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By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.
a. it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms

b. a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals

c. it can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company’s products in order to meet its goals, both short and long term

d. it may be possible for company managers to determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s short and long term goals

e. managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term
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12 May 2012, 00:29

"By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations" needs to correctly modify who is applying these techniques; hence "a company's managers...

E I feel is wrong because the second clause has a "these", a pronoun that has no proper antecedent...

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+1 for B..these is the culprit in e

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13 May 2012, 08:36
option "b" is incorrect because "its" has no clear referrent , hence e is right . here "its" wrongly refers to company's products instead of company

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13 May 2012, 13:14
I will go for B as well. the antecedent of its is company's. Its is a possessive adj so it can refer back to another possessive adj.
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13 May 2012, 13:22
I am going for A, simply because all other options have included "manager". What is the guarantee that managers are who are supposedly planning operations? Aren't we unnecessarily introducing a new term?

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13 May 2012, 13:37
"By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations" should modify "managers" who can apply the techniques, that eliminates A,C,D .

between B and E . E can be eliminated because of "these" which has no antecedent and lack of parallelism "both the short and long term".
So , B is the answer.

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I am going for A, simply because all other options have included "manager". What is the guarantee that managers are who are supposedly planning operations? Aren't we unnecessarily introducing a new term?

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Hi There,

By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.

Well, you are right that the correct answer choice (Choice B) includes an alien term “manager” which is not present in the original sentence. However, we must not just eliminate an answer choice just because it has a new word. We must evaluate the role of that word in the sentence. If the word enhances the meaning of the sentence, then we should accept it. If the new word introduces an error in the sentence then it is certainly a nuisance. Get rid of it.

In this sentence, introduction of “manager” is actually enhancing the sentence. The opening modifier now has a better entity to modify. It is clear that by applying... techniques, company’s managers can achieve something.

Choice A also has parallelism error also. Notice “both the short and long terms”. Here we have two markers, “both” and “and”. Both the markers must be followed by the same entity to maintain parallelism. “both” is followed by “the”. However, there is no “the” after “and”. To make it parallel, we need either “both the short and the long terms” or “both short and long terms”.

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The essence of a dangling modifier is the absence of the modified noun and we are required to bring it into the sentence, although it may not be there in the original. For example:

After frying in the pan, the entire lot of fish was eaten.

Who ate the fish? This is tricky and GOK; so this is a defective sentence. Now let’s make it more sensible by introducing a new factor namely the doer of the action or the modified noun of the participial modifier after frying in the pan.

After frying in the pan, the cook ate the entire lot of fish.

Now this sentence is better. Thus in dangling modifier cases, the introduction of the doer turns the sentence meaningful and straight. This is how the term manager has crept in royally and grammatically in the correct choice in the given text
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17 May 2012, 10:45
Could anyone please tell where should is used ?
Plus why Its in B is right where ?
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24 May 2012, 20:22
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gomennassai wrote:
I am going for A, simply because all other options have included "manager". What is the guarantee that managers are who are supposedly planning operations? Aren't we unnecessarily introducing a new term?

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Hi There,

By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.

Well, you are right that the correct answer choice (Choice B) includes an alien term “manager” which is not present in the original sentence. However, we must not just eliminate an answer choice just because it has a new word. We must evaluate the role of that word in the sentence. If the word enhances the meaning of the sentence, then we should accept it. If the new word introduces an error in the sentence then it is certainly a nuisance. Get rid of it.

In this sentence, introduction of “manager” is actually enhancing the sentence. The opening modifier now has a better entity to modify. It is clear that by applying... techniques, company’s managers can achieve something.

Choice A also has parallelism error also. Notice “both the short and long terms”. Here we have two markers, “both” and “and”. Both the markers must be followed by the same entity to maintain parallelism. “both” is followed by “the”. However, there is no “the” after “and”. To make it parallel, we need either “both the short and the long terms” or “both short and long terms”.

Hope this helps.
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b. a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to
each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals
--> In this answer choice what is the antecedent for pronoun "its"?

e. managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of
these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term
--> "these products" is refering to managers and not company, so dont think that right....

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27 May 2012, 22:04
It's between B and E.

But what does 'its' refer to - company's managers or company's products - both are plural. I dont see "company" out there in option B.

E has "these".

By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.

b. a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals
e. managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term
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I was also between stuck in the end between B and E but then E was knocked because of the parallelism error in both the x and the y, however, I want to understand isnt it referring back to Company and then I remember reading about possessive poison.

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I was also between stuck in the end between B and E but then E was knocked because of the parallelism error in both the x and the y, however, I want to understand isnt it referring back to Company and then I remember reading about possessive poison.

Hi there,

This is the sentence with Choice E:

By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term.

In this sentence, along with the parallelism issue that you have mentioned, “each of these products” has no reference. What are these “each of these products”? Does the sentence contain a list of products to which this phrase can be referred? No. This reference error makes choice E incorrect.

Now let’s analyze the sentence with choice B:

By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals.

Pronoun “its” is a possessive noun. This means it must refer to a possessive noun. There is only one possessive noun in the sentence – “company’s”. So without any ambiguity, possessive “its” is referring to “company’s”. If we replace “its” with “company’s” we get the logical intended meaning of the sentence:

By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet company’s short and long term goals.
Hence, this choice is error free.

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09 May 2013, 05:47
How does its refer to company instead of company's products

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"Its" can have either a possessive or a non-possessive noun as its antecedent, but the antecedent has to be singular.
Possibilities are:
company --> singular
managers --> plural
products --> plural
Thus, the only antecedent that "its" can have is "company".

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By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.
a. it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms
b. a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals
c. it can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company’s products in order to meet its goals, both short and long term
d. it may be possible for company managers to determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s short and long term goals
e. managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term

here is the OE

This sentence begins with a modifier, yet leaves absent who will be applying optimization techniques (This is termed a "dangling" modifier.) Also, the sentence is unnecessarily wordy in its use of the phrases “ought to” and “in both the short and long terms.”

(A) This choice incorrectly repeats the original sentence.

(B) CORRECT. The sentence correctly places “a company’s managers” adjacent to the modifier such that the meaning is clear, and the sentence is otherwise concise.

(C) This answer does not correct the original modifier error. It also weakens the sentence by replacing the active voice with the passive voice in its use of “can be determined by company managers.” The sentence’s concluding use of “goals, both short and long term” is awkward.

(D) This answer does not correct the original modifier error. In this choice, the phrase “may be possible” is unnecessary and weakens the sentence. This choice also incorrectly uses the word “these,” as the products have not been referenced earlier in the sentence.

(E) This sentence resolves the modifier issue, but incorrectly uses the word “these,” as the products have not been referenced earlier in the sentence. This choice is also wordy in its use of “ought to” and “in both the short and long term.”

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I was also between stuck in the end between B and E but then E was knocked because of the parallelism error in both the x and the y, however, I want to understand isnt it referring back to Company and then I remember reading about possessive poison.

Hi there,

This is the sentence with Choice E:

By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term.

In this sentence, along with the parallelism issue that you have mentioned, “each of these products” has no reference. What are these “each of these products”? Does the sentence contain a list of products to which this phrase can be referred? No. This reference error makes choice E incorrect.

Now let’s analyze the sentence with choice B:

By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals.

Pronoun “its” is a possessive noun. This means it must refer to a possessive noun. There is only one possessive noun in the sentence – “company’s”. So without any ambiguity, possessive “its” is referring to “company’s”. If we replace “its” with “company’s” we get the logical intended meaning of the sentence:

By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet company’s short and long term goals.
Hence, this choice is error free.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.

Thanks for detailed explanation. However, in Choice B:
"By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals."

--> I think the "company's" in this sentence plays the role of possessive adjective, hence, can't be consider as antecedent of "its".

Quote from GMAT Manhattan:

" The board is investigating several executives' compensation packages in order to determine how much may have been improperly awarded to them"[color=#ed1c24][/color]
--> This is considered WRONG because "them" cannot refer to "executives' ".

can you help to explain and differentiate these 2 cases?

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