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thanks Mikemcgarry for your detail analysis of those 2 options. unfortunately, the question is from gmatprep question pack 1. initially, i also puzzled when i first saw the argument. if i were tv executive, i would not bother whether a "real doctor" or "actor" plays the role. on moral ground, as you mention, then the argument seems legit. but i did not identify any moral logic in the argument.

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Dear alchemist009,

I'm happy to help with this. :-)

BTW, you specify no source, but this appears to be copied from somewhere. What is the source?

The drug manufacturer is arguing against the TV network's ban on its advertisement. It would seem that reason for the ban may be giving the false impression that a doctor is recommending the cough syrup. The drug manufacturer suggests that the audience will already know it's an actor playing this doctor.

The TV executive counters --- if they can tell he's an actor, why have him in the ad at all? It's a contradiction --- why have a "doctor" in the ad for his presume credibility if everyone is going to see that he's not really a doctor, just an actor playing a doctor?

You simply indicated an incorrect answer of (E) and the OA of (A), so I will just discuss only those two.

Which of the following is an argumentative strategy used by the television in response to the drug manufacturer?
(A) Indicated that the reason the drug manufacturer offers for relaxing the guideline conflicts with the manufacturer's presumed motive for presenting the image of a physician in the advertisement.


This gets at the very heart of the contradiction that the TV exec is pointing out. Presumably, the drug manufacturer wants a "doctor" in the ad to give credibility to his recommendation. But if, as the drug manufacturer suggests, most of the audience will realize it's not a doctor, then of course what that actor/doctor says loses most of its credibility. That's the big contradiction that the TV exec points outs. This is why (A) is correct.

(E) Questioning the ability of drug manufacturer to make any sweeping generalization about what many different members of the audience may think.

It's true that the drug manufacturer makes a sweeping generalization about the audience, but the TV exec doesn't argue against that in the least. The TV exec simply accepts that at face value, saying, "If that's true, then ..." The TV exec doesn't call that sweeping generalization into question at all --- rather, he says "Let's assume that sweeping generalization is true. Then, wouldn't such-and-such be true?" Rather than calling the sweeping generalization into question, the TV exec turns it around and makes his part and parcel of his counter-argument. This is why (E) is incorrect.

BTW, I don't know the source, but I don't really like this as a GMAT CR question. Among other things, all the CR questions in the GMAT OG, in addition to having a firm logical basis, are also grounded in what actually takes place in the real world. By contrast, the conversation of this CR question has to be taking place in some imaginary fantasy world. In our real world, having actors play doctors and thereby bamboozle the general public is absolutely standard practice throughout drug advertising --- it's not even the least bit controversial. The practice is essentially universal, and has never been challenged legally in any serious way. The only reason a TV executive would possible object would be moral --- I would argue that the TV executive who turns down a lucrative advertising contract for purely moral reasons is an entity slightly more fictional than Tinkerbell and the Tooth Fairy.

Does all this make sense?

Mike :-)

Hi Mike,

Can you explain what is the meaning of "Therefore networks should relax their guidelines to permit our company to broadcast this advertisement".
What does manufacturer want to do with relaxed guidelines?
I don't get how is he contradicting himself. Manufacturer says - i don't want an actor - so he asks for relaxed guidelines (to do what?) and how does this contradict his earlier statement?
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Can you explain what is the meaning of "Therefore networks should relax their guidelines to permit our company to broadcast this advertisement".
What does manufacturer want to do with relaxed guidelines?
I don't get how is he contradicting himself. Manufacturer says - i don't want an actor - so he asks for relaxed guidelines (to do what?) and how does this contradict his earlier statement?
Dear cumulonimbus,
I'm happy to help. :-) Here's the prompt in which that sentence appears.
Drug manufacturer: Television audiences are sure to realize that the "physician" recommending our brand of cough syrup in our advertisement is actually an actor playing a role. Hence they will not place undue trust in the advice given by this actor. Therefore, networks should relax their guidelines to permit our company to broadcast this advertisement.
Television executive: If the audience can tell that the actor is not a physician, then your advertisement need not have a physician figure recommending your product.

This is a conversation between a "drug manufacturer", someone who works at a drug company and who wants to run an advertisement, a TV commercial, for a drug that they make, and a "television executive", someone who decides what TV commercials get to go on the air and which ones will be rejected. We can infer that these two people disagree on a certain advertisement. The drug people made a commercial for some drug they manufacture, and this drug features an actor playing a physician (a wildly common phenomenon on American TV). The drug people made this commercial and obviously want to see it go on the air. Apparently, the TV executive has refused to air the commercial, and apparently he is citing some kind of guidelines that his company, the TV network, has about which commercials are allows and which aren't allowed. The drug company representative opposes this decision, and one of the ways he is challenging it is by questioning the guidelines by which the company made that decision. The drug representative guy does not say "you shouldn't have guidelines" or "your guidelines are wrong", because those things would be considered rude. Instead, he suggests the TV network should relax their guideline.

Think of it this way. Some places have very strict guidelines --- tight rules, with no exceptions, no consideration for any extenuating circumstances. (The IRS, the INS, the TSA all tend to operate this way.) Other places have rules or guidelines, the rules or guidelines are looser ---they allow for exceptions. Some parents have stricter, tighter rules for their kids, while other parents are very loose with rules. To relax rules or guidelines means to go from a very tight interpretation, one that allows absolutely no exceptions, to a looser interpretation, one that allows exceptions.

The drug manufacturer knows the guideline the TV executive follows, but is asking him to interpret those guideline in a looser way, to make the exception of allowing his company's commercial, the drug commercial with the physician-actor, on the air.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)
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Hi Mike,

Isnt option E also wrong because it says that tv executive questions the ability of drug manufacturer, but no where in the stimulus tv executive discusses/contends the ability of drug manufacturer?
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Can you explain what is the meaning of "Therefore networks should relax their guidelines to permit our company to broadcast this advertisement".
What does manufacturer want to do with relaxed guidelines?
I don't get how is he contradicting himself. Manufacturer says - i don't want an actor - so he asks for relaxed guidelines (to do what?) and how does this contradict his earlier statement?
Dear cumulonimbus,
I'm happy to help. :-) Here's the prompt in which that sentence appears.
Drug manufacturer: Television audiences are sure to realize that the "physician" recommending our brand of cough syrup in our advertisement is actually an actor playing a role. Hence they will not place undue trust in the advice given by this actor. Therefore, networks should relax their guidelines to permit our company to broadcast this advertisement.
Television executive: If the audience can tell that the actor is not a physician, then your advertisement need not have a physician figure recommending your product.

This is a conversation between a "drug manufacturer", someone who works at a drug company and who wants to run an advertisement, a TV commercial, for a drug that they make, and a "television executive", someone who decides what TV commercials get to go on the air and which ones will be rejected. We can infer that these two people disagree on a certain advertisement. The drug people made a commercial for some drug they manufacture, and this drug features an actor playing a physician (a wildly common phenomenon on American TV). The drug people made this commercial and obviously want to see it go on the air. Apparently, the TV executive has refused to air the commercial, and apparently he is citing some kind of guidelines that his company, the TV network, has about which commercials are allows and which aren't allowed. The drug company representative opposes this decision, and one of the ways he is challenging it is by questioning the guidelines by which the company made that decision. The drug representative guy does not say "you shouldn't have guidelines" or "your guidelines are wrong", because those things would be considered rude. Instead, he suggests the TV network should relax their guideline.

Think of it this way. Some places have very strict guidelines --- tight rules, with no exceptions, no consideration for any extenuating circumstances. (The IRS, the INS, the TSA all tend to operate this way.) Other places have rules or guidelines, the rules or guidelines are looser ---they allow for exceptions. Some parents have stricter, tighter rules for their kids, while other parents are very loose with rules. To relax rules or guidelines means to go from a very tight interpretation, one that allows absolutely no exceptions, to a looser interpretation, one that allows exceptions.

The drug manufacturer knows the guideline the TV executive follows, but is asking him to interpret those guideline in a looser way, to make the exception of allowing his company's commercial, the drug commercial with the physician-actor, on the air.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)

Thanks Mike,

What I thought was completely opposite of this. I thought that TV networks create advertisements for its customers like for the drug manufacturer in this case. That, here network has already made an advertisement for the drug manufacturer with an actor playing a doctor in it. Manufacturer wants this advertisement to have some credibility and wants a real doctor in it and in a way so that viewers know that it is a real doctor.
Here is where my confusion was, that by asking to relax guidelines what does the manufacturer want to do.

So I just couldn't get how the manufacturer was contradicting himself.

Now as you have explained, it is the manufacturer which created these advertisements and thus it is now clear why he was contradicting himself.

But doesn't this mean we have to have a correct understanding of how things work in real life before we could answer questions like these. For me this option did not make sense because I didn't know what actually happens.
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Isnt option E also wrong because it says that tv executive questions the ability of drug manufacturer, but no where in the stimulus tv executive discusses/contends the ability of drug manufacturer?
Actually, (E) is wrong for a variety of reasons. What you cite is a valid reason. It's less important to enumerate all the reasons why it is wrong, and just recognize that it is wrong.
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[quote="PiyushK"]Drug manufacturer: Television audiences are sure to realize that the "physician" recommending our brand of cough syrup in our advertisement is actually an actor playing a role. Hence they will not place undue trust in the advice given by this actor. Therefore, networks should relax their guidelines to permit our company to broadcast this advertisement.

Television executive: If the audience can tell that the actor is not a physician, then your advertisement need not have a physician figure recommending your product.

Which of the following is an argumentative strategy used by the television executive in response to the drug manufacturer?

A. Indicating that the reason the drug manufacturer offers for relaxing the guidelines conflicts with the manufacturer's presumed motive for presenting the image of a physician in the advertisement. -The drug manufacturer indeed claims for relaxing guidelines.

B. Asserting that the drug manufacturer's expressed desire to broadcast the advertisement is motivated by self-interest rather than by genuine interest in the good of the audience. --Insufficient Information

C. Invoking subjective opinions concerning audience reaction to television advertisements as if those opinions constituted objective evidence.-- THis is clear Out of scope

D. Pointing out that the goals of the drug manufacturer's company differ from those of television networks.-- Goals of the companies aren't compared

E. Questioning the ability of the drug manufacturer to make any sweeping generalization about what the many different members of the audience may think.--Out of scope



IMO A
Analysis :- Drug manufacturer claims that audiences will be able recognize that the "physician" as an "actor"
and thus audience will not place undue trust in the advice given by this "actor".Hence,guidelines should be relaxed .
Television executive claims that, if Audiences can tell that the "physician" is an actor and not a physician,
then the ad doesn't need to have a "physician" in it.
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Drug manufacturer: Television audiences are sure to realize that the "physician" recommending our brand of cough syrup in our advertisement is actually an actor playing a role. Hence they will not place undue trust in the advice given by this actor. Therefore, networks should relax their guidelines to permit our company to broadcast this advertisement.

what can be inferred: TV audiences will place undue trust in the advice given by a real physician.
and TV audience can discern whether the person appear in the advertisement is a doctor


Television executive: If the audience can tell that the actor is not a physician, then your advertisement need not have a physician figure recommending your product.

what can be inferred: if the audience can discern the actor is not physician, they can discern whether to trust your product, even without the physician suggestion.
so it seems that the advertiser executive implicitly is not satisfied with the reason behind the drug manufacturer's reasoning for relaxing the network guidelines
Which of the following is an argumentative strategy used by the television executive in response to the drug manufacturer?

A. Indicating that the reason the drug manufacturer offers for relaxing the guidelines conflicts with the manufacturer's presumed motive for presenting the image of a physician in the advertisement.

B. Asserting that the drug manufacturer's expressed desire to broadcast the advertisement is motivated by self-interest rather than by genuine interest in the good of the audience.
there is no clue in the argument to indicate that the manufacturer is seeking self-interest rather than the good of audience.
they are arguing about the ability of TV audience to realize the truth of the advertisement, and whether the manufacturer's claim is match with his/her intended meaning.

C. Invoking subjective opinions concerning audience reaction to television advertisements as if those opinions constituted objective evidence.
nowhere in the argument is talked about the subjective or objective nature of the opinions

D. Pointing out that the goals of the drug manufacturer's company differ from those of television networks.
goals of both are attracting the TV audience and convincing them to trust the drug manufacturer's product

E. Questioning the ability of the drug manufacturer to make any sweeping generalization about what the many different members of the audience may think.
the manufacturer is not intending to make generalization about the audience attitudes, but he/she is intended to convince the audience
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Drug manufacturer: Television audiences are sure to realize that the "physician" recommending our brand of cough syrup in our advertisement is actually an actor playing a role. Hence they will not place undue trust in the advice given by this actor. Therefore, networks should relax their guidelines to permit our company to broadcast this advertisement.

Television executive: If the audience can tell that the actor is not a physician, then your advertisement need not have a physician figure recommending your product.


Which of the following is an argumentative strategy used by the television executive in response to the drug manufacturer?
A. Indicating that the reason the drug manufacturer offers for relaxing the guidelines conflicts with the manufacturer's presumed motive for presenting the image of a physician in the advertisement.It does exactly that

B. Asserting that the drug manufacturer's expressed desire to broadcast the advertisement is motivated by self-interest rather than by genuine interest in the good of the audience. Self interest is no where indicated

C. Invoking subjective opinions concerning audience reaction to television advertisements as if those opinions constituted objective evidence. There is no opinion about the audience. On the contrary, audience is used as a goal around which the refuting is done.

D. Pointing out that the goals of the drug manufacturer's company differ from those of television networks.Nope. Goals are nowhere indicated in the argument.

E. Questioning the ability of the drug manufacturer to make any sweeping generalization about what the many different members of the audience may think. Ability is not called into question
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Drug manufacturer: Television audiences are sure to realize that the "physician" recommending our brand of cough syrup in our advertisement is actually an actor playing a role. Hence they will not place undue trust in the advice given by this actor. Therefore, networks should relax their guidelines to permit our company to broadcast this advertisement.

Television executive: If the audience can tell that the actor is not a physician, then your advertisement need not have a physician figure recommending your product.


Which of the following is an argumentative strategy used by the television executive in response to the drug manufacturer?

A. Indicating that the reason the drug manufacturer offers for relaxing the guidelines conflicts with the manufacturer's presumed motive for presenting the image of a physician in the advertisement.

B. Asserting that the drug manufacturer's expressed desire to broadcast the advertisement is motivated by self-interest rather than by genuine interest in the good of the audience.

C. Invoking subjective opinions concerning audience reaction to television advertisements as if those opinions constituted objective evidence.

D. Pointing out that the goals of the drug manufacturer's company differ from those of television networks.

E. Questioning the ability of the drug manufacturer to make any sweeping generalization about what the many different members of the audience may think.


Very nice question. I chose option A as follows:-

Option A:- Correct answer choice - Straight away the premise mentioned by the drug manufacturer.

Option B:- This was close though as the drug manufacturer had a self - interest. But this option does not show that it was not a way in which the television executive argumented.

Option C:- Out of scope - No subjective/objective evidences mentioned in the passage.

Option D:- Out of Scope - No television network's needs were mentioned in the passage.

Option E:- Out of Scope - The television executive does not question anything of the drug manufacturer.

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Drug manufacturer: Television audiences are sure to realize that the "physician" recommending our brand of cough syrup in our advertisement is actually an actor playing a role. Hence they will not place undue trust in the advice given by this actor. Therefore, networks should relax their guidelines to permit our company to broadcast this advertisement.

Television executive: If the audience can tell that the actor is not a physician, then your advertisement need not have a physician figure recommending your product.

Analysis :
The Drug maker's reasoning : Audience will be able to distinguish between role played as doctor and actual profession as Actor. So we can relax the guideline

TV Executive reasoning : Attack the author's basic assumption that if Audience able to distinguish than how the advertisement will be successful

So TV executive attack the very basic reasoning of the Drug manufacturer

Which of the following is an argumentative strategy used by the television executive in response to the drug manufacturer?
A. Indicating that the reason the drug manufacturer offers for relaxing the guidelines conflicts with the manufacturer's presumed motive for presenting the image of a physician in the advertisement.

This is the correct as answer as what discussed in the analysis segment

B. Asserting that the drug manufacturer's expressed desire to broadcast the advertisement is motivated by self-interest rather than by genuine interest in the good of the audience.

TV Executive does not talk about any thing related to motive but rather about the reasoning Drug manufacturer has given

C. Invoking subjective opinions concerning audience reaction to television advertisements as if those opinions constituted objective evidence.

out of scope never mentioned opinions concerning audience

D. Pointing out that the goals of the drug manufacturer's company differ from those of television networks.
out of scope goals of the company never mentioned

E. Questioning the ability of the drug manufacturer to make any sweeping generalization about what the many different members of the audience may think.

This is interesting , this optioned attack the Drug manufacturer assumption that audience in general able to understand the role play by the actor , but the Television executive never mentioned that flaw.
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Drug manufacturer: Television audiences are sure to realize that the "physician" recommending our brand of cough syrup in our advertisement is actually an actor playing a role. Hence they will not place undue trust in the advice given by this actor.
Therefore, networks should relax their guidelines to permit our company to broadcast this advertisement.

Television executive: If the audience can tell that the actor is not a physician, then your advertisement need not have a physician figure recommending your product.

Which of the following is an argumentative strategy used by the television executive in response to the drug manufacturer?
TE counters DM argument saying that if audiences can make the differnce between the actor and the phyysian recommending the product then they can also evaluvate the advertise/claim abt the mentioned product on their own.
So basically TE is questioning the manufacturer's assumption to place the "physician" recommending the product in advertisement.

A. Indicating that the reason the drug manufacturer offers for relaxing the guidelines conflicts with the manufacturer's presumed motive for presenting the image of a physician in the advertisement.
>> Correct.As mentioned above.

B. Asserting that the drug manufacturer's expressed desire to broadcast the advertisement is motivated by self-interest rather than by genuine interest in the good of the audience.
>>TE argument doesnt make any such claims.

C. Invoking subjective opinions concerning audience reaction to television advertisements as if those opinions constituted objective evidence.
>> Too wordy to confuse ,specially during exam :). Yes TE argument involves an opinion (not opinions).A makes clear & direct statement compared to C.

D. Pointing out that the goals of the drug manufacturer's company differ from those of television networks.
>> No proof of that.

E. Questioning the ability of the drug manufacturer to make any sweeping generalization about what the many different members of the audience may think.
>> Same as D
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Drug manufacturer: Television audiences are sure to realize that the "physician" recommending our brand of cough syrup in our advertisement is actually an actor playing a role. Hence they will not place undue trust in the advice given by this actor. Therefore, networks should relax their guidelines to permit our company to broadcast this advertisement.

Television executive: If the audience can tell that the actor is not a physician, then your advertisement need not have a physician figure recommending your product.

Which of the following is an argumentative strategy used by the television executive in response to the drug manufacturer?

A) Indicating that the reason the drug manufacturer offers for relaxing the guidelines conflicts with the manufacturer's presumed motive for presenting the image of a physician in the advertisement.
B) Asserting that the drug manufacturer's expressed desire to broadcast the advertisement is motivated by self-interest rather than by genuine interest in the good of the audience
C) Invoking subjective opinions concerning audience reaction to television advertisements as if those opinions constituted objective evidence.
D) Pointing out that the goals of the drug manufacturer's company differ from those of television networks.
E) Questioning the ability of the drug manufacturer to make any sweeping generalization about what the many different members of the audience may think.
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Hand-picked collection of RCs for those who are aiming 700++

GMATPrep RCs : Try them back to back / Post your TIME per RC and ANSWER on respective thread.

Let us see who is MASTERO of RC.

while-the-most-abundant-and-dominant-species-within-a-142839.html
anthropologists-once-thought-that-the-ancestors-of-modern-124991.html
woodrow-wilson-was-referring-to-the-liberal-idea-of-the-125787.html
modern-manufacturers-who-need-reliable-sources-of-materials-144471.html

One should take 38-45 min to complete them. If not then practice practice practice ... 4 RCs daily to command tricks and methods. One can definitely improve in RC by practicing.


Hi Piyush,
The part in Verbal where i struggle, not the understanding part but the timing part, is the reading comprehension. Are there any tricks that can be followed to solve RC questions in a jiffy. please do help me out here, if i can win over the time factor here, most of my timing management will be resolved.

Hi Arnabs, As such there are many published/recommended methods of reading a passage fast, but I feel that one must read entire passage (specially short and medium size) before answering question. For long passages you can skip details and come back later as per the requirement. if you want to learn such method, you can refer following Ron's videos.

RC_Thursdays With Ron - August 19 2010
RC_Thursdays With Ron - September 9 2010
RC_Main_Idea_Thursdays With Ron - January 6, 2011
Thursdays with Ron July 10, 2014

Generally GMAT gives balanced question set in which one can easily manage time and pace. Therefore, you should take gmatprep mocks and see how you are performing.
If you lack concentration or focus, you can try to improve; few people drink green tea or red bull -- I prefer green tea. A better focus can help you read actively and fast.

Reading comprehension is an ability which evolves with time, and really there are no shortcuts available. try to work on brain chemistry : do yoga such as breathing exercise to oxygenate brain or meditation.

Last but not least read allot -- work on vocabulary etc.
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Hand-picked collection of RCs for those who are aiming 700++

GMATPrep RCs : Try them back to back / Post your TIME per RC and ANSWER on respective thread.

Let us see who is MASTERO of RC.

while-the-most-abundant-and-dominant-species-within-a-142839.html
anthropologists-once-thought-that-the-ancestors-of-modern-124991.html
woodrow-wilson-was-referring-to-the-liberal-idea-of-the-125787.html
modern-manufacturers-who-need-reliable-sources-of-materials-144471.html

One should take 38-45 min to complete them. If not then practice practice practice ... 4 RCs daily to command tricks and methods. One can definitely improve in RC by practicing.


Hi Piyush,
The part in Verbal where i struggle, not the understanding part but the timing part, is the reading comprehension. Are there any tricks that can be followed to solve RC questions in a jiffy. please do help me out here, if i can win over the time factor here, most of my timing management will be resolved.

Hi Arnabs, As such there are many published/recommended methods of reading a passage fast, but I feel that one must read entire passage (specially short and medium size) before answering question. For long passages you can skip details and come back later as per the requirement. if you want to learn such method, you can refer following Ron's videos.

RC_Thursdays With Ron - August 19 2010
RC_Thursdays With Ron - September 9 2010
RC_Main_Idea_Thursdays With Ron - January 6, 2011
Thursdays with Ron July 10, 2014

Generally GMAT gives balanced question set in which one can easily manage time and pace. Therefore, you should take gmatprep mocks and see how you are performing.
If you lack concentration or focus, you can try to improve; few people drink green tea or red bull -- I prefer green tea. A better focus can help you read actively and fast.

Reading comprehension is an ability which evolves with time, and really there are no shortcuts available. try to work on brain chemistry : do yoga such as breathing exercise to oxygenate brain or meditation.

Last but not least read allot -- work on vocabulary etc.


thanks piyush, for the tips.
Like i said, understanding has never been a problem.
As for GMAT, since time is essence, i need to practice on that only with respect to comprehensions. I will check out the strategies recommended by Ron and get back to you in case of further queries.
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