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daagh - could you please help to understand which part of sentence is subjunctive ? Also what is mean my subjunctive is unwarranted ?
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What does "it" stands for in (D)?
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IanStewart is "it" incorrect in (A) since there is no antecedent? or does "it" have an antecedent


It depends how you read answer A - it's not a proper sentence because of the first comma (after '1993'). If you delete that comma, then 'it' refers to the long part of the sentence 'that a citizen hold gold (etc)'. If you think of these two much simpler sentences:

Littering is a crime
It is a crime to litter

or if you prefer something a bit closer to the original, these two:

On account of a 1993 law, littering is a crime.
On account of a 1993 law, it is a crime to litter.

then the meaning of each sentence is identical, and each is grammatically correct. In the versions that use 'it', the word 'it' refers to 'to litter'. The same happens in the original question in this thread, but the wording is a lot more complicated. And if you delete the first comma in answer A, then the word 'it' functions the same way as it does in answer D.

The problem with A is that the first comma sets off the 'On account...' phrase from the rest of the sentence. It then becomes a modifier we should be able to delete and still have a complete sentence (just as you can in the two sentences I wrote above that begin "On account of a 1993 law, ..."). But if you delete that part of answer A, you don't have an English sentence, so that first comma alone is fatal, and A can't be right. And because the sentence doesn't make any sense as written, it's actually hard to decide what role the word 'it' is even playing.

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Why no one is pointing to the glaring subject-verb agreement error between the subject "a US citizen" and the verb "hold" in option-A and B?

Could anyone please shed some light?
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Why no one is pointing to the glaring subject-verb agreement error between the subject "a US citizen" and the verb "hold" in option-A and B?

Could anyone please shed some light?


The verb is in the subjunctive in answers A and B, and is actually correct. Some replies early in this thread argued that the use of the subjunctive here was unwarranted, but as best I can tell, it's mandatory. If the sentence were changed to the indicative, so if it said something like (simplifying) :

It is a crime that a citizen holds gold...

then the sentence is saying "A citizen holds gold, and that is a crime." But that's not the intention here; the sentence means to describe a hypothetical only. It means to say "If a citizen were to hold gold, that would be a crime." And the subjunctive mood exists precisely to express hypotheticals (and a few other things). Phrased with the subjunctive:

It is a crime that a citizen hold gold...

the sentence now means "If it were true that a citizen held gold, that would be a crime."

We don't use the subjunctive often in ordinary writing or conversation, and people often don't use it when it would be the technically correct (according to grammarians) choice, so sometimes sentences that use it correctly can sound strange, and I can see how that would be the case here.

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aarkay87 wrote:
Why no one is pointing to the glaring subject-verb agreement error between the subject "a US citizen" and the verb "hold" in option-A and B?

Could anyone please shed some light?


The verb is in the subjunctive in answers A and B, and is actually correct. Some replies early in this thread argued that the use of the subjunctive here was unwarranted, but as best I can tell, it's mandatory. If the sentence were changed to the indicative, so if it said something like (simplifying) :

It is a crime that a citizen holds gold...

then the sentence is saying "A citizen holds gold, and that is a crime." But that's not the intention here; the sentence means to describe a hypothetical only. It means to say "If a citizen were to hold gold, that would be a crime." And the subjunctive mood exists precisely to express hypotheticals (and a few other things). Phrased with the subjunctive:

It is a crime that a citizen hold gold...

the sentence now means "If it were true that a citizen held gold, that would be a crime."

We don't use the subjunctive often in ordinary writing or conversation, and people often don't use it when it would be the technically correct (according to grammarians) choice, so sometimes sentences that use it correctly can sound strange, and I can see how that would be the case here.

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Hi IanStewart


Thanks for the revert!

For subjunctive mood, there must be a bossy verb for standard structure "Bossy verb + THAT + Subject + command subjunctive"
which one is the bossy verb in the problem under-discussion?

I also checked option-A & B in "Grammarly.com". Grammarly also says that there should be a singular verb i.e. "holds" for a grammatically correct structure.

Please share your inputs.

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THE SUBJUNCTIVE MOOD
So this is basically used in two special situations:
- Unlikely or unreal conditions (usually after 'if' or a similar word)
- Proposals, desires, and requests formed with certain verbs and the word that
These two uses correspond to two forms of the subjunctive mood: The Hypothetical Subjunctive and the Command Subjunctive, respectively

The Hypothetical Subjunctive
We use it in a few circumstances to indicate unlikely or unreal conditions. Principally, this form occurs after 'if', 'as if', or 'as though'
Now the basic form of the Hypothetical Subjuctive is equivalent to the Simple Past of every Verb, with one exception. For the verb 'to be' . For the verb 'to be' the form were is always used.
Eg. To overcome my fear of germs, I will think about disease as though it WERE harmless

The Command Subjunctive
The other form of the subjunctive mood is the Command Subjunctive, which is much more important on the GMAT than the Hypotethical Subjunctive
The command subjunctive is used with certain BOSSY VERBS such as require or propose. Bossy Verbs tell people to do things
This form is also known as the Bare Form of the verb: the infinitive without the 'to'.
The subjunctive construction with a Bossy Verb is always as follows: Bossy Verb + THAT + subject + Command Subjunctive
However, there are some common Bossy Verbs, such as WANT, you cannot use the Command Subjunctive with but rather an infinitive (to + the bare form)
- Common Verbs that take ONLY the Command Subjunctive when indicating desire: demand, dictate, insist, mandate, propose, recommend, request, stipulate, suggest

Note: Propose can take an infinitive when there's no second subject (Eg. The attorneys PROPOSED TO MEET the following day)
- Verbs that take ONLY the infinitive: advice, allow, forbid, persuade, want
- Verbs that take EITHER the Command Subjunctive OR the infitinive: ask, beg, intend, order, prefer, urge, require

Also, you should keep in mind that few bossy words, most notably prohibit, take other constructions alltogether (Prohibit FROM)
The Command subjunctive can also be used with nouns derived from Bossy Verbs, such as a demand or a request.
Also the Command subjunctive is possible with 'It is X', in which X is an adjective, such as essential, that conveys urgency. It is X is not commonly tested on the GMAT (Eg. It is essential THAT Gary BE ready before noon)

Other adjectives conveying urgency include: advisable, crucial, desirable, fitting, imperative, important, mandatory, necessary, preferable, urgent and vital.
Note also that you can use an infinitive in these constructions (Eg. It is essential for Gary to be ready before noon)
Avoid the use of the Command Subjunctive 'whether'. This usage is old fashioned (Eg. I like Ice cream, , whether it BE choclolate, vanilla, or any other flavor)

Oh and by the way, a few Bossy Verbs can be used in non-Bossy ways: Her presence SUGGESTS that she IS happy. In this context, suggests means "probably means"; it is not acting Bossy. As always, pay close attention to the meaning!

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P.S. Oh, and BTW will some clarify what's wrong with Choice (B) in the question above? Let me know

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GREAT explanation. I want to add
in hypothetical subjective, some cases can be
1. wish. I wish that you came.
2, subjective+modal meaning. I wish he should have passed gmat. I wish he could have passed gmat.

your work is great because you categorize subjective into unreal case and command case.
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Hi AjiteshArun


I chose A over D because the wording "a law passed" made me think that the sentence calls for a command subjunctive. How do we judge with absolute conviction if a command subjunctive is needed or not?
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AjiteshArun IanStewart - is this a fair way to eliminate (A) ?

In (A) -- I thought Comma + Verb'ing (Making) is wrong because what is before the comma IS NOT A clause (On account of a law passed in 1993 is not a clause)

Per my understanding Comma + Verb'ing (Making) works if there is a clause BEFOREHAND
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To answer your query, there is no fixed rule that the "comma + present participle" construction must be preceded by a clause.


Hi ExpertsGlobal5 - Could you give some simple examples of sentences in which "comma + present participle" construction IS NOT preceded by a clause and the sentence works ?
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ExpertsGlobal5 wrote:

To answer your query, there is no fixed rule that the "comma + present participle" construction must be preceded by a clause.


Hi ExpertsGlobal5 - Could you give some simple examples of sentences in which "comma + present participle" construction IS NOT preceded by a clause and the sentence works ?


Hello jabhatta2,

We hope this finds you well.

Please consider this sentence as an example - "John, feeling cold, decided to order pizza."

We hope this helps.
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Why (E) is not correct, since "Being" can modifies a Law ?
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Can anyone please help me to understand that generally the rule says to use Because of + noun form
But in option 4, I believe Because of is followed by Clause

Thanks in advance.
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Can anyone please help me to understand that generally the rule says to use Because of + noun form
But in option 4, I believe Because of is followed by Clause

Thanks in advance.

Hi sagarpatelceo,

The fourth option does not use a subject-verb combination after because of. Making is not a "complete" verb (an -ing can never be a complete verb on its own), and hold is part of the infinitive to hold (infinitives are also not complete verbs). Finally, passed as it is used here is also not a complete verb. Instead, it's a participle modifier, a shorter way to say that was passed.
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sagarpatelceo wrote:
Can anyone please help me to understand that generally the rule says to use Because of + noun form
But in option 4, I believe Because of is followed by Clause

Thanks in advance.


Hello sagarpatelceo,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, here "making" is not an active verb, but a present participle ("verb+ing") that acts as a modifier upon the noun "law"; thus, "Because of" is not followed by a clause; it is followed by the noun phrase "a law", which is in turn modified by a present participle.

We hope this helps.
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