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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall'08 applicants [#permalink]
Hello all. First time poster here. I was waitlisted at Kellogg as well. Does it seem to anyone else that Kellogg WL'd a very large number of R1 applicants? The BW forum seems to be overflowing with them. I wonder if this is any different from years past...
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I am starting to wonder if Kellogg WLed a lot of people because of an extremely competitive first round. If you think about it, imagine they get a huge number of very talented people applying because a much greater number of applications than anticipated. They will use the waitlist people so that they have a chance to evaluate the R2 candidates, if quality is lower than R1 or they dont get a similar increase in applications they can easily start admitting people off the list.

This is what I mean: they think they will get 1500 applicants in R1 and 3000 in R2 and plan to admit 350 in R1 and 650 in R2. However they get 2000K people applying in R1, they still want to only accept 350 people but are worried that only 2500 will apply in R2 or that more high quality candidates apply in R1 than R2. They also wouldnt want to accept 425 in R1 because that would leave 575 for R2, and what if R2 goes up to 4000 applicants and is just as high a quality or even better.

I think the key to the R1 WL hinges on how big and talented the R2 applicants are, and also a big factor that has nothing to do with Kellogg is what do HSW get for applications and to a lesser extent GSB/Columbia/MIT/ and then who gets scholarships to other schools.
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Thank you to all who advised me on my wardrobe. I ended up wearing dress shoes, slacks, a white shirt and tie, and a sweater. It felt perfect.

The interview went well. We spent an hour and a half at a coffee shop by her office. She gave me a lot of room to make a case for my candidacy. I think it's a good way for the school to interview. I like that it was long enough that she could really get a feel for who I am, and not just a feel for what my answers to her questions were.

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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall'08 applicants [#permalink]
haha, river, great minds think alike. :) I had the same hypothesis over in the Stanford thread. Based on what I'm seeing this year compared to last year (application volume, WL numbers, etc...) It really looks like there's a huge surge in R1 applicants (maybe that 45% value someone quoted in this thread for K is correct). The overall number may only go up 10-20% in the end, but I think R1 has become the "true" battleground now in b-school apps.

I wouldn't be surprised that in a few weeks, people start being admitted off the WL. I also expect some WL's from Stanford, hopefully (better than a ding) :P
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I am starting to wonder if Kellogg WLed a lot of people because of an extremely competitive first round. If you think about it, imagine they get a huge number of very talented people applying because a much greater number of applications than anticipated. They will use the waitlist people so that they have a chance to evaluate the R2 candidates, if quality is lower than R1 or they dont get a similar increase in applications they can easily start admitting people off the list.

This is what I mean: they think they will get 1500 applicants in R1 and 3000 in R2 and plan to admit 350 in R1 and 650 in R2. However they get 2000K people applying in R1, they still want to only accept 350 people but are worried that only 2500 will apply in R2 or that more high quality candidates apply in R1 than R2. They also wouldnt want to accept 425 in R1 because that would leave 575 for R2, and what if R2 goes up to 4000 applicants and is just as high a quality or even better.

I think the key to the R1 WL hinges on how big and talented the R2 applicants are, and also a big factor that has nothing to do with Kellogg is what do HSW get for applications and to a lesser extent GSB/Columbia/MIT/ and then who gets scholarships to other schools.


Also, they may get a few people who have been admitted into multiple schools and choose to reject kellogg. This gives them more scope to push a WL member to admit.
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riverripper wrote:
I am starting to wonder if Kellogg WLed a lot of people because of an extremely competitive first round. If you think about it, imagine they get a huge number of very talented people applying because a much greater number of applications than anticipated. They will use the waitlist people so that they have a chance to evaluate the R2 candidates, if quality is lower than R1 or they dont get a similar increase in applications they can easily start admitting people off the list.

This is what I mean: they think they will get 1500 applicants in R1 and 3000 in R2 and plan to admit 350 in R1 and 650 in R2. However they get 2000K people applying in R1, they still want to only accept 350 people but are worried that only 2500 will apply in R2 or that more high quality candidates apply in R1 than R2. They also wouldnt want to accept 425 in R1 because that would leave 575 for R2, and what if R2 goes up to 4000 applicants and is just as high a quality or even better.

I think the key to the R1 WL hinges on how big and talented the R2 applicants are, and also a big factor that has nothing to do with Kellogg is what do HSW get for applications and to a lesser extent GSB/Columbia/MIT/ and then who gets scholarships to other schools.


Also, they may get a few people who have been admitted into multiple schools and choose to reject kellogg. This gives them more scope to push a WL member to admit.


Thats what I was implying with the statement about it depends on what HSW and the others get for applications. If they get a huge jump too then yield may be better than anticipated so fewer people will need to come off the WL.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall'08 applicants [#permalink]
on a personal note... got a reply back from kellogg about interviews....

They are still busy arranging them, so mine hasn't been arrnaged yet due to finding available alumni
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall'08 applicants [#permalink]
Ok, I did not know chicago residents must interview off campus..this is not mentioned anywhere on Part I of the application.

Should I email admission about this?
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Ok, I did not know chicago residents must interview off campus..this is not mentioned anywhere on Part I of the application.

Should I email admissio about this?

Yes you should! They have that requirement for a reason, so call adcom soon.
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Ok, I did not know chicago residents must interview off campus..this is not mentioned anywhere on Part I of the application.

Should I email admission about this?


It is mentioned somewhere on the website or on the interview request. I forget where, but I did clearly see it.
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What are Kellogg's requirements for font size and margins? I know they want an inch at the top but how much can the left, right and bottom margin be adjusted? Can I use 11" font? Thanks.
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What are Kellogg's requirements for font size and margins? I know they want an inch at the top but how much can the left, right and bottom margin be adjusted? Can I use 11" font? Thanks.


Use whatever you want as long as its readable. If you look further back in this thread, you'll see the variance in font/margin.
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Re: Calling all Kellogg Fall'08 applicants [#permalink]
Uhm...

when do you think will Kellogg start to give out R2 admissions? How soon after the R1 deadline did they start calling people?

Does that sound a little anxious?

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No clue if R2 will follow the same basic timeline but R1 deadline was October 19th and I heard on Nov 27th (basically 5 weeks). I know I was the first on here and BW, I think there was one the day before on Admin411. I did not interview super early either, if I recall correctly it was Nov 5th or so.

So realistically people could know mid feb...not sure if things like admit weekend will delay that or not. Also volume in R2 is supposed to MUCH greater than R1 so that could slow it down, but the sure bet admits should find out quick.
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Did anyone have difficulty uploading their scanned transcript into the Kellog online application? I have jpeg file that is about 124Kb and I keep receiving errors when attempting to upload
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Did anyone have difficulty uploading their scanned transcript into the Kellog online application? I have jpeg file that is about 124Kb and I keep receiving errors when attempting to upload


The only difficulty I had was scanning it and fitting it within the size limit of the file, while keeping it legible. Mine also was 4 pages long.
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I was cleaning out my desk and came across a highlighted chat from Kellogg this fall, here are a few interesting tidbits. The second one could be helpful to internationals who haven’t submitted their app yet as a reason you like Kellogg.

When asked about career changers competing for IB jobs…
Leigh Nagy Frasher (career services) wrote:
Kellogg is very unique in that almost all of the students going into ibanking are career changers, so you’ll be in good company. The alumni at the banks coming to Kellogg to recruit are very aware that students are career changers. There will be networking events starting in October, but I think the one thing that sets Kellogg apart at these events is that students are very collegial to each other and it is not a cutthroat atmosphere. Also, the clubs, second years, our workshops and your classes will prepare you to be able to speak the language of consulting and banking


Asked about internationals competing for jobs (may make for a good little thing to show some real knowledge of the school and fit)
Leigh Nagy Frasher (career services) wrote:
Last year our international students did well. We actually instituted a new program this year for our international students that occurs the 3 weeks prior to classes called ACE. During this session we cover some language/accent classes, how to network in the US, how to get up to speed on US pop culture, dining etiquette, etc. It was a great pilot program and will be doing it again this year.
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