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Total no of ways = 5! = 120

No of ways one card can be chosen which goes into the correct envelope out of 5 cards is = 5 c 1 = 5

The no of ways in which other four cards can be put into wrong envelopes = D (4) = 9
So the required probability = 5 * 9 / 120 = 45 / 120 = 3 /8
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Ida had 5 cards with matching envelopes - same in design, different in color. She removed the cards from all envelopes and randomly put them back. What is the probability that exactly one card got into the matching envelope?


A \(\frac{3}{16}\)
B \(\frac{5}{8}\)
C \(\frac{3}{8}\)
D \(\frac{1}{4}\)
E \(\frac{1}{2}\)

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total cards = 5
right ; 1/5
wrong ; 3/4*2/3*1/2 *1/1
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1/5*3/4*2/3*1/2 *1/1 * 5c4 ways = 1/4
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Total no of ways = 5! = 120

No of ways one card can be chosen which goes into the correct envelope out of 5 cards is = 5 c 1 = 5

The no of ways in which other four cards can be put into wrong envelopes = D (4) = 9
So the required probability = 5 * 9 / 120 = 45 / 120 = 3 /8



This is correct.
Not sure what the official explanation says and why the official answer is (1/4) if it is indeed 1/4.
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sayan640 wrote:
Bunuel , VeritasKarishma, mikemcgarry

Total no of ways = 5! = 120

No of ways one card can be chosen which goes into the correct envelope out of 5 cards is = 5 c 1 = 5

The no of ways in which other four cards can be put into wrong envelopes = D (4) = 9
So the required probability = 5 * 9 / 120 = 45 / 120 = 3 /8



This is correct.
Not sure what the official explanation says and why the official answer is (1/4) if it is indeed 1/4.


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Please correct the OA...Unnecessarily giving way to confusion....Please change the OA from D to option C...You may refer to my explanation for OE... :)

Originally posted by sayan640 on 15 Apr 2019, 05:31.
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sayan640 wrote:
Bunuel , VeritasKarishma, mikemcgarry

Total no of ways = 5! = 120

No of ways one card can be chosen which goes into the correct envelope out of 5 cards is = 5 c 1 = 5

The no of ways in which other four cards can be put into wrong envelopes = D (4) = 9
So the required probability = 5 * 9 / 120 = 45 / 120 = 3 /8



This is correct.
Not sure what the official explanation says and why the official answer is (1/4) if it is indeed 1/4.


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Please correct the OA...Unnecessarily giving way to confusion....Please change the OA from D to option C...You may refer to my explanation for OE... :)

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Done. Thank you.
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Selecting one right envelope = 5 C 1 = 5 ways
Derangment of 4 envelopes = 4!(1- 1/1!+1/2!-1/3!+1/4!) = 9
Total ways of arrangement = 120

Probability of 1 envelope placed in right place = 9*5/120 = 3/8

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Total no of ways = 5! = 120

No of ways one card can be chosen which goes into the correct envelope out of 5 cards is = 5 c 1 = 5

The no of ways in which other four cards can be put into wrong envelopes = D (4) = 9
So the required probability = 5 * 9 / 120 = 45 / 120 = 3 /8[/quote]


This is correct.
Not sure what the official explanation says and why the official answer is (1/4) if it is indeed 1/4.[/quote]

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Please correct the OA...Unnecessarily giving way to confusion....Please change the OA from D to option C...You may refer to my explanation for OE... :)[/quote]


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hi could you please advise on the highlighted part. How did we arrive at 9?
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Re: Ida had 5 cards with matching envelopes - same in design, different in [#permalink]
It is formula for derangment derangment of n items is given by following formula.
D(n) = n!(1- 1/1!+1/2!-1/3!+1/4!......1/n!)

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Total no of ways = 5! = 120


my take on question below as per my understanding of the link
total cards given 5

so chances of selecting 1 correct card into 1 correct envelope = 5c1
total ways of choosing a card for an envelope = 5!
now we have to select ways to select a card which is to put into wrong envelope
so for 4 cards we have 3 ways to choose wrong envelope
for 3 cards we have 3 ways to choose wrong envelope
and for 2 cards we have 1 way to choose wrong envelope
total ways we can put 4 cards in wrong envelope; 3*3*1 = 9
The probability that exactly one card got into the matching envelope
5c1*9/5! = 3/8

Originally posted by Archit3110 on 15 Apr 2019, 07:42.
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It is formula for derangment derangment of n items is given by following formula.
D(n) = n!(1- 1/1!+1/2!-1/3!+1/4!......1/n!)

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akdebonair well I have never come across this formula in probability of de arrangement , anyways thanks for the explanation
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Total no of ways = 5! = 120

No of ways one card can be chosen which goes into the correct envelope out of 5 cards is = 5 c 1 = 5

The no of ways in which other four cards can be put into wrong envelopes = D (4) = 9
So the required probability = 5 * 9 / 120 = 45 / 120 = 3 /8



This is correct.
Not sure what the official explanation says and why the official answer is (1/4) if it is indeed 1/4.[/quote]

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Please correct the OA...Unnecessarily giving way to confusion....Please change the OA from D to option C...You may refer to my explanation for OE... :)[/quote]




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hi could you please advise on the highlighted part. How did we arrive at 9?[/quote]

Hi Archit Archit3110,

Please go through this...

https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/blog/2011/ ... envelopes/
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Total no of ways = 5! = 120


my take on question below as per my understanding of the link
total cards given 5

so chances of selecting 1 correct card into 1 correct envelope = 5c1
total ways of choosing a card for an envelope = 5!
now we have to select ways to select a card which is to put into wrong envelope
so for 4 cards we have 3 ways to choose wrong envelope
for 3 cards we have 3 ways to choose wrong envelope
and for 2 cards we have 1 way to choose wrong envelope
total ways we can put 4 cards in wrong envelope; 3*3*1 = 9
The probability that exactly one card got into the matching envelope
5c1*9/5! = 3/8

Originally posted by Archit3110 on 15 Apr 2019, 10:31.
Last edited by Archit3110 on 15 Apr 2019, 22:54, edited 2 times in total.
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Total no of ways = 5! = 120

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I went through the link but I am not able to understand how you getting 9
my take on question below as per my understanding of the link
total cards given 5

so chances of selecting 1 correct card into 1 correct envelope = 5c1
total ways of choosing a card for an envelope = 5!
now we have to select ways to select a card which is to put into wrong envelope
so for 4 cards we have 3 ways to choose wrong envelope
for 3 cards we have 2 ways to choose wrong envelope
and for 2 cards we have 1 way to choose wrong envelope
total ways we can put 4 cards in wrong envelope; 3*2*1 = 6
The probability that exactly one card got into the matching envelope
5c1*6/5! = 1/4

VeritasKarishma sayan640 ; please explain /highlight where exactly am i going wrong.. :(



Total no of ways = 5! = 120

No of ways one card can be chosen which goes into the correct envelope out of 5 cards is = 5 c 1 = 5

The no of ways in which other four cards can be put into wrong envelopes = D (4) = 9
( It has been derived in this link :- https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/blog/2011/ ... envelopes/ )
( In question 2 ..no 5 ..to make your life easier..)
Now I think you understood how D(4) = 9..
:) :)
So the required probability = 5 * 9 / 120 = 45 / 120 = 3 /8
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Yes understood where I went wrong.. thank you sayan640

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Other than derangement do we have any other method of solving this?

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Did you find it difficult to understand anywhere ?

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Other than derangement do we have any other method of solving this?

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sumi747 please see my solution , I have used method given in Veritas link.
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