pelihu wrote:
Things just turned really ugly on Wall Street. I think that this weekend will mark a historical shift in the banking business - probably more significant than anything in our lifetimes. Things are changing at a breakneck pace, but as it stands right now, it looks like Lehman is going to be liquidate, Merrill will Merge with BofA and AIG may or may not be able to stay alive (adding their pool of assets to the liquidation market could impact positions of all other financial institutions).
For people getting MBA's or with MBA aspirations, the job market just got a whole lot dimmer. It's hard to calculate the number of prime jobs lost at the MBA level, but it's unlikely that any other firms will be filling the void any time soon. It just feels like there has been a fundamental shift in the banking business. No doubt, something will move in to fill the void - boutiques or private equity firms perhaps - but Wall Street might take longer to recover this time around because the damage has never really been this widespread (at least not since the 1930s).
The indirect consequence is that jobs in other sectors will get tougher as well, as some top students that would have headed into investment banking start to target other sectors. Investment Banks, particularly the pure play banks, have traditionally had some of the most selective hiring standards. With dozens of candidates (perhaps hundreds at a place like Columbia or Wharton) shifting away from banking, competition at Big 3 consulting just got a whole lot tougher and the effects will trickle down to other jobs (and schools) where hiring hasn't traditionally been as selective.
The only thing we can hope for is an orderly open to the markets tomorrow. It's not completely out of the question that unwinding Lehman's $600B in assets could cause a shock to the worldwide economy with results that we cannot even imagine at this stage. Let's hope not.
Very insightful pelihu. I notice you think that this will make it tougher to get jobs in other sectors as well such as consulting due to tougher competition. I'm curious to hear your (and everyones else) opinion on some of the less popular MBA paths. Financial services and consulting are pretty much the top two sources of employment and highest paid positions at most top MBA programs. So it makes perfect sense that if the financial sector weakens there will be many people switching over to consulting.
But what about health care, media and entertainment, real estate, manufacturing, etc. You got people who have been working in finance and consulting all their lives. Do you really see these people switching over to manufacturing or health care?
And what about b-school admissions. While I think this will eventually sort itself out, I think it a pretty safe bet that there will be less finance internships and full time positions in the next year. If you're a b-school and you care about you placement statistics I would have to think that if you traditionally select enough people so that finance makes up almost 50% of your class that you will at least scale that back a little bit. Even if you do so by 10% that a lot of open positions for other industries.
For example at Wharton financial services makes up 48% of the class. Health care, media and entertainment, public interest, manufacturing and real estate make up 12.5% of the class. If they scaled back the number of finance people by 10% and used those slots for the industries mentioned that would almost double the students at school in those fields. Now I agree as a result it recruiting within these industries will now be tougher as well due to the increased competition.
I just think the increased competition will come from an increase in people from these industries rather than an increase in people flooding form banking. I would think that with less BB firms finance people will start taking jobs at smaller boutique firms rather than switching to a manufacturing job.