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Re: Getting to the next level at 600+ Q questions [#permalink]
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi asanchezb,

Many Test Takers focus on the 'implied level' of the questions that they're working on, instead of more relevant issues - such as WHY they're getting questions wrong. Based on your last CAT score, you have the opportunity to pick up points in BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections, so it would likely help you a great deal to define why you got those questions wrong on your last CAT.

Have you had a chance to review this CAT? In each section, how many questions did you get wrong because...
1) of a silly/little mistake?
2) the question was too hard?
3) you narrowed the answers down to 2 choices and 'guessed wrong'?
4) you were low on time and had to blindly guess?

Once you have answered those questions, you'll be in a better position to deal with whatever is keeping your from scoring higher - and then make the necessary adjustments to earn those points.

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Hi Rich, thanks for the answer.

I took another mock two days ago, and got another 640. However, this time my quant score went down from 42 to 38, and my verbal score went up from 35 to 38.

On quant, I answered 19 questions wrong. Almost half of them were because some kind of concentration lapse, I misread something, or some error of that kind; they were not hard questions. The other half were questions I found hard. In this category I am particularly struggling with absolute values, inequalities and number properties.

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Hi Andres,

GMAC has publicly stated that the Official Score that you earn on Test Day is within +/- 30 points of actual ability. Assuming a similar 'swing' in how your CATs function, your 2 CAT score results show that you essentially performed the same each time (+/- a few Scaled Points).

Given what you described about your wrong answers on this CAT, one of your bigger 'issues' is silly/little mistakes and not the 'level' of the questions. The 'fix' for this type of issue is almost always in the note-taking process (you need to consistently take notes on the pad - and NOT do work 'in your head'). If you could make this adjustment, then you could conceivably score a lot higher relatively quickly.

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EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi Andres,

GMAC has publicly stated that the Official Score that you earn on Test Day is within +/- 30 points of actual ability. Assuming a similar 'swing' in how your CATs function, your 2 CAT score results show that you essentially performed the same each time (+/- a few Scaled Points).

Given what you described about your wrong answers on this CAT, one of your bigger 'issues' is silly/little mistakes and not the 'level' of the questions. The 'fix' for this type of issue is almost always in the note-taking process (you need to consistently take notes on the pad - and NOT do work 'in your head'). If you could make this adjustment, then you could conceivably score a lot higher relatively quickly.

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Many thanks for the advice, Rich. It is very helpful. I will look into my note-taking process and try improve it, and I will try to find some information about better note-taking procedures. Regarding the questions I do considered as hard, is it a matter of keep practicing or going back to the theory?

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Hi Andres,

Until you've 'fixed' the other issues that are costing you points, the "hard" questions aren't really worth your time. That having been said, just because you think a question is 'hard' doesn't necessarily mean that it is - you might just be taking an approach to it that is inefficient or 'math heavy.' This is meant to say that most GMAT questions can be solved in more than one way, so learning Tactics and the common patterns that are tested on the GMAT would likely help you deal with ALL questions (including the 'hard' ones). I would suggest that you search for those prompts in the Forums here (and if you don't find them, then you should post the questions yourself) - the responses that you receive will likely help you to consider all of those questions in a new, easier way.

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Hi Supriyaa,

Did you have any follow-up questions on what was discussed in this thread? If you'd prefer, you can feel free to PM or email me directly.

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Hi Everyone,

I have been studying for nearly 3 months and my last mock score was 640 (Q42-V35), taken on July 2nd. This week I decided to start with mid level questions from GMAT Club in order to raise my quant score to 45-46. I have taken many quizzes and have answered a total of 75 questions in Quiz Mode, with all 600 level PS and DS kind of questions allowed. My score in each test has been between 40% and 50% right answers (a total of 31 correct, 44 incorrect). I have two questions:

(i) As a rule of thumb, how many correct answers I should be getting at this level to achieve a Q46?
(ii) How can I take the next step at this kind of questions? Maybe re-study the basics? Keep practicing? Extra attention on an error log?

Many thanks in advance!



(i). GMAC keeps that data pretty locked up tight. But I would estimate that someone scoring a Q46 is going about 75-80% at '600 level questions.'

Keep in mind also, though, that there's a wide gap between a '610' difficulty and a '690' difficulty. A person with a Q46 is probably almost perfect at low 600 level questions.

(ii). There is a lot of diversity in 'this kind of question,' and a lot of reasons someone might miss them. You have to dig deep to figure out why that is.

In general, I say there are five ways to improve a question, so when you miss a question and need to review, really ID which of these five places you could improve based on your mistake in that problem:

1). Concept/Rule/Formula
2). Mechanics
3). Habits
4). Strategy
5). Inference Opportunity

Typically, for people in the 600-700 range, I think number 1 is far less important. In the 500s or below, you probably have some conceptual weaknesses. At the 700+, you have to learn some harder, rarely tested concepts. But in the 600s, it's this other stuff.
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