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Customers are aware that most of the faults that arise in their mobile phones are due to the excessive exposure of these phones to moisture or water. Accordingly, engineers at Talkit Inc. have developed a water-resistant phone that can stay underwater for at least 30 minutes without any resultant damage to either its hardware or software. However, since the manufacturing cost of the phone is anywhere between 25-30% more than that of an ordinary phone, the phone will be very expensive and as such not be able to find enough customers.

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

A. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion that the argument as a whole disputes; the second is an explanation that counters that conclusion.

B. The first is an observation that the argument disfavors; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.

C. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is a conclusion that is not supported by the first.

D. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is an explanation that the argument favors.

E. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion which the argument as a whole disputes; the second is that conclusion.

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Premise 1: Customers are aware that most of the faults that arise in their mobile phones are due to the excessive exposure of these phones to moisture or water.
This is an observation or a fact known.

Premise 2: Accordingly, engineers at Talkit Inc. have developed a water-resistant phone that can stay underwater for at least 30 minutes without any resultant damage to either its hardware or software.
Further discovery with additional info.

Premise 3: However, since the manufacturing cost of the phone is anywhere between 25-30% more than that of an ordinary phone, the phone will be very expensive and as such not be able to find enough customers.
This contains the conclusion in bold sentence.

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

A. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion that the argument as a whole disputes; the second is an explanation that counters that conclusion.

The second is a conclusion and is not an explanation that counters the conclusion. -false
Argument does not dispute the first bold premise.-false


B. The first is an observation that the argument disfavors; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.

The second is a conclusion or position that argument seeks to establish-true
Argument does not disfavor the first bold premise.-false


C. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is a conclusion that is not supported by the first.

The second is a conclusion but it is not true that it is not supported by first-false
Argument does not dispute the first bold premise.-true


D. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is an explanation that the argument favors.

The second is a conclusion that the argument favors.-true.
Argument does not dispute the first bold premise.-true


E. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion which the argument as a whole disputes; the second is that conclusion.

The second is a conclusion.-true
Argument does not dispute the first bold premise.-false

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IMO, the answer is
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Customers are aware that most of the faults that arise in their mobile phones are due to the excessive exposure of these phones to moisture or water. Accordingly, engineers at Talkit Inc. have developed a water-resistant phone that can stay underwater for at least 30 minutes without any resultant damage to either its hardware or software. However, since the manufacturing cost of the phone is anywhere between 25-30% more than that of an ordinary phone, the phone will be very expensive and as such not be able to find enough customers.

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

A. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion that the argument as a whole disputes; the second is an explanation that counters that conclusion.
- the first part does not support the conclusion and second is not an explanation, but it is the conclusion.

B. The first is an observation that the argument disfavors; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.
- the first is not an argument, it is actually a premise/fact and the conclusion does not disfavor it, also second is the conclusion

C. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is a conclusion that is not supported by the first.
- the first sentence is not disputed and that the second is the a conclusion., but not sure if the second is not supported by first. they are not actually countering each other, hence ruling this out

D. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is an explanation that the argument favors.
- first is an observation that is not disputed and the second is actually a conclusion, not sure if it makes sense to call it an explanation that argument favors, but it is true nevertheless. going with this option.

E. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion which the argument as a whole disputes; the second is that conclusion.
- first is not a reason provided to support the conclusion. ruled out.
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A. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion that the argument as a whole disputes; the second is an explanation that counters that conclusion.

B. The first is an observation that the argument disfavors; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.

C. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is a conclusion that is not supported by the first.

D. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is an explanation that the argument favors.

E. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion which the argument as a whole disputes; the second is that conclusion.


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Narrowed it down to 2 choices, and then made the tough call...

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Real tough question. I found easy to eliminate 3 choices. Two were very close.
Finding the role of each statement is important.
The conclusion can be mentioned statement in the answer choices. I was expecting the conclusion to be notified conclusion in the answer choices but found otherwise. Good to learn this new point.

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Customers are aware that most of the faults that arise in their mobile phones are due to the excessive exposure of these phones to moisture or water. Accordingly, engineers at Talkit Inc. have developed a water-resistant phone that can stay underwater for at least 30 minutes without any resultant damage to either its hardware or software. However, since the manufacturing cost of the phone is anywhere between 25-30% more than that of an ordinary phone, the phone will be very expensive and as such not be able to find enough customers.

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

A. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion that the argument as a whole disputes; the second is an explanation that counters that conclusion.

B. The first is an observation that the argument disfavors; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.

C. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is a conclusion that is not supported by the first.

D. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is an explanation that the argument favors.

E. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion which the argument as a whole disputes; the second is that conclusion.

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In my opinion 2nd bold face is conclusion. So we have two options only. Argument is not supporting the first bold face, so we have only one remaining.

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Not very happy with the way the 2nd BF is described in the answer. But picked it up as it was the best option of all.

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I think that the answer is C.

Second is the conclusion and it is not supported y first.It does not mean that the first is weakening the second.It means that it has no effect on the second.Instead second is supported by th fact that the costs increased because of the measure taken.

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Customers are aware that most of the faults that arise in their mobile phones are due to the excessive exposure of these phones to moisture or water. Accordingly, engineers at Talkit Inc. have developed a water-resistant phone that can stay underwater for at least 30 minutes without any resultant damage to either its hardware or software. However, since the manufacturing cost of the phone is anywhere between 25-30% more than that of an ordinary phone, the phone will be very expensive and as such not be able to find enough customers.

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

A. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion that the argument as a whole disputes; the second is an explanation that counters that conclusion.

B. The first is an observation that the argument disfavors; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.

C. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is a conclusion that is not supported by the first.

D. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is an explanation that the argument favors.

E. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion which the argument as a whole disputes; the second is that conclusion.



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Customers are aware that most of the faults that arise in their mobile phones are due to the excessive exposure of these phones to moisture or water. Accordingly, engineers at Talkit Inc. have developed a water-resistant phone that can stay underwater for at least 30 minutes without any resultant damage to either its hardware or software. However, since the manufacturing cost of the phone is anywhere between 25-30% more than that of an ordinary phone, the phone will be very expensive and as such not be able to find enough customers.

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

A. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion that the argument as a whole disputes; the second is an explanation that counters that conclusion.

B. The first is an observation that the argument disfavors; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.

C. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is a conclusion that is not supported by the first.

D. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is an explanation that the argument favors.

E. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion which the argument as a whole disputes; the second is that conclusion.

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Between 2 confusing options that are C and D. I went for C as D the second bold statement doesn't show any favorable sign I guess. so for safe bet I go for C.
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Two choices. lets see if Cat wins (i want ) over the Dog this time :P

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Caught between c and d. If c would have been more clear, this answer choice would jump out to you straight away "second is a conclusion where first has no effect or is not related" or something like that. While in D it says that "second is an explanation that argument favours", it could be an explanation but clearly there is no sign/indicators in the argument that it "favours" so I will go with C, best of two.

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Is D wrong mainly for the reason that it mentions explanation ?

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Premise 1: Customers are aware that most of the faults that arise in their mobile phones are due to the excessive exposure of these phones to moisture or water.
This is an observation or a fact known.

Premise 2: Accordingly, engineers at Talkit Inc. have developed a water-resistant phone that can stay underwater for at least 30 minutes without any resultant damage to either its hardware or software.
Further discovery with additional info.

Premise 3: However, since the manufacturing cost of the phone is anywhere between 25-30% more than that of an ordinary phone, the phone will be very expensive and as such not be able to find enough customers.
This contains the conclusion in bold sentence.

In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

A. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion that the argument as a whole disputes; the second is an explanation that counters that conclusion.

The second is a conclusion and is not an explanation that counters the conclusion. -false
Argument does not dispute the first bold premise.-false


B. The first is an observation that the argument disfavors; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.

The second is a conclusion or position that argument seeks to establish-true
Argument does not disfavor the first bold premise.-false


C. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is a conclusion that is not supported by the first.

The second is a conclusion but it is not true that it is not supported by first-false
Argument does not dispute the first bold premise.-true


D. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is an explanation that the argument favors.

The second is a conclusion that the argument favors.-true.
Argument does not dispute the first bold premise.-true


E. The first is a reason provided to support a conclusion which the argument as a whole disputes; the second is that conclusion.

The second is a conclusion.-true
Argument does not dispute the first bold premise.-false


got it second time.
This is to help all those who preferred D over C or chose D itself.

1: Customers are aware that most of the faults that arise in their mobile phones are due to the excessive exposure of these phones to moisture or water.
This is an observation or a fact known.

2: However the phone will be very expensive and as such not be able to find enough customers.
This contains the conclusion in bold sentence.

C. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is a conclusion that is not supported by the first.

The second is a conclusion but it is not true that it is not supported by first-false..very much true as they are not directly related.
second statement is about the doubtful success of the phone due to its expense. whereas first express a different obs regarding normal problems to phone due to water or moisture.
Argument does not dispute the first bold premise. It introduces the argument which is further continued to the discovery.


D. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is an explanation that the argument favors.

First argument does not dispute the first bold premise.-true as explained above
The second is not an explanation but a conclusion(preferable) that the argument expresses.
The argument does not favor any explanation in the argument.


C is the correct answer.
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Customers are aware that most of the faults that arise in their mobile phones are due to the excessive exposure of these phones to moisture or water. Accordingly, engineers at Talkit Inc. have developed a water-resistant phone that can stay underwater for at least 30 minutes without any resultant damage to either its hardware or software. However, since the manufacturing cost of the phone is anywhere between 25-30% more than that of an ordinary phone, the phone will be very expensive and as such not be able to find enough customers.

C. The first is an observation that is not disputed by the argument; the second is a conclusion that is not supported by the first.

The Customers are "AWARE" -- this is a generic statement, hence an observation and nothing against this is mentioned in the argument, so the argument does not refute this.

However, since the manufacturing cost of the phone is anywhere between 25-30% more than that of an ordinary phone,[Therefore] the phone will be very expensive and as such not be able to find enough customers.

There is no relation between the first boldface and second, hence the second boldface is just a plain conclusion which is not supported by first.

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