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New post 22 May 2014, 05:56
A quick note, I noticed that the text is different from the question that I've seen myself. (Green = from GMAT Prep exam pack 1 // Red = seen around GMAT Club)
This would help to make it clearer, as the text says that the eight appear ONLY in L.

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The other eight, which appear only in L, are called the "alphabeticals" because they appear in alphabetical order, without commentary.

A medieval manuscript called L contains all eighteen extant tragedies
by the Greek playwright Euripides. Of these, ten called the “select
plays,” are accompanied in L by ancient commentaries and also
appear in other medieval manuscripts; this group includes some of
Euripides’ best-known works, including the Medea. The other eight,
which appear in alphabetical order, without commentary. The Electra is
one of the alphabeticals.


Which of the following can be reliably concluded on the basis of the
Statements given?

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In the mock I was confused between (C) and (E).

What is the problem with (C).

The other eight,which appear in alphabetical order, without commentary. The Electra isone of the alphabeticals.
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C is wrong cause it strongly says no commentaries were written at all. However, we are taking about only the extant manuscripts. It is possible that the commentaries were written, but somehow the manuscripts are lost or not found.
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C is wrong cause it strongly says no commentaries were written at all. However, we are taking about only the extant manuscripts. It is possible that the commentaries were written, but somehow the manuscripts are lost or not found.


Then what does below sentence taken from the stimulus says,

The other eight,which appear in alphabetical order, without commentary. The Electra is one of the alphabeticals.

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C is wrong cause it strongly says no commentaries were written at all. However, we are taking about only the extant manuscripts. It is possible that the commentaries were written, but somehow the manuscripts are lost or not found.


Then what does below sentence taken from the stimulus says,

The other eight,which appear in alphabetical order, without commentary. The Electra is one of the alphabeticals.

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That statement says Electra doesn't have commentary in the manuscript called 'L'. It doesn't say there were no commentary written for Electra in general.
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OA is E.
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C is wrong cause it strongly says no commentaries were written at all. However, we are taking about only the extant manuscripts. It is possible that the commentaries were written, but somehow the manuscripts are lost or not found.


Then what does below sentence taken from the stimulus says,

The other eight,which appear in alphabetical order, without commentary. The Electra is one of the alphabeticals.

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That statement says Electra doesn't have commentary in the manuscript called 'L'. It doesn't say there were no commentary written for Electra in general.



Reading carefully you can see that the argument says that"the other eight, which appear only in L...". This clarify.

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L - Medieval manuscript - L contains 18 extant tragedies.
10 -> have ancient commentaries in L and they appear in other medieval manuscripts -> one of them is Medea.
Other 8 -> Doesn't contain any ancient commentary in L and also doesn't appear in other medieval manuscripts.-> One of them is Electra.

A. Only Euripides’ best-known works are accompanied by ancient commentaries in extant medieval manuscripts - Cannot be inferred as best known work can be in other 8.
B. The select plays are accompanied by ancient commentaries because they were the best known of Euripides’ works - Cannot be inferred as nothing is said why they are called "select plays"
C. No commentaries were written about Euripides’ Electra in ancient times - Cannot be inferred as Electra is not found in other medieval manuscripts. There might be commentaries written else where and not found yet. No is a strong word here.
D. Euripides’ Medea never appears in medieval manuscripts unaccompanied by ancient commentary - Medea has ancient commentary in L. The passage doesn't say about other medieval manuscripts
E. Euripides’ Electra does not appear accompanied by a commentary in any extant medieval manuscript. - Can be inferred as Electra is not even mentioned in other ancient manuscripts.
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A medieval manuscript called L contains all eighteen extant tragedies
by the Greek playwright Euripides. Of these, ten called the “select
plays,” are accompanied in L by ancient commentaries and also
appear in other medieval manuscripts; this group includes some of
Euripides’ best-known works, including the Medea. The other eight,
which appear in alphabetical order, without commentary. The Electra is
one of the alphabeticals.
Which of the following can be reliably concluded on the basis of the
Statements given?
A. Only Euripides’ best-known works are accompanied by ancient
commentaries in extant medieval manuscripts.
B. The select plays are accompanied by ancient commentaries
because they were the best known of Euripides’ works.
C. No commentaries were written about Euripides’ Electra in
ancient times.
D. Euripides’ Medea never appears in medieval manuscripts
unaccompanied by ancient commentary.
E. Euripides’ Electra does not appear accompanied by a commentary
in any extant medieval manuscript.


The argument didn't talk about other extant medieval manuscripts.
We dont know if L is the only extant medieval manuscript or NOT.
Was this implied anywhere in the stimulus?
So how can we reliably conclude that Euripides' Electra does not appear accompanied by a commentary
in any extant medieval manuscript
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It is clear that Euripides' Electra has no commentary in manuscript L whcih is a medieval extant manuscript

Did the argument suggest anywhere that manuscript L is the only extant medieval manuscript?

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seofah wrote:
A medieval manuscript called L contains all eighteen extant tragedies
by the Greek playwright Euripides. Of these, ten called the “select
plays,” are accompanied in L by ancient commentaries and also
appear in other medieval manuscripts; this group includes some of
Euripides’ best-known works, including the Medea.The other eight,
which appear in alphabetical order, without commentary.
The Electra is
one of the alphabeticals.
Which of the following can be reliably concluded on the basis of the
Statements given?
A. Only Euripides’ best-known works are accompanied by ancient
commentaries in extant medieval manuscripts.
B. The select plays are accompanied by ancient commentaries
because they were the best known of Euripides’ works.
C. No commentaries were written about Euripides’ Electra in
ancient times.
D. Euripides’ Medea never appears in medieval manuscripts
unaccompanied by ancient commentary.
E. Euripides’ Electra does not appear accompanied by a commentary
in any extant medieval manuscript.


The argument didn't talk about other extant medieval manuscripts.
We dont know if L is the only extant medieval manuscript or NOT.
Was this implied anywhere in the stimulus?
So how can we reliably conclude that Euripides' Electra does not appear accompanied by a commentary
in any extant medieval manuscript
?

It is clear that Euripides' Electra has no commentary in manuscript L whcih is a medieval extant manuscript

Did the argument suggest anywhere that manuscript L is the only extant medieval manuscript?

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Hi,
E cannot be the answer in the way the Q has been written..
the highlighted portion is not grammatically or logically correct, so I read the thread above..
It seems this has been reproduced with errors and misses out on an important aspect that can relate to correct choice..
please see the post above yours, which carries an image..
the correct Q is written there and the line is actually
" the other 8, which are only in L, are called alphabeticals, because they appear in alphabetical order , without commentary.

Yeah, it is surprising that many have found the answer to be E, without this vital information..

It is not a strengthener or weakener, where we can assume to reach OA as the one in CLIMATE Q of GMATPREP, we saw yesterday.
This is a conclusion Q and has to be only on what is given in the argument..
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A medieval manuscript called L contains all eighteen extant tragedies by the Greek playwright uripides. Of these, ten called the “select plays,” are accompanied in L by ancient commentaries and also appear in other medieval manuscripts; this group includes some of Euripides’ best-known works, including the Medea. The other eight, which appear in alphabetical order, without commentary. The Electra is one of the alphabeticals.

Which of the following can be reliably concluded on the basis of the
Statements given?

A. Only Euripides’ best-known works are accompanied by ancient commentaries in extant medieval manuscripts.

B. The select plays are accompanied by ancient commentaries because they were the best known of Euripides’ works.

C. No commentaries were written about Euripides’ Electra in ancient times.

D. Euripides’ Medeanever appears in medieval manuscripts unaccompanied by ancient commentary.

E. Euripides’ Electra does not appear accompanied by a commentary in any extant medieval manuscript


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Just from the argument, there are 2 groups
First group : Contains 10 Select plays, includes commentary, Medea is one of the play, some of the best works, also appears in medieval manuscripts
Second group : Remaining 8, Alphabetically arranged, No commentary, Electra is one of this group.

On looking at these 2 groups, only E captures the conflict. For example, First group can be Alphabetical too.

E. Euripides’ Electra does not appear accompanied by a commentary in any extant medieval manuscript



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E.

A. Only Euripides’ best-known works are accompanied by ancient commentaries in extant medieval manuscripts. -- As per argument, some of the best known works
B. The select plays are accompanied by ancient commentaries because they were the best known of Euripides’ works. -- Cannot be deduced from the argument.
C. No commentaries were written about Euripides’ Electra in ancient times. -- Cannot be deduced from the argument.
D. Euripides’ Medea never appears in medieval manuscripts unaccompanied by ancient commentary. -- It appears in other manuscripts but no mention if with/without any commentary.
E. Euripides’ Electra does not appear accompanied by a commentary in any extant medieval manuscript. -- appears only in L and part of group which has no commentary.

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POE . IMO its E.
What i did.
I saw stimulus too complicated to comprehend. since its must be true type. checking answers to eliminate
A - ONLY - extreme eliminate .
B- Best known ? = checked through the parah - found no comparisions. - extreme - eliminate
C- No new in ancient times- Out of scope
D - Never appears - Extreme
E- left out . - answer
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Option C and D are saying the same thing .
Then why is C wrong?
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