.

Please help.


I can only see that "forcing" is modifying "South Padre Island" rather than "frightening storm".


Cool rule of thumb: -ing verbs are talking about the main subject. I think there was a post about modifiers modifying things far from the noun around here...
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Re: A frightening storm has been lashing South Padre Island, [#permalink] New post   19 Sep 2012, 05:53
I think "has lashed" can be enough to convey the intended meaning.
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