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Scores 590 in third attempt! Need guidance immediately. [#permalink] New post   19 Feb 2020, 19:47
Hi All,

Gave my third attempt of gmat on 17th feb. Scored an abysmal 590 with q43 v28. The questions especially in quant seemed little different and more challenging and time consuming compared to the official mocks that I gave. I was scoring around 700 in most mocks with q49 most of the times and verbal ranging from v34-37.

Started preparing for third attempt in Nov 2019. Used egmat verbal and gmatclub for quant practice. Focused largely on verbal and took quite some time to go through the entire e gmat course that I had to order it twice to complete fully.

Simultaneously after some time used to give gmatclub tests and improved weak areas on quant such as mixtures, p&c, probability by practicing via OG and gmatclub tests.

For verbal this time I focused on RC and CR a lot and improved little bit on rc in the exam though still not good(38 to 57 percentile from previous attempt) but CR was pathetic (scored only 15 percentile).
I think my guesses also went wrong.

In october 2019 started giving mock cat's. Gave experts global and official mocks with 9 mocks in expert global and 4 of gmat prep. Was scoring 680-700 in most mocks with one 760 in experts global and just 2 days before gmat scored 700 in gmat exam prep. Tests were all done in new format with verbal quant ir and awa as the order.

Chose verbal section on gmat first.
It seemed little challenging with RC coming in initially. There were CR questions that seemed difficult however sc was manageable( scored 79 from 81 percentile compared to last time). Coming to quant section, I solved the first two questions confidently but thought took more time. But gradually questions started becoming challenging and time consuming. Some of them I couldn't decipher and had to guess. There weren't any freebies and most of them seemed lengthy. Had to guess randomly after a while on few questions. The third quarter went really bad(14% accuracy). Time management also went for a toss i suppose since took around 3 mins in first quarter of quant. But in my mind I thought I had probably screwed up and was confirmed when the score popped up. IR though was a pleasant surprise since i hardly scored 6 in any of the mocks.

Basically i need to apply in September and my target score is 700+. I think the wise strategy would be to give it another shot again quickly though i am really disappointed and tired despite scoring decent in mocks. Please advice/suggest/guide as to what to do in order to achieve my score and how to plan accordingly.

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Scores 590 in third attempt! Need guidance immediately. [#permalink] New post   20 Feb 2020, 12:11
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kreel11 - thank you for being a student. I am sorry that you could not get to your target score despite having taken the test thrice. We definitely want to understand the cause before we create an improvement plan. Here is the most important question that we need to answer:

What are your current quant and verbal abilities?
You mentioned that you were doing well on mocks (700+ scores). You also mentioned that you have completed the e-GMAT course. Yet you underperformed in both Quant and Verbal. Since you have completed the e-GMAT course, we can look at your stats, and get a real assessment of what your current abilities are? Basically, we want to figure out whether you had a bad day or whether the test score represents your true abilities.

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Once we have a true assessment of your current abilities, we can then help create a milestone-driven study plan to help you improve.

Overall, I understand that you may be extremely stressed. Just stay focussed.. may be take a small break and then come back with determination to ace the GMAT. Here are a few folks who have been in your shoes and have done the same:

Manika: Improved from V28 to V40. She just got done with her interview with ISB.



Krishna Kumar: Improved from V24 to V37. He received three full fellowships.



Overall, don't lose hope. We will help you get there.

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Scores 590 in third attempt! Need guidance immediately. [#permalink] New post   20 Feb 2020, 19:50
egmat wrote:
kreel11 - thank you for being a student. I am sorry that you could not get to your target score despite having taken the test thrice. We definitely want to understand the cause before we create an improvement plan. Here is the most important question that we need to answer:

What are your current quant and verbal abilities?
You mentioned that you were doing well on mocks (700+ scores). You also mentioned that you have completed the e-GMAT course. Yet you underperformed in both Quant and Verbal. Since you have completed the e-GMAT course, we can look at your stats, and get a real assessment of what your current abilities are? Basically, we want to figure out whether you had a bad day or whether the test score represents your true abilities.

Create an improvement plan?


Once we have a true assessment of your current abilities, we can then help create a milestone-driven study plan to help you improve.

Overall, I understand that you may be extremely stressed. Just stay focussed.. may be take a small break and then come back with determination to ace the GMAT. Here are a few folks who have been in your shoes and have done the same:

Manika: Improved from V28 to V40. She just got done with her interview with ISB.



Krishna Kumar: Improved from V24 to V37. He received three full fellowships.



Overall, don't lose hope. We will help you get there.

-Rajat


Hi Rajat,

Thanks for your encouraging words. I have attached my scholaranium statistics to the post and I think you can also access the same via my email id. If you want i can send my esr as well.
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Re: Scores 590 in third attempt! Need guidance immediately. [#permalink] New post   21 Feb 2020, 08:01
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kreel11 - Thank you for posting the data. One thing that I can say right off the bat is that your ability is a lot higher than a V28. I am saying this based on the ability scores I see in Scholaranium. Now, does that automatically translate to you having a bad day .. probably .. but I need more data to be 100% certain. here are the possible scenarios that I would investigate:

1. Nearing your test date, you did not practice a lot on the e-GMAT platform. As a result, these ability numbers were not representative of your ability on the test day. Note, ability
2. You did not apply the e-GMAT methods on the test day. This may sound crazy but trust me many students do this.
3. You tried a new timing strategy on the test day, which again impacted how you approached questions.
4. You truly had a bad day - the questions on test day were from topics that were weak in. Note, given your ability scores, this is a highly unlikely scenario (less than 0.1% probability in my experience)

The actual answer could be a combination of the above...

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1. Your overall ability is much better than V28. We can help you get to a V35 in about 10-12 days.
2. We can pinpoint the exact cause if you share your ESR and your e-GMAT id.

Send those over in a PM/email (refer to this thread) and I would be happy to recommend a path forward.

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Re: Scores 590 in third attempt! Need guidance immediately. [#permalink] New post   21 Feb 2020, 09:19
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kreel11 - Thank you for posting the data. One thing that I can say right off the bat is that your ability is a lot higher than a V28. I am saying this based on the ability scores I see in Scholaranium. Now, does that automatically translate to you having a bad day .. probably .. but I need more data to be 100% certain. here are the possible scenarios that I would investigate:

1. Nearing your test date, you did not practice a lot on the e-GMAT platform. As a result, these ability numbers were not representative of your ability on the test day. Note, ability
2. You did not apply the e-GMAT methods on the test day. This may sound crazy but trust me many students do this.
3. You tried a new timing strategy on the test day, which again impacted how you approached questions.
4. You truly had a bad day - the questions on test day were from topics that were weak in. Note, given your ability scores, this is a highly unlikely scenario (less than 0.1% probability in my experience)

The actual answer could be a combination of the above...

The good news


1. Your overall ability is much better than V28. We can help you get to a V35 in about 10-12 days.
2. We can pinpoint the exact cause if you share your ESR and your e-GMAT id.

Send those over in a PM/email (refer to this thread) and I would be happy to recommend a path forward.

-Rajat


Thanks Rajat. I have already mailed my esr with other details on the egmat support email Id. My username is Rahulzlpr.

Now as per your comments I will.honestly tell you when it comes to quant I did not leave out any topic and this time around focused on my weak areas such as p&c mixtures and probability. But I dont know how the questions somewhat felt lengthy and I was just not able to feel.confident while attempting. Also i could not refer the timing blocks much that I had made on the initial pages for both quant and verbal though felt a little comfortable compared to quant this given that my quant is much stronger than verbal.

I did not take any extension of egmat after december 1 when my second extension expired since I thought I have the notes made so I could refer those and I wasn't able to select a test date close to that time period due to other commitments. So it's like I did not revise the course slides once I had completed it the first time but based on my notes I tried to mimic the strategies to the best I could.

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Re: Scores 590 in third attempt! Need guidance immediately. [#permalink] New post   22 Feb 2020, 05:54
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@kreel - thanks for this information. Give me till midday today to get back to you with recommendations and the plan forward.

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Re: Scores 590 in third attempt! Need guidance immediately. [#permalink] New post   22 Feb 2020, 13:29
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Hi kreel11,

I’m sorry to hear how things went with your GMAT.

Assuming that you took your official practice exams under realistic testing conditions, the results show that, on a good day, you are capable of scoring higher than 590. Thus, it’s quite possible that nerves, stress, tiredness, or a combination of all three negatively affected your test-day performance. However, it’s also possible that you have some lingering weaknesses that were exposed on test day. Although I’m unsure of how you prepared, it’s possible that, in your preparation, particularly in verbal, you did not really learn to do what you have to do in order to score high on the actual GMAT. Rather, you picked up on some patterns that were effective in getting you relatively high scores on practice tests. So, for you to hit your score goal, your preparation, particularly for verbal, probably needs to be more complete, meaning that you have to go through the various types of GMAT questions carefully to find your exact weaknesses, fill gaps in your knowledge, and strengthen your skills.

For verbal specifically, you have to become more skilled at clearly defining the differences between trap choices and correct answers. Otherwise, you will get stuck guessing between two choices or be surprised to find that you incorrectly answered questions that you thought you answered correctly. Becoming more skilled in this way takes carefully analyzing all of the answer choices to lots of verbal questions to develop an eye for the logical differences between the choices. In other words, you have to go beyond answering practice questions and reading explanations to doing deep analysis of questions to learn to see everything that is going on in them.

Lastly, you may find my article with more information regarding
how to score a 700+ on the GMAT helpful.

Feel free to reach out with further questions.

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Scores 590 in third attempt! Need guidance immediately. [#permalink] New post   22 Feb 2020, 19:14
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kreel11 - here is the overall analysis of your ESR and well as recommendations for the path forward to 700. My findings:

1. You underperformed in Verbal, especially in CR and RC.
2. Your Verbal score is ability limited.
3. Your Quant score is both timing and ability limited.
4. You can get to a 700 with about 120 hours of effort.



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Re: Scores 590 in third attempt! Need guidance immediately. [#permalink] New post   22 Feb 2020, 20:42
egmat wrote:
kreel11 - here is the overall analysis of your ESR and well as recommendations for the path forward to 700. My findings:

1. You underperformed in Verbal, especially in CR and RC.
2. Your Verbal score is ability limited.
3. Your Quant score is both timing and ability limited.
4. You can get to a 700 with about 120 hours of effort.



-Rajat


Rajat,

Thanks for the analysis provided on my ESR. So would I need to purchase the egmat verbal course again and revisit the entire video content. Actually it took me a lot of time to finish the course the first time around and attempt scholaranium. I would need advice on how to finish the modules quickly I.e. would I need to attempt the questions in quizzes, application files again?
The concern here is to get done with the revision of the course in the least possible time since I will have to purchase the course for the third time so that's also an investment.

In addition could you advice how to approach quant now. I have the Manhattan books and OG. Shall I go through them and attempt questions in those books again? Note: I did not do each and every question of og this time just picked up questions from my weak areas and relied on gmat Club tests and mocks for quant.

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kreel11 - You would need to purchase the e-GMAT course again. Remember, had you simply extended your course in November, you likely would have succeeded on the GMAT and would have saved $300+. Having said that, your goal now should be to get a high score and secure a scholarship.

Write to the e-GMAT support team asking for an extension. That would cost you a lot less. Also, send them this analysis. They will send you instructions for either Revision A or Revision B. You will get a precise learning plan for the same.

Quant: While we can formulate a personalized plan using e-GMAT's quant course (i.e. provide metrics, define the sequence of study, etc), it's difficult for us to formulate a strategy with similar precision using third party books. I think you should ask MGMAT's team to help you with the same.

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Re: Scores 590 in third attempt! Need guidance immediately. [#permalink] New post   23 Feb 2020, 19:33
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kreel11 - You would need to purchase the e-GMAT course again. Remember, had you simply extended your course in November, you likely would have succeeded on the GMAT and would have saved $300+. Having said that, your goal now should be to get a high score and secure a scholarship.

Write to the e-GMAT support team asking for an extension. That would cost you a lot less. Also, send them this analysis. They will send you instructions for either Revision A or Revision B. You will get a precise learning plan for the same.

Quant: While we can formulate a personalized plan using e-GMAT's quant course (i.e. provide metrics, define the sequence of study, etc), it's difficult for us to formulate a strategy with similar precision using third party books. I think you should ask MGMAT's team to help you with the same.

-Rajat


Rajat,

I have mailed my ESR analysis along with other details to support team at egmat. Please see if I can get a prompt reply since I need to start the prep asap in order to appear again soon.

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