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can you pls explain the following

i have a question about this formula \(Total=A+B+C -\){Sum of Exactly 2 groups members} \(- 2*AnBnC + Neither\).

does a regions (1, 2 and 3) of exactly 2 group overlaps include those in three group overlap as well ? if so then why are we subtracting three group overlap twice ?

on the other hand if regions (1, 2 and 3) of exactly 2 group overlaps DO NOT include people of three group overlap, then why are we subtracting three group overlap twice, ... if regions of exactly 2 group overlaps DO NOT include people of three group overlap then we have to subract it only once :?


A + B + C = Exactly 1 + Exactly 2 counted twice + Exactly 3 counted thrice

Check this post: https://anaprep.com/sets-statistics-thr ... ping-sets/
It will show with a diagram the various regions.

Note that
A + B + C = (a + d + g + e) + (b + d + g + f) + (c + e + g + f)
Hence, exactly 1 is counted once.
Exactly 2 (d, e, f) are counted twice
Exactly 3 (g) is counted 3 times.

So we subtract "Exactly 2" once and "Exactly 3" two times.

Originally posted by KarishmaB on 07 Jun 2021, 00:44.
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Dear Bunuel
Is there any formula to calculate min or max of intersection for 3 sets? (If so, would you pls write it?)
I have problem in answering min max in set questions? Is there any source on GMAT Club for it?
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harshamadabal wrote:
Hi All,

Am a new chap here....

I did not quite understand the below sentence
from A+B+C, we are subtracting sections 1, 2, and 3 ONCE BUT section 4 THREE TIMES (and we need to subtract section 4 only twice)

i understood that section 4 is deleted thrice, but why should it be deleted twice..it should be deleted only once right?


Hi, and welcome to Gmat Club!

Formula is: \(Total=A+B+C-(AnB+AnC+BnC)+AnBnC+Neither\).

Not to have double counting of section 4 we should count it only once. A+B+C counts it 3 times (so to count section 4 once we should subtract it twice), but then when we subtract (AnB+AnC+BnC) we subtract section 4 three times so at this stage we haven't counted it at all, so we should add it once and that' why we have +AnBnC part.

Hope it's clear.
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Dear Bunuel
Is there any formula to calculate min or max of intersection for 3 sets? (If so, would you pls write it?)
I have problem in answering min max in set questions? Is there any source on GMAT Club for it?
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I know your query is directed toward Bunuel and I am sure he will share some wonderful resources (as always) with you but meanwhile, I am sharing a few of my videos on max min concept in overlapping sets that my learners found very helpful:

How to deal with Max Min in Overlapping Sets: https://youtu.be/oLKbIyb1ZrI
Overlapping Sets Max Min with Atleast One: https://youtu.be/4IujMV4et-U
Overlapping Sets - Max Min given Both and Neither: https://youtu.be/M3wJ15ZC1pY
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Re: Formulae for 3 overlapping sets [#permalink]
Dear karishma
I do appreciate for your videos, they are very useful, I already watched them
still, I am looking for a formula, if it exists, that I can solve such problems fast?
If you know the formulas I would appreciate if you share it
Best regards
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nazii wrote:
Dear Bunuel
Is there any formula to calculate min or max of intersection for 3 sets? (If so, would you pls write it?)
I have problem in answering min max in set questions? Is there any source on GMAT Club for it?
Best Regards



I know your query is directed toward Bunuel and I am sure he will share some wonderful resources (as always) with you but meanwhile, I am sharing a few of my videos on max min concept in overlapping sets that my learners found very helpful:

How to deal with Max Min in Overlapping Sets: https://youtu.be/oLKbIyb1ZrI
Overlapping Sets Max Min with Atleast One: https://youtu.be/4IujMV4et-U
Overlapping Sets - Max Min given Both and Neither: https://youtu.be/M3wJ15ZC1pY
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nazii wrote:
Dear Bunuel
Is there any formula to calculate min or max of intersection for 3 sets? (If so, would you pls write it?)
I have problem in answering min max in set questions? Is there any source on GMAT Club for it?
Best Regards

Bunuel wrote:
harshamadabal wrote:
Hi All,

Am a new chap here....

I did not quite understand the below sentence
from A+B+C, we are subtracting sections 1, 2, and 3 ONCE BUT section 4 THREE TIMES (and we need to subtract section 4 only twice)

i understood that section 4 is deleted thrice, but why should it be deleted twice..it should be deleted only once right?


Hi, and welcome to Gmat Club!

Formula is: \(Total=A+B+C-(AnB+AnC+BnC)+AnBnC+Neither\).

Not to have double counting of section 4 we should count it only once. A+B+C counts it 3 times (so to count section 4 once we should subtract it twice), but then when we subtract (AnB+AnC+BnC) we subtract section 4 three times so at this stage we haven't counted it at all, so we should add it once and that' why we have +AnBnC part.

Hope it's clear.


I'm not aware of any specific formula for this. However, below are some links that might be useful to you

14. Min/Max Problems



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nazii wrote:
Dear karishma
I do appreciate for your videos, they are very useful, I already watched them
still, I am looking for a formula, if it exists, that I can solve such problems fast?
If you know the formulas I would appreciate if you share it
Best regards
KarishmaB wrote:
nazii wrote:
Dear Bunuel
Is there any formula to calculate min or max of intersection for 3 sets? (If so, would you pls write it?)
I have problem in answering min max in set questions? Is there any source on GMAT Club for it?
Best Regards



I know your query is directed toward Bunuel and I am sure he will share some wonderful resources (as always) with you but meanwhile, I am sharing a few of my videos on max min concept in overlapping sets that my learners found very helpful:

How to deal with Max Min in Overlapping Sets: https://youtu.be/oLKbIyb1ZrI
Overlapping Sets Max Min with Atleast One: https://youtu.be/4IujMV4et-U
Overlapping Sets - Max Min given Both and Neither: https://youtu.be/M3wJ15ZC1pY



There are no other formulae for max min. The formulae are the same as for regular sets questions. The important point is that to maximise overlap, you would need to maximise neither i.e. bring the circles closer together. The videos discuss the process to follow and the reason behind it and you can very easily solve most min max questions using this process.
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