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Curious to see what other people's first reaction to seeing this is.

My first thought was: for (18k)/L to be an integer, then L must be a factor of either 18, or K, or both. I thought stmt 1 was sufficient to determine that L was a factor of K but I guess this is incorrect.

I'm assuming it is always the case that (x^2)/(y^2) will never be sufficient to determine that y is a factor of x.

Stmt 2 tells us that L is a factor of K (because K=2L) therefore we know the L in the denominator will cancel out one factor of L in the numerator. This leaves a 1 in the denominator as well.



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Statement (1) by itself is insufficient. S1 does not guarantee that \(\frac{K}{L}\) is an integer. For example, let's examine 3:

\(\frac{K^2}{L^2} = 3 -\) integer


When \(\frac{K^2}{L^2}\) will give a square number. Can you give a example how can we get a value such as 3, which is not a square number.
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Statement (1) by itself is insufficient. S1 does not guarantee that \(\frac{K}{L}\) is an integer. For example, let's examine 3:

\(\frac{K^2}{L^2} = 3 -\) integer


When \(\frac{K^2}{L^2}\) will give a square number. Can you give a example how can we get a value such as 3, which is not a square number.


Consider K^2 = 3 and L^2 = 1.
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atturhari wrote:
Statement (1) by itself is insufficient. S1 does not guarantee that \(\frac{K}{L}\) is an integer. For example, let's examine 3:

\(\frac{K^2}{L^2} = 3 -\) integer


When \(\frac{K^2}{L^2}\) will give a square number. Can you give a example how can we get a value such as 3, which is not a square number.


Consider K^2 = 3 and L^2 = 1.


Is it possible to get 3 as the squared value? If yes, how do you determine that?
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atturhari wrote:
Statement (1) by itself is insufficient. S1 does not guarantee that \(\frac{K}{L}\) is an integer. For example, let's examine 3:

\(\frac{K^2}{L^2} = 3 -\) integer


When \(\frac{K^2}{L^2}\) will give a square number. Can you give a example how can we get a value such as 3, which is not a square number.


Consider K^2 = 3 and L^2 = 1.


Is it possible to get 3 as the squared value? If yes, how do you determine that?


Yes, if \(K=\sqrt{3}\), then \(K^2=(\sqrt{3})^2=3\).
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what if L=1.4
18*1.4 =/ integer
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what if L=1.4
18*1.4 =/ integer
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If L = 1.4, then from (2) K = 2.8 and \(\frac{18K}{L}=36=integer\).
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If K^2/L^2 is an integer, doesn't this signify that L is a factor of K
I thought about it a lot and I strongly feel that is the case
So, (D) should be the correct solution
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If K^2/L^2 is an integer, doesn't this signify that L is a factor of K
I thought about it a lot and I strongly feel that is the case
So, (D) should be the correct solution


I think your doubt is already answered in the solution above:
If \(\frac{K^2}{L^2} = 3\), then \(\frac{K}{L} = \sqrt{3}\neq integer\)
If \(\frac{K^2}{L^2} = 9\), then \(\frac{K}{L} =|3|= integer\)
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Hi,
Would statement 1 be sufficient if L and K were both integers?
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Would statement 1 be sufficient if L and K were both integers?

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I have edited the question and the solution by adding more details to enhance its clarity. I hope it is now easier to understand.
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation.
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