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# Is Manhattan Test Series a Joke or a Gimmick ?

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11 Aug 2018, 21:57
Okay, so last to last week I gave a GMAT prep mock 1 to see how much I was doing after giving 3 weeks or so on improving my verbal skills. I got 720(Q50, V37) and it went quite well and easy.
Since I have 6 Manhattan mocks, I decided to give one of them since I didn't want to exhaust all of my official mocks.
Now in Manhattan mock, throughout the exam, I felt the exam was EXTREMELY hard compared to my last exam. Like it was unreasonably difficult. At places, I had to even pause and do question because every question seemed to take a lot of time, and my priority was on getting it right rather than solving it in time.
I scored 690(Q49,V35). I would have been shocked with Q49, because I'm pretty solid at maths but this time I was like thank god because The quant section, seemed like a joke.

I have attached the level of questions that came in exam, in Quant 30 questions of lvl 700-800 with avg being 750+.
There was just 1 question 600-700. 30 QUESTIONS OUT OF 31 WERE 700-800!

Coming to verbal,
500-600: 2
600-700: 2
700-800: 32

So basically, out of the 68 questions, 62 were 700-800 lvl question(avg difficulty 750).
IS THIS A JOKE?
Are there any decent good CAT's that are actually useful? ( I currently have 3 official mocks left, just gave 1 till now, and GMAT club CAT's but the verbal and quant are sperate over there, although I plan to give all of them anyway).
I also have 5 MGMAT mocks left but honestly don't feel like giving them. Is this how everyone got out of their MGMAT mocks ? 62 700-800 questions ?

PS any sugesstion on good test series that have adapted the new gmat format or should I invest in further more offical mocks, i.e, mocks 5&6 ?
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12 Aug 2018, 06:17
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anishraina wrote:
Okay, so last to last week I gave a GMAT prep mock 1 to see how much I was doing after giving 3 weeks or so on improving my verbal skills. I got 720(Q50, V37) and it went quite well and easy.
Since I have 6 Manhattan mocks, I decided to give one of them since I didn't want to exhaust all of my official mocks.
Now in Manhattan mock, throughout the exam, I felt the exam was EXTREMELY hard compared to my last exam. Like it was unreasonably difficult. At places, I had to even pause and do question because every question seemed to take a lot of time, and my priority was on getting it right rather than solving it in time.
I scored 690(Q49,V35). I would have been shocked with Q49, because I'm pretty solid at maths but this time I was like thank god because The quant section, seemed like a joke.

I have attached the level of questions that came in exam, in Quant 30 questions of lvl 700-800 with avg being 750+.
There was just 1 question 600-700. 30 QUESTIONS OUT OF 31 WERE 700-800!

Coming to verbal,
500-600: 2
600-700: 2
700-800: 32

So basically, out of the 68 questions, 62 were 700-800 lvl question(avg difficulty 750).
IS THIS A JOKE?
Are there any decent good CAT's that are actually useful? ( I currently have 3 official mocks left, just gave 1 till now, and GMAT club CAT's but the verbal and quant are sperate over there, although I plan to give all of them anyway).
I also have 5 MGMAT mocks left but honestly don't feel like giving them. Is this how everyone got out of their MGMAT mocks ? 62 700-800 questions ?

PS any sugesstion on good test series that have adapted the new gmat format or should I invest in further more offical mocks, i.e, mocks 5&6 ?

Hello anishraina

Congrats on good mock scores.

I count there Manhattan 690 also

Yes it is not a secret that Manhattan is harder than real GMAT on quant, we all know that.

Seems like that is news to you.

And that is actually a good thing, since it will be good prep for real thing.

So don't stress about Manhattan scores and don't take them literally as real GMAT prediction, you should add up 30-40 points.

And yes, you should take rest of them, all remaining 5 if you have time.

Scoring algorithm was not adaptive, it was random, questions were pre-selected in advance obviously, it will not be exactly like that on the rest of the exams, still you can expect be little harder than real exam.

Now, by far best thing for you is to buy additional official exams.

Nothing matches official exams. Period.

No need to explain why.

GMAT Club tests will also be harder on quant section, so be prepared for that.

Now, if you want third party tests, that are most closely related to real GMAT exam in terms of score prediction and question difficulty than go for Kaplan tests.

To summarize, all tests above that I mentioned are actually best option on market, official ones are out of competition, Manhattan and GMAT Club are harder on math which is advantage, if you don't fret about score and Kaplan can simulate real exam difficulty.

It is for you to decide where to invest time and \$\$\$.

If I were you, I would buy additional official ones for sure and depending on your ambition and allowed time for prep I would go for Manhattan/GMAT Club if you want to raise the bar and challenge yourself, or for Kaplan if comparing scores in terms of accurate prediction is most important for you now from psychological standpoint.

Hope this helps you to decide
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12 Aug 2018, 06:28
I have seen all of you talking about Manhattan, kaplan tests but nobody recommending veritas. However, I gave two mocks and felt then pretty tough and not the actual GMAT level? Is it true? Or probably it was me consoling myself with an excuse on poor scores?

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12 Aug 2018, 06:34
Sheetal15 wrote:
I have seen all of you talking about Manhattan, kaplan tests but nobody recommending veritas. However, I gave two mocks and felt then pretty tough and not the actual GMAT level? Is it true? Or probably it was me consoling myself with an excuse on poor scores?

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I personally don't feel that Veritas mocks are good. I never recommend people Veritas mocks. The algorithm is not great and the quality of questions is better in MGMAT.
Again it's up to you to decide!
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12 Aug 2018, 23:12
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anishraina wrote:
Okay, so last to last week I gave a GMAT prep mock 1 to see how much I was doing after giving 3 weeks or so on improving my verbal skills. I got 720(Q50, V37) and it went quite well and easy.
Since I have 6 Manhattan mocks, I decided to give one of them since I didn't want to exhaust all of my official mocks.
Now in Manhattan mock, throughout the exam, I felt the exam was EXTREMELY hard compared to my last exam. Like it was unreasonably difficult. At places, I had to even pause and do question because every question seemed to take a lot of time, and my priority was on getting it right rather than solving it in time.
I scored 690(Q49,V35). I would have been shocked with Q49, because I'm pretty solid at maths but this time I was like thank god because The quant section, seemed like a joke.

I have attached the level of questions that came in exam, in Quant 30 questions of lvl 700-800 with avg being 750+.
There was just 1 question 600-700. 30 QUESTIONS OUT OF 31 WERE 700-800!

Coming to verbal,
500-600: 2
600-700: 2
700-800: 32

So basically, out of the 68 questions, 62 were 700-800 lvl question(avg difficulty 750).
IS THIS A JOKE?
Are there any decent good CAT's that are actually useful? ( I currently have 3 official mocks left, just gave 1 till now, and GMAT club CAT's but the verbal and quant are sperate over there, although I plan to give all of them anyway).
I also have 5 MGMAT mocks left but honestly don't feel like giving them. Is this how everyone got out of their MGMAT mocks ? 62 700-800 questions ?

PS any sugesstion on good test series that have adapted the new gmat format or should I invest in further more offical mocks, i.e, mocks 5&6 ?

Hello anishraina

Congrats on good mock scores.

I count there Manhattan 690 also

Yes it is not a secret that Manhattan is harder than real GMAT on quant, we all know that.

Seems like that is news to you.

And that is actually a good thing, since it will be good prep for real thing.

So don't stress about Manhattan scores and don't take them literally as real GMAT prediction, you should add up 30-40 points.

And yes, you should take rest of them, all remaining 5 if you have time.

Scoring algorithm was not adaptive, it was random, questions were pre-selected in advance obviously, it will not be exactly like that on the rest of the exams, still you can expect be little harder than real exam.

Now, by far best thing for you is to buy additional official exams.

Nothing matches official exams. Period.

No need to explain why.

GMAT Club tests will also be harder on quant section, so be prepared for that.

Now, if you want third party tests, that are most closely related to real GMAT exam in terms of score prediction and question difficulty than go for Kaplan tests.

To summarize, all tests above that I mentioned are actually best option on market, official ones are out of competition, Manhattan and GMAT Club are harder on math which is advantage, if you don't fret about score and Kaplan can simulate real exam difficulty.

It is for you to decide where to invest time and \$\$\$.

If I were you, I would buy additional official ones for sure and depending on your ambition and allowed time for prep I would go for Manhattan/GMAT Club if you want to raise the bar and challenge yourself, or for Kaplan if comparing scores in terms of accurate prediction is most important for you now from psychological standpoint.

Hope this helps you to decide

billionaire
Thanks for your advice. Will probably get more official mocks.
And yes I knew MGMAT mock would be hard on quant but didn't know it would be hard on every question. How is that adaptive anymore then?

Also, I can still accept that okay quant is relatively hard on MGMAT, but verbal was also almost the same. Just 4 questions that were below 700 level out of 37.
I can understand that they make much harder tests to push you more, but the test felt just hard, not adaptive at all.
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13 Aug 2018, 06:02
anishraina wrote:
Are there any decent good CAT's that are actually useful?

Someone working with me used to use take a practice test by using a Veritas test for quant and a Manhattan Prep test for verbal. He felt that Manhattan quant wasn't realistic.

I personally find the Veritas tests to be pretty good. They def worked for me.

One thing to keep in mind is that much of what you are looking to do when you take a practice test is to learn to deal with the pressures of the test and to practice seeing what you have to see and coming up with ways to get answers to tricky questions. For those purposes, taking either a Manhattan CAT or a Veritas CAT will work. Even if not all of the questions quite match the official GMAT format, many of them are pretty close, and those two companies' tests are good tools for learning how to rock the GMAT.

The GMAT Prep official practice tests can be used for fine tuning your approach and confirming that you are ready to hit your score goal.
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14 Aug 2018, 18:11
Hi anishraina,

I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. For starters, when you take practice tests from companies other than GMAC, you should expect some variation in algorithms used and thus variations in your score. That being said, since there are 5 more official GMAC mocks that you can take, you may not need to take any additional non-GMAC tests. Thus, I suggest that you focus on improving your GMAT skills and take the remaining tests at the conclusion of your prep.

All that said, when do you plan to take the GMAT? What is your GMAT score goal? For how many hours do you plan to study between now and your scheduled GMAT? You may find this article about how to score a 700+ on the GMAT helpful.

Feel free to reach out with any further questions.

Good luck!
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