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Hi Bunuel

Can we solve this using weighted average approach? I am actually stuck at some point: so we derive that the faster machine B takes 40 minutes to complete the job. That is 20 minutes faster (can we come to solution from here somehow given that in 20 minutes B will print 100 pages more) that A alone.

Then I draw the weighted average line and get that: a/b = 16/36 = 4/9. I am trying to plug in further a/(a+5) = 9/4. But I dont get the answer and get stuck. Can you help please?
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Hi Bunuel

Can we solve this using weighted average approach? I am actually stuck at some point: so we derive that the faster machine B takes 40 minutes to complete the job. That is 20 minutes faster (can we come to solution from here somehow given that in 20 minutes B will print 100 pages more) that A alone.

Then I draw the weighted average line and get that: a/b = 16/36 = 4/9. I am trying to plug in further a/(a+5) = 9/4. But I dont get the answer and get stuck. Can you help please?


hi,
I am not sure if it can be done by weighted average, as it is more to do with allegations and mixture and the averages..
It is not the case here..

I'll just tell you two methods here..

1) both finish the work in 24 minutes..
so A does 24/60=2/5 work ..
therefore B does 1-2/5=3/5 work..

Also in 24 minutes B can print 5*24=120 pages..
so 120=(3/5-2/5) of total work..
so 1/5 of total work = 120..
or total work = 600 pages..

2) 1/a + 1/b = 1/24..
1/60 + 1/b = 1/24..
b=40 minutes..
total work = 24(A+B)=24(A+A+5)=48A+120..
A's work individually= 60A..
so 60A=48A+120..
A=10..
so total pages = 60A=600..


thanks! but we do not need this calculation in the 2nd method, do we?

2) 1/a + 1/b = 1/24..
1/60 + 1/b = 1/24..
b=40 minutes..
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Hi Bunuel

Can we solve this using weighted average approach? I am actually stuck at some point: so we derive that the faster machine B takes 40 minutes to complete the job. That is 20 minutes faster (can we come to solution from here somehow given that in 20 minutes B will print 100 pages more) that A alone.

Then I draw the weighted average line and get that: a/b = 16/36 = 4/9. I am trying to plug in further a/(a+5) = 9/4. But I dont get the answer and get stuck. Can you help please?


hi,
I am not sure if it can be done by weighted average, as it is more to do with allegations and mixture and the averages..
It is not the case here..

I'll just tell you two methods here..

1) both finish the work in 24 minutes..
so A does 24/60=2/5 work ..
therefore B does 1-2/5=3/5 work..

Also in 24 minutes B can print 5*24=120 pages..
so 120=(3/5-2/5) of total work..
so 1/5 of total work = 120..
or total work = 600 pages..

2) 1/a + 1/b = 1/24..
1/60 + 1/b = 1/24..
b=40 minutes..
total work = 24(A+B)=24(A+A+5)=48A+120..
A's work individually= 60A..
so 60A=48A+120..
A=10..
so total pages = 60A=600..


thanks! but we do not need this calculation in the 2nd method, do we?

2) 1/a + 1/b = 1/24..
1/60 + 1/b = 1/24..
b=40 minutes..


yeah, i intuitively wanted to solve this way! thanks
1) both finish the work in 24 minutes..
so A does 24/60=2/5 work ..
therefore B does 1-2/5=3/5 work..
Also in 24 minutes B can print 5*24=120 pages..
so 120=(3/5-2/5) of total work..
so 1/5 of total work = 120..
or total work = 600 pages..


please confirm whether my reasoning is right: A takes 60 min alone and B - 40 mins. Hence we can see how their productivity relates to each other: 40/60 = 2/3. This means taken together A performs 2/5 of the job and B - 3/5. Therefore the difference in the work done between A and B is simply 1/5.

1/5 w = 120 pages. Hence full work = 600!
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shasadou wrote:
chetan2u wrote:
shasadou wrote:
Hi Bunuel

Can we solve this using weighted average approach? I am actually stuck at some point: so we derive that the faster machine B takes 40 minutes to complete the job. That is 20 minutes faster (can we come to solution from here somehow given that in 20 minutes B will print 100 pages more) that A alone.

Then I draw the weighted average line and get that: a/b = 16/36 = 4/9. I am trying to plug in further a/(a+5) = 9/4. But I dont get the answer and get stuck. Can you help please?


hi,
I am not sure if it can be done by weighted average, as it is more to do with allegations and mixture and the averages..
It is not the case here..

I'll just tell you two methods here..

1) both finish the work in 24 minutes..
so A does 24/60=2/5 work ..
therefore B does 1-2/5=3/5 work..

Also in 24 minutes B can print 5*24=120 pages..
so 120=(3/5-2/5) of total work..
so 1/5 of total work = 120..
or total work = 600 pages..

2) 1/a + 1/b = 1/24..
1/60 + 1/b = 1/24..
b=40 minutes..
total work = 24(A+B)=24(A+A+5)=48A+120..
A's work individually= 60A..
so 60A=48A+120..
A=10..
so total pages = 60A=600..


thanks! but we do not need this calculation in the 2nd method, do we?

2) 1/a + 1/b = 1/24..
1/60 + 1/b = 1/24..
b=40 minutes..


Hi,
yes you are right .
it is not required here. but can be used in another method..
B does in 40 min and A in 60 min..
In these 40 minutes B does 5*40=200 more than A..
A completes these 200 in next 20 minutes,
so speed =200 in 20= 10 in 1 min...
in 60 minutes = 10*60=600..
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It requires two steps.
1. Calculate the number of hours B involves in finishing the task
2. Equate the rates of both A and B w.r.t total job or total pages in this case

Step 1 :
We all know

1/A + 1/B = 1/24 min
=> 1/60 + 1/B = 1/24 with this we get B = 40 mins

Step 2:

It is said that B prints 5 pages more than A. And we know rate = jobs /time

So let "j" be the total number of pages to be printed.
Then the (rate of ) B = ( rate of ) A + 5
=> j /40 = j /60 + 5
calculating for j we get 600.
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