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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   01 Oct 2017, 03:32
Is usage of which correct here.

Which is always preceded by comma.
Exception (in which or similar phrase)

Why C is incorrect?
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   01 Oct 2017, 05:18
Hi Mike,

I still did not understand why #3 in your example is incorrect.

'That which' used in comparison context is always correct?

Please confirm.

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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   03 Oct 2017, 10:23
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abrakadabra21 wrote:
Is usage of which correct here.

Which is always preceded by comma.
Exception (in which or similar phrase)

Why C is incorrect?

Dear abrakadabra21,

I'm happy to respond. :-)

Here's choice (C):
(C) receded, the risk now could be prolonged stagnation, just as it has plagued Argentina for the past two decades
I can understand why a non-native speaker would be tempted by this wrong answer. It is terribly awkward to a native ear. The big problem is the awkward inclusion of the grossly unnecessary pronoun "it." Without that pronoun, and without the word "just," choice (C) would be elegant:
(C') receded, the risk now could be prolonged stagnation, as has plagued Argentina for the past two decades
That's incredibly sophisticated, and it's precisely the sort of structure that folks still learning English would be inclined to dismiss as wrong.

My friend, remember that the best way to become familiar with the "feel" of the English language is to develop a consistent habit of reading. See:
How to Improve Your GMAT Verbal Score

Does this make sense?
Mike :-)
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Hi Mike,

I still did not understand why #3 in your example is incorrect.

'That which' used in comparison context is always correct?

Please confirm.

Dear Chef

My friend, do you realize that I have several posts on this quite long thread? Do you understand how ambiguous your question is? You are asking about #3 in my example where? Which of multiple posts?

My friend, the reason I am pointing this out is because how you do anything is how you do everything. If you aspire for GMAT excellence, you have to bring the mindset of excellence to every single thing you do. An action done with imprecision or inattention is a lost opportunity to build the highly focused skills you will need on test day. A high level of attention is not simply something you can manifest magically on test day without any preparation--you have to hone the quality of your precise attention in every single thing you do, build it like a muscle, so it is ready for the challenge of the test.

If you want to ask about an example, give the exact date of the post, and copy the section about which you are asking--it might be easiest to quote the section about which you are inquiring. Also, make sure you are asking the highest quality question you can. How you do anything is how you do everything.

Does this make sense, my friend?
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   20 Aug 2020, 10:06
Hi experts,

Please can you explain why the usage of 'had' is incorrect here. Is it because of the presence of "now"?
I am also finding option E a little awkward because of the phrase "that which". Can we use both of these together?
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   20 Aug 2020, 11:07
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Hi experts,

Please can you explain why the usage of 'had' is incorrect here. Is it because of the presence of "now"?


The purpose of the past perfect -- had + VERBed -- is to express an action completed before another past action or event.
A: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had receded, the risk now could be prolonged stagnation.
Here, the past perfect action in red is NOT completed before another past action or event.
Thus, this usage of the past perfect is illogical.
Eliminate A.

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I am also finding option E a little awkward because of the phrase "that which". Can we use both of these together?


The most common form of suffering in this novel is the suffering that characters inflict on themselves.

One purpose of that is to serve as a COPY PRONOUN.
Here, we can avoid the repetition of suffering by replacing the noun in blue with the copy pronoun that, as follows:
The most common form of suffering in this novel is that that characters inflict on themselves.

But now we have a problem: the double-usage of that, highlighted in color above.
To avoid this double-usage, we replace the red that with which:
The most common form of suffering in this novel is that which characters inflict on themselves.
The resulting sentence in green appeared in the NY Times.

The usage of that which is rare but valid.
Its purpose is to avoid the usage of that that.
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   10 Aug 2021, 04:25
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Solution: E

Explanation: The easiest decision point on this question relates to the tense. The past perfect “had receded” is illogical in (A) and (B). There is nothing before which the fear receded! It could either have been completed at some point in the past (using the simple past receded), or more likely given the context of this sentence, be ongoing with the present perfect (has receded). In (C) and (D) the “it” is problematic as it creates a reference error – the pronoun seems to be referring back to the risk, when the goal is to compare the current stagnation with that in Argentina. Only (E), uses the logical tense “has receded” and uses “like” to make it clear that the comparison is between the possible prolonged stagnation in this cases, with the stagnation that took place in Argentina for the past two decades. Answer is (E).
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   30 Aug 2021, 19:02
Please explain how to decide the use of past perfect. Also, is the second part of A correct?
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   30 Aug 2021, 19:28
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Sure, the second part of A is fine.

As for past perfect, think of it as "the past of the past." To use it, we need to be referring to one past event that precedes another. For instance, we could say "I had already been waiting for 20 minutes when he texted to say he couldn't make our appointment."

Past event: He texted. Preceding past event: I had been waiting.

Even in these cases, I may not need the past perfect, as long as the meaning is clear. For instance, I might say "I disliked Patty until I got to know her better." I don't need to say "I had disliked Patty" just because I have two past events.
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Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   30 Nov 2021, 01:02
Kindly help GMATNinja mikemcgarry VeritasKarishma GMATNinjaTwo

I understand the 'HAD' error in A.
I still forced myself to choose it as the moment I saw the 2 commas ", content," structure. I focused on the non-essential modifier test.

And I still feel that ", the risk now could be prolonged stagnation," is crucial to the meaning of the sentence. and hence picked A.

Can you please correct me on this and provide some clarification?
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   30 Nov 2021, 03:41
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But the part you're talking about isn't a modifier at all. It's the main clause of the sentence! The format here is (dependent clause), (main clause), (modifier). Here's a simple sentence with that structure:

While I didn't enjoy the movie, I appreciate the book, one of the classics of its genre.

Again, note that "I appreciate the movie" is the main clause, not a modifier (essential or otherwise). In general, don't get too excited about essential vs. non-essential. It's a very small issue on the GMAT.
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   01 Dec 2021, 02:11
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Kindly help GMATNinja mikemcgarry VeritasKarishma GMATNinjaTwo

I understand the 'HAD' error in A.
I still forced myself to choose it as the moment I saw the 2 commas ", content," structure. I focused on the non-essential modifier test.

And I still feel that ", the risk now could be prolonged stagnation," is crucial to the meaning of the sentence. and hence picked A.

Can you please correct me on this and provide some clarification?


"Although the fear ... has receded" is the dependent clause beginning with the conjunction "although". So after the comma, you will get the main clause.
Main clause: the risk now could be prolonged stagnation, like that which has plagued Argentina for the past two decades

Note that not everything between two commas will be a non essential modifier. A modifier in between two commas is a non essential modifier.
My brother, who is very close to me, will visit me tomorrow.
"who is very close to me" - non essential modifier

But consider this sentence:
Since I am down with fever, my brother will bring my medicines, Ibuprofen and Benadryl, to me.

What is the structure here and which one is the non essential modifier, if there is one?

Since I am down with fever - Dependent clause
my brother will bring my medicines, Ibuprofen and Benadryl, to me. - Main clause
Ibuprofen and Benadryl - Non essential modifier (appositive)
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   06 Jul 2022, 17:55
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Can someone please explain why not C? Is there any wrong in using simple past tense just "receded" since it happened in the last year?

The car I have is identical to that standing outside.... correct.
I have a car just as it is standing outside.... wrong.



I don't think "it" in this sentence, "I have a car just as it is standing outside", is wrong.
It refers to a car but it does not necessarily belong to me. On the other hand, the car standing outside might is my car (your brother drove it out)
Could anyone correct me if I am wrong?
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   16 Aug 2022, 09:56
I need some suggestions here.

the sentence says "...fear last year....".

Now if the fear was in last year we need to have an "had" to indicate that it was receded last year only.
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   21 Aug 2022, 06:41
Hi, can someone explain why C is the wrong answer?
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   22 Aug 2022, 05:04
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Hi, can someone explain why C is the wrong answer?


Hello jeremqui,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, Option C incorrectly compares "prolonged stagnation" to "it has plagued Argentina for the past two decades"; remember, comparisons must always be made between similar elements.

We hope this helps.
All the best!
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Re: Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had [#permalink] Although the fear last year that the trade zone might break apart had   01 Sep 2022, 03:03
I dont like answer E
Do anyone have the same feeling that "that" in E will refer to "the risk" rather than "stagnation"?
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I dont like answer E
Do anyone have the same feeling that "that" in E will refer to "the risk" rather than "stagnation"?


Hello louisinau,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, "that" will refer to "stagnation" because the modifier phrase "like that which has plagued Argentina for the past two decades" is linked by a comma to the noun "stagnation".

We hope this helps.
All the best!
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