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has formulated / formulated. Which one is better? Both seem alright

since the action started sometime in the past - "has formulated" is alright
since we can put both actions in the past - "decided" and "formulated" (happened after 3 decades) "formulated" is alright.

I can't choose one from the other :-(


If an action starts in the past and continues into the present you would need a present perfect..has formulated. But the actions are in the past. the time cue is then five years old and within three decades again a time cue indicates that the policy was formulated in the past. The intended meaning of this sentence gets distorted if we use the present perfect [i]has formulated [/i]especially when the other tense in the second clause directing that fires be extinguished more quickly than they had been in the past has the past perfect tense.

So has formulated and formulated cannot both be correct. Hope I have answered your question.
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has formulated / formulated. Which one is better? Both seem alright

since the action started sometime in the past - "has formulated" is alright
since we can put both actions in the past - "decided" and "formulated" (happened after 3 decades) "formulated" is alright.

I can't choose one from the other :-(


If an action starts in the past and continues into the present you would need a present perfect..has formulated. But the actions are in the past. the time cue is then five years old and within three decades again a time cue indicates that the policy was formulated in the past. The intended meaning of this sentence gets distorted if we use the present perfect [i]has formulated [/i]especially when the other tense in the second clause directing that fires be extinguished more quickly than they had been in the past has the past perfect tense.

So has formulated and formulated cannot both be correct. Hope I have answered your question.
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has formulated / formulated. Which one is better? Both seem alright

since the action started sometime in the past - "has formulated" is alright
since we can put both actions in the past - "decided" and "formulated" (happened after 3 decades) "formulated" is alright.

I can't choose one from the other :-(


imo simple past tense is right

the choice of 'has formulated" + [a past action] will only be right if
i) the action was completed in an unfinished period of time, but in this case [within 3 decades] indicated the period ended
ii) A past action leading to a present result... eg: has formulated" + [a past action] + SO bla bla results
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The U.S. Forest Service, then five years old, decided to put out every fire in its domain, and within three decades the agency formulated what it called the 10 A.M. policy, directing that fires be extinguished quicker than they had been in the past.

A. within three decades the agency formulated what it called the 10 A.M. policy, directing that fires be extinguished quicker than they had been in the past.

B. within three decades the agency has formulated what it called the 10 A.M. policy, directing that fires be extinguished quicker than they had been in the past.

C. within three decades the agency had formulated what it called the 10 A.M. policy, directing that fires be extinguished quicker than they had been in the past.

D. within three decades the agency formulated what it called the 10 A.M. policy, directing that fires be extinguished more quickly than they had been in the past.

E. within three decades the agency has formulated what it called the 10 A.M. policy, directing that fires be extinguished more quickly than they had been in the past.
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C. within three decades the agency had formulated what it called the 10 A.M. policy, directing that fires be extinguished quicker than they had been in the past.

D. within three decades the agency formulated what it called the 10 A.M. policy, directing that fires be extinguished more quickly than they had been in the past.

I understand more quickly is grammatically correct than quicker, But need to understand difference between usage of HAD in option C and D.Can anyone tell me is it correct to use "had" and "not had" in both options?
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Between D and E.

I need a logical explanation. :(
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Between D and E.

I need a logical explanation. :(


For the verb "to formulate", present perfect or simple past, both can be correct depending on the time frame of perspective. If the current time is towards the end of the three decades, then present perfrect is correct. If the 3 decades completed in the past, then simple past is correct. However looking at the the other verb "called", it appears that the 3 decades completed in the past, and hence option D could be considered better than E.
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Can you please explain this question.
I believe E sounds right.
My understanding : When "since" and "within" is used in context of time, use of present perfect is right.
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