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Unnecessary usage of perfect tense is the key to this problem.

Proposal had been signed in past perfect tense and it makes sense only when 2 events of past are compared. Here it seems to be comparing with the past event Friday evening which makes no sense . Hence A, C and D are out

In B , having had looks too suspicious to be correct. The verb tense makes no sense at all. We can get rid of this too

Only flawless answer imo is E

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By Friday evening, the proposal had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them has left messages on the page.

(A) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them has

(B) was signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them having had

(C) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of whom have

(D) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of whom

(E) was signed by over 1000 supporters, and many of them


(A) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them has - Them-has incorrect

(B) was signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them having had Them having had - sounds weird + tense is incorrect

(C) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of whom have InCorrect, many of whom correctly refers to supporters (in object). but Tense must be in Past (Leaving messages during the action of signing) +Past perfect progressive (Action of signing)

(D) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of whom Correct rectifies the error in C

(E) was signed by over 1000 supporters, and many of themWas signed - simple past is incorrect
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By Friday evening, the proposal had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them has left messages on the page.

(A) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them has

(B) was signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them having had

(C) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of whom have

(D) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of whom

(E) was signed by over 1000 supporters, and many of them



(A) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them has
subject verb error

(B) was signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them having had
past perfect is required ......having had is also wrong

(C) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of whom have
the later past event can be expressed by using a date or another time reference
by(time refrence), is the indication to use past perfect ( used to express the continued effect by still later past time)
ex -By 1945, the United States HAD BEEN at war for several years
................correct subject... correct verb

had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of whom have
highlighted part is a subgroup modifier describing majority of 1000 supporters
(correct)

(D) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of whom (the verb is required over here)

(E) was signed by over 1000 supporters, and many of them

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By Friday evening, the proposal had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them has left messages on the page.


Sentence Structure
Subject - Verb:
    By Friday evening, the proposal was signed by over 1000 supporters, and
    many of them( supporters ) left messages on the page.

Issues:
    The two independent clauses MUST be connected by -
    Either: comma(,) + one of the F.A.N.B.O.Y.S.
    Or: semi-colon(;)
    The flowers are beautiful, they brighten the room. (Incorrect)
      A, B, C and D - Structurally flawed( comma-splice)


Answer choice analysis:
    (A) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them has
      - Structurally flawed( comma-splice)

    (B) was signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them having had
      - Structurally flawed( comma-splice)

    (C) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of whom have
      - Structurally flawed( comma-splice)

    (D) had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of whom
      - Structurally flawed( comma-splice)

    (E) was signed by over 1000 supporters, and many of them
      E is the winner!

Declaration:
    E is NOT the correct answer.
    Issue analysis:
      By the time X, Y indicates a time shift. At least one verb must shift to reflect that time shift.
        Ex: By the time World War II ended, the nuclear-fission technology had evolved strikingly.
      -----Evolution of the nuclear-fission technology(Before action) ------ | -------the ending of World War II (After action)--------
    B and E - Time shift error
      D is CORRECT answer.

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• non-essential relative clauses

A relative pronoun such as who often follows a comma and modifies a previous noun but does not create another independent clause:
She was captivated by a relatively new musical artist, who was both gifted and underrated.
WHO refers to the artist and tells us more about him.

Non-essential relative clauses (e.g. who-clauses set off by commas) can be introduced by expressions such as some of or many of followed by the relative pronoun.
When we use prepositions such as OF, we use the relative pronoun in the objective case (i.e., it can be an object of a preposition: me, him, her, us, them, whom)

She was captivated by a quite a few relatively new musical artists, many of whom were both gifted and underrated.
Whom refers to the artists.

Relative clauses are not independent clauses, so they do not create comma splice problems in this case.

Options C and D correctly use a non-essential relative clause (though C gets the verb wrong).

-- Many of whom left suggestions.
-- NOT a complete sentence. (Good. We do not want a complete sentence. Then we would have a comma splice.)
-- Whom is an OBJECT pronoun.
The object of a preposition can NEVER be the subject of a clause and thus cannot create a independent clause.



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Hi generis

I have one doubt. As stated in the official explanation by you that object of a pronoun can never be subject of a clause and hence cannot create an independent clause. If "them" is an object pronoun and so is "whom" then why is it that many of whom doesnt create a comma splice but many of them does so?

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In the given Question there are two Takeaways.-
1. Two events in Past require usage of had been for the former event.
2. Use of relative pronoun whom for supporters.
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I have one doubt. As stated in the official explanation by generis that object of a pronoun can never be subject of a clause and hence cannot create an independent clause. If "them" is an object pronoun and so is "whom" then why is it that many of whom doesnt create a comma splice but many of them does so?

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why is it that many of whom doesnt create a comma splice but many of them does so?


The short answer is that whom is a relative pronoun that creates a dependent clause whereas them is a personal pronoun that creates a clause when paired with a verb—an independent clause.

• The two pronouns work differently.

Many of them is a noun. When you pair it with a verb, it creates a sentence.
Many of whom is a noun modifier. When you pair it with a verb, it continues to be a noun modifier.

• recognize which "subgroup modifier" creates a sentence

You should be able to see that one pronoun creates a complete sentence and the other does not.

I really want to avoid jargon.
I am hoping that you will simply "see" that "them" creates a full sentence.)

• only one of these constructions is a sentence

Many of them left messages on the page. ←← This one is a sentence.

Many of whom left messages on the page. ←← This one is not a sentence.

Many of them is a noun. When the noun phrase gets paired with a verb, voila, we have a sentence.
Examples:
(my new friends) Many of them enjoy my curiosity.
(poets) Many of them transform anguish into art.
(cars) Many of them now have blue tooth capabilities.

Many of whom is a noun modifier. The phrase takes the verb left but creates a dependent clause that modifies supporters. THat modifier is not an independent clause.

These examples are not sentences.
Wrong: (my new friends) Many of whom enjoy my curiosity.
Wrong: (poets) Many of whom transform anguish into art.
Wrong: (cars) Many of which now have blue tooth capabilities.

I will give you some resources, but I am about to give advice I almost never give:
Memorize three correct ways and four wrong ways to write these constructions.

• The ways to use MANY OF WHOM and MANY OF THEM

If you want to talk about a subgroup, use one of these three constructions:

1) Many berries grow here, some of which are poisonous but not deadly.
→ → some of which takes a verb

2) Many berries grow here, some of them poisonous but not deadly.
→ → some of them does NOT take a verb

Many berries grow here, SOME poisonous but not deadly.
→ → some does NOT take a verb.

These ones are wrong:

Many berries grow here, of which some are poisonous but not deadly. :x
Many berries grow here, some of them are poisonous but not deadly. :x [THE SITUATION IN THIS QUESTION]
Many berries grow here, some of them which are poisonous but not deadly. :x
Many berries grow here, some of which poisonous but not deadly. (needs a verb) :x

Those examples are inspired by the attached pages from Manhattan Prep Sentence Correction, 6th edition.

• Resources
If you really want more material, see this post, here, and this page on clauses, here.


BOTTOM LINE
many of them is wrong because it is a noun phrase that creates a sentence.

This is a sentence: Many of them left messages on the page.

WRONG:By Friday evening, the proposal had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them left signatures on the page.

CORRECTED: By Friday evening, the proposal had been signed by over 1000 supporters, many of them having left signatures on the page.

many of whom does not create an independent clause. Many of whom is a noun modifier.
Answer D IS CORRECT

SANAM pronoun + OF + WHOM/WHICH? Look for a verb.
SANAM pronoun + OF + THEM? Make sure that there is NOT a verb.

i hope that answer helps.

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In the given Question there are two Takeaways.-
1. Two events in Past require usage of had been for the former event.
2. Use of relative pronoun whom for supporters.

Tushrgupta , #1 is not accurate.

In certain situations, if two events happen in the past and one precedes the other, we use past perfect (had verbED) for the earlier event—as long as we have the later event marked off using simple past or a time marker or the equivalent.

By the time X, Y is a signal that we should use past perfect for the Y events.

But plenty of sentences have two events whose chronology we can discern without the use of past perfect.
The existence of two past events does not automatically require that we use past perfect for the former event.

These sentences are all correct. All would be worse if I used past perfect for earlier event.

Correct: Before Daniel performed the dance, he rehearsed for days.
Correct: After Claire met Alex for coffee, she felt refreshed from the conversation.
Correct: Seven years before Hitler invaded Poland and started WWII, without ever having seen one of the devices, Marian Adam Rejewski, a Pole, reconstructed the German encryption machine called Enigma.
Correct: Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated on April 4, 1968, and people wept bitterly for days.

Certain cue words (such as "By the time X, Y) do indeed signal that usage of past perfect is appropriate.
Many other my other posts discuss other such cues.

The mere coexistence of two past facts, one of which is earlier in time, does not always require that past perfect be used for the earlier event.
Furthermore, certain conditions must be met in order to use past perfect for the former event: we need at least one event rendered in simple past, a time stamp, or some setting that marks off that simple past (such that the earlier event is the "past of the past" and we use past perfect).

Perhaps you meant to include the fact that phrases cue the usage of past perfect and that "by the time X" is among those phrases.
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Options C and D, both are acceptable simply because we don't know if the messages are still there or have been deleted.
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hello. I would like to ask about the question to which I am providing the link. the question uses a subgroup modifier and according to Manhattan gmat, 'many of whom' should be accompanied by a verb after unlike "many of them", which needs no verb. however, in this question they seem to ignore this rule. please explain.
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