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Re: On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all [#permalink] New post   19 Oct 2020, 13:45
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ashmit99 wrote:
Hi GMATNinja egmat
Could you please help me with my doubt?

Is there a rule like : Adjectives can only modify nouns?

In the given question "good" can't be used to modify "play" because good is an adjective and "play" is a verb.

Also, what is the role of "MORE" in the following question from OG#11:

The financial crash of October 1987 demonstrated that the world’s capital markets are integrated more closely than never before and events in one part of the global village may be transmitted to the rest of the village—almost instantaneously.

(C) more closely integrated as never before while
(D) more closely integrated than ever before and that

Here "more" is an adverb or an adjective? If it's an adjective, then can "more" modify "closely"? And if it's an adverb, then can it modify another adverb (closely)?

I think "more" is an adjective because it answers the question to how closely? --->More closely.

Thanks!

Yes, you're right! You should say, "I play football well," not "I play football good." Since "play" is a verb in this case, it should be modified by an adverb (i.e. "well"), not an adjective (i.e. "good").

In your example, "more" answers the question, "How closely?" That makes it an adverb, since adjectives can technically only modify nouns -- not verbs, adverbs, or other adjectives.

Luckily, the GMAT doesn't test our knowledge of grammar jargon. :D For the most part, you just need to be able to distinguish between nouns, verbs, and modifiers. If you enjoy the minutiae of grammar beyond those basics, that's great, but the GMAT will never ask you to match a word with the correct terminology. :)
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Re: On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all [#permalink] New post   03 Nov 2020, 03:24
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Can you please explain the diff. between usage of almost & most here?
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Re: On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all [#permalink] New post   04 Nov 2020, 04:32
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Can you please explain the diff. between usage of almost & most here?


"Most all" is incorrect usage.

We can say "most of whom" or "almost all of whom" depending on what we want to imply - 'most' or 'almost all'.

Most means 'more than 50%' and 'almost all' might be something like 97-98%.
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Re: On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all [#permalink] New post   30 Nov 2020, 14:19
We never say 'most all of' to describe a quantity just short of 100%. We say 'almost all of'. Eliminate A and B.

C is incorrect because it uses 'which', which is incorrect when describing people. A 'which' that doesn't follow a comma should also raise suspicions.

Between D and E, E is the winner. Well is an adverb that modifies an action, whereas good is an adjective that modifies a person, place, or thing.
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On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all [#permalink] New post   01 Dec 2020, 14:24
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Shouldn't it be "who" instead of "whom"?

Whom/ Who is acting as the subject = Whom/Who play as well as ....

Hi Vishal, a handy rule to remember is:

Pronouns always take the object form, when used as part of a prepositional phrase.

Since of who/whom is a prepositional phrase, we should be using the object form whom.

p.s. Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses Pronoun usage in Prepositional Phrases. Have attached the corresponding section of the book, for your reference.


This is really hard for me... Is there a way to understand this difference without knowing objects and prepositional phrase, etc?
Maybe a meaning way...

Can any one help me? Maybe VeritasKarishma, who has one of the simplest explanations
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On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all [#permalink] New post   02 Dec 2020, 01:59
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EducationAisle wrote:
vishaldhawan wrote:
Shouldn't it be "who" instead of "whom"?

Whom/ Who is acting as the subject = Whom/Who play as well as ....

Hi Vishal, a handy rule to remember is:

Pronouns always take the object form, when used as part of a prepositional phrase.

Since of who/whom is a prepositional phrase, we should be using the object form whom.

p.s. Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses Pronoun usage in Prepositional Phrases. Have attached the corresponding section of the book, for your reference.


This is really hard for me... Is there a way to understand this difference without knowing objects and prepositional phrase, etc?
Maybe a meaning way...

Can any one help me? Maybe VeritasKarishma, who has one of the simplest explanations


Think of what you will put in the blanks in the sentences below:

_______ (They/Them) will come to the party.

All of _____ (they/them) will come to the party.

Why?
In the second sentence, 'of' is a preposition and 'of them' a prepositional phrase. So you use objective form 'them'. Similarly you use "some of them", "a few of them" etc.

It is the same with 'who/whom' here. You will use 'all of whom', not all of 'who'.
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Re: On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all [#permalink] New post   29 Dec 2020, 15:03
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On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all of which play as good as their instructor

A. most all of which play as good
B. most all of whom play as good
C. almost all of which play as well
D. almost all of whom play as good
E. almost all of whom play as well


We need an adverb to describe or modify the verb "play". "Good" is an adjective. An adjective can't modify a verb, an adjective modifies a noun or pronoun. "As well as" is an adverb, which is perfect to modify the verb "play"

A, B, and D are Eliminated. C has which, it can't refer persons. C is eliminated. The correct answer is E.
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On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all of which play as good as their instructor

A. most all of which play as good
B. most all of whom play as good
C. almost all of which play as well
D. almost all of whom play as good
E. almost all of whom play as well
We need to use the relative pronoun- “whom” to refer to students.
Eliminate options A and C.

We use adverbs to modify verbs.

Ex- She sang well. (How did she sing?- adverb)
She sang a good song ( good- adjective- What song? Good song)

Play is a verb. So we have to use the adverb well.
Eliminate options B and D.

Option E is correct.

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Re: On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all [#permalink] New post   11 Nov 2021, 05:18
Can anyone please explain me why most is wrong here and almost is right ?
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Re: On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all [#permalink] New post   11 Nov 2021, 05:33
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Can anyone please explain me why most is wrong here and almost is right ?


Hello khera,

We hope this finds you well.

Having gone through the question and your query, we believe we can help resolve your doubt.

As others have mentioned on this thread, "most all" is simply an unidiomatic phrase; "almost all" is the correct construction.

Further, "most all" produces an incoherent meaning; "most" simply means "the majority", so "most all" makes no sense. "almost" means "close to complete", so "almost all" conveys the logical meaning "close to the entirety".

We hope this helps.
All the best!
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Re: On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all [#permalink] New post   11 Nov 2021, 05:38
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khera wrote:
Can anyone please explain me why most is wrong here and almost is right ?

Hi khera,

Good question. Most all sounds extremely informal to me (possibly dated as well?), but I probably wouldn't go so far as to say that it is impossible. In other words, it's not as good as "almost all". The good thing is that there are multiple errors in A and B, so we can be absolutely sure that those options are incorrect.
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Re: On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all [#permalink] New post   21 Mar 2023, 07:45
Hi Bunuel,

Can you please help us with similar kind of questions, that tests the usage of adjectives and adverbs with a verb-noun mixup. While solving, I believe I made the mistake because of a time constraint, and overlooked it. Just wanted to be sure that I don't make mistakes of these kinds going forward, since they are quite simple and easy to overlook!
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Re: On the tournament roster are listed several tennis students, most all [#permalink] New post   30 Dec 2023, 07:15
From the sentence, it seems as if we are talking about the listings rather than the players and so which makes more sense. Would appreciate if someone can give a few question links of a similar nature to practice.
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