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Re: When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which [#permalink] New post   21 Apr 2021, 00:34
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When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of more distant objects.


(A) the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of

(B) the speed that nearby objects move seems faster than for

(C) the speed of nearby objects seems faster than

(D) nearby objects' speeds seem to be faster than those of

(E) nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do



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hey, generis

Could you please help me out with this I seem to have an unpopular opinion on this from the other answers.

When I read the first part, "When viewed from the window of a speeding train" - I immediately asked myself What is that you are viewing from the window and the answer seems to some object/physical thing

And I found option E reasonably mentioned nearby objects. I said Cool.

But then I asked myself, Nearby objects seem to move faster than do far objects

How is it that objects are moving? Are they meant to be moving or shouldn't the idea that they are moving illogical ?

Does this make sense? lmk your thoughts
Thanks.


callmeDP Not sure if the query still persists as it was posted over 4 months ago. If it does, see if this helps :) -

Firstly, there is nothing wrong with the idea of objects moving. Trains, planes, cars, etc are all objects and they move. But more importantly, the option says that the objects seem to be moving. Seem is they key word here as far as logic goes. The sentence doesn't say that the objects are actually moving, they just seem to be moving.
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Re: When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which [#permalink] New post   25 Jun 2021, 01:24
When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of more distant objects.

Comparison Analysis:

(A) the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of

the speed with which nearby objects <--> that (the speed) of more distant objects

(B) the speed that nearby objects move seems faster than for

the speed that nearby objects move --> nearby objects move the speed --> we need some preposition here, such as "with"

(C) the speed of nearby objects seems faster than

the speed of nearby objects <--> more distant objects --> incorrect

(D) nearby objects' speeds seem to be faster than those of

nearby objects' speeds <--> those (speeds) of more distant objects

(E) nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do

nearby objects seem <--> more distant objects do (seem)

Question:

In A and D, do we need to repeat the verb "move" and "seem" or it is common verb for both so it is optional. Can any expert comment. Thanks!
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Re: When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which [#permalink] New post   26 Jun 2021, 02:48
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Adambhau wrote:
When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of more distant objects.

Comparison Analysis:

(A) the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of

the speed with which nearby objects <--> that (the speed) of more distant objects

(B) the speed that nearby objects move seems faster than for

the speed that nearby objects move --> nearby objects move the speed --> we need some preposition here, such as "with"

(C) the speed of nearby objects seems faster than

the speed of nearby objects <--> more distant objects --> incorrect

(D) nearby objects' speeds seem to be faster than those of

nearby objects' speeds <--> those (speeds) of more distant objects

(E) nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do

nearby objects seem <--> more distant objects do (seem)

Question:

In A and D, do we need to repeat the verb "move" and "seem" or it is common verb for both so it is optional. Can any expert comment. Thanks!
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Hi Adambhau,

In options A and D, we are comparing the speed of X to the speed of Y. Hence the use of “that/those of” is correct.
Eg- The surface of Earth is similar to that of Mars.
"move" is not a verb in option A. Moreover, we are not comparing an action but "speed"

In option E, we are comparing the action- move.
Hence we use the verb “do” to replace “move” and make the comparison parallel.
Eg- Cotton materials absorb more water than synthetic materials do.
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When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which [#permalink] New post   18 May 2022, 03:41
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How can speed be faster/slower?
As i understand speed is a numeric quantity and we should use 'greater' instead.
X is faster than Y ; X's Speed is greater than Y's speed.

AjiteshArun, GMATNinja , karishma ,
Can you please explain this?
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When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which [#permalink] New post   18 May 2022, 19:48
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Beingstoic wrote:
How can speed be faster/slower?
As i understand speed is a numeric quantity and we should use 'greater' instead.
X is faster than Y ; X's Speed is greater than Y's speed.

AjiteshArun, GMATNinja , karishma ,
Can you please explain this?

Hi Beingstoic,

That's a good point, and I'm glad the main split in the question is so reliable that we don't need to take a call on whether we can use faster with speed. :)

For what it's worth, greater/faster/higher speed all sound fine to me, but I don't know why faster works with speed. If I had to guess, I'd say that a lot of people use faster speed, and therefore it's okay to use faster with speed (which also means that we can't generalise). It'd be great to see more opinions on this though.
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When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which [#permalink] New post   18 May 2022, 23:43
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Beingstoic wrote:
How can speed be faster/slower?
As i understand speed is a numeric quantity and we should use 'greater' instead.
X is faster than Y ; X's Speed is greater than Y's speed.

I also believe that the use of faster with "speed" is not a great construct.

The only saving grace here is that this aspect is not being tested, since all options use speed in the same context.

Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses this aspect of rates and speed. Have attached the corresponding section of the book, for your reference. Might have to revise this section, based upon this question though :?
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Re: When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which [#permalink] New post   02 Oct 2022, 10:53
The speed can not viewed from the window, so the only option that places nearby objects in the right place is option E.
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Re: When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which [#permalink] New post   02 May 2023, 07:19
daagh wrote:
The first issue is that this is not a comparison question alone, but also a modification question. What is viewed are the nearby objects and not their speed. Hence, A through D is out at first glance itself.

Coming to comparison in E, what are being compared are not the nearby objects with distant objects but rather the action of their seeming movements. When you compare one arm with a word of action, then the other arm has to be matched with another parallel word of action. Hence, 'do' is required

daagh, I have a question. Is the use of "that" in option A correct. Suppose, the option A did not had any modifier issue. In that case, will the use of "that" be correct - as "that" refers to the speed of the moving object. I am just trying to be more critical about pronouns that is why I asking you as I believe your knowledge about pronouns is very good.
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Re: When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which [#permalink] New post   23 Jun 2023, 05:43
Sir/Madam

What is the type of phrase ''When viewed from window" ?

I am unable to fit it into any of the following clauses used to modify Nouns:-

Prepositional Phrase
Verbing or Verbed phrase
Adjective Phrase
Noun Phrase

Please help me Over this!
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Re: When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which [#permalink] New post   28 Aug 2023, 09:48
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In some cases, it's possible to put a verb before its subject. This doesn't always mean that we have to switch them. It just means that there is nothing wrong with it. If you're wondering why the GMAT would do this, well, the people who make the questions probably want to see whether we'll remove such options (and therefore get the question wrong). :)

Another example:
He joined the company, and so did his sister.

We'll need to "whitelist" this sort of usage.



Hi AjiteshArun

Have take a note of it, but just wanted to clarify what does ''do'' in option (E) stand for?
I think ''do'' stands for the whole ''seem to move''(verb phrase ?)

Also, I request you to confirm whether the comparison is okay in option (A). I find it bit off.

The comparison should be between ''speed of nearby objects seems'' AND ''speed of more distance objects seems''
But the comparison is between ''seem'' and ''speed''. Is my understanding correct?

A) the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of
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