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Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected the Hudson River at Albany to the Great Lakes at Buffalo, providing the port of New York City with a direct water link to the heartland of the North American continent.

A. Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected

B. Seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected

C. It was seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, and ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, but the Erie Canal, connecting

D. The Erie Canal was seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep and it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, which connected

E. The Erie Canal, seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, connecting
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Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected the Hudson River at Albany to the Great Lakes at Buffalo, providing the port of New York City with a direct water link to the heartland of the North American continent.

A. Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected --> Back to back to modifier is generally wrong on GMAT --> WRONG

B. Seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected
--> Modifier joined to make one --> CORRECT

C. It was seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, and ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, but the Erie Canal, connecting
--> Meaning Error --> WRONG

Implied meaning --> Erie Canal was XYZ, Erie Canal connected ABC
Option C meaning --> Some thing else was XYZ, but Erie Canal connected ABC


D. The Erie Canal was seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep and it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, [color=#ff0000]which connected ---> Modifier Error --> WRONG

which --> suggests wilderness of upstate New York --> connected ABC

Implied meaning --> Erie Canal connected ABC
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E. The Erie Canal, seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, connecting
SV(Fragment) Error --> No Verb for Erie Canal --> WRONG

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Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected the Hudson River at Albany to the Great Lakes at Buffalo, providing the port of New York City with a direct water link to the heartland of the North American continent.

A. Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected. "it" has no antecedent.

B. Seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected. Correct. Clear and concise

C. It was seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, and ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, but the Erie Canal, connecting. Run-on sentence

D. The Erie Canal was seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep and it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, which connected. The same as A. Moreover, "connected " is not parallel to "providing"

E. The Erie Canal, seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, connecting. Run-on sentence
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So the correct answer is B. Hope it is clear
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In my understanding, "it" correctly refers to "the Erie Canal" in A. PS: I might be wrong in this case, just clearing my concept.

However, over here (in A) the problem is with usage of "and".

Experts can you please guide.

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souvik101990 wrote:
Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected the Hudson River at Albany to the Great Lakes at Buffalo, providing the port of New York City with a direct water link to the heartland of the North American continent.

A. Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected. "it" has no antecedent.

B. Seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected. Correct. Clear and concise

C. It was seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, and ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, but the Erie Canal, connecting. Run-on sentence

D. The Erie Canal was seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep and it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, which connected. The same as A. Moreover, "connected " is not parallel to "providing"

E. The Erie Canal, seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, connecting. Run-on sentence
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So the correct answer is B. Hope it is clear

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As per the norms of modification, the modified should be immediately placed, here in this case, the Erie Canal, after the comma. The pronoun 'it' is no exception to this rule. Therefore the pronoun ‘it’ although may correctly refer to the Erie, is still not proper.

The conjunction 'and' connects two parallel phrases -- forty feet wide and 12 feet deep ---; so it is ok. But what is not ok is the manner in which these phrases are stated. We normally say 40-foot wide and 12-foot deep -- by putting the adjectives in singular words rather than in plural words as in --- 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep --- .
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Thanks a lot for such a nice explanation.

As I understood from your post, "It" is correctly referring to the Erie, but then also it's not proper. Sorry I missed that. Can you please explain.

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As per the norms of modification, the modified should be immediately placed, here in this case, the Erie Canal, after the comma. The pronoun 'it' is no exception to this rule. Therefore the pronoun ‘it’ although may correctly refer to the Erie, is still not proper.

The conjunction 'and' connects two parallel phrases -- forty feet wide and 12 feet deep ---; so it is ok. But what is not ok is the manner in which these phrases are stated. We normally say 40-foot wide and 12-foot deep -- by putting the adjectives in singular words rather than in plural words as in --- 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep --- .

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In my understanding, "it" correctly refers to "the Erie Canal" in A. PS: I might be wrong in this case, just clearing my concept.

However, over here (in A) the problem is with usage of "and".

Experts can you please guide.

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souvik101990 wrote:
Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected the Hudson River at Albany to the Great Lakes at Buffalo, providing the port of New York City with a direct water link to the heartland of the North American continent.

A. Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected. "it" has no antecedent.

B. Seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected. Correct. Clear and concise

C. It was seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, and ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, but the Erie Canal, connecting. Run-on sentence

D. The Erie Canal was seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep and it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, which connected. The same as A. Moreover, "connected " is not parallel to "providing"

E. The Erie Canal, seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, connecting. Run-on sentence
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So the correct answer is B. Hope it is clear



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You can say that it may refer to Erie Canal but the biggest problem in A is the placement of clause in which it is a subject.


Lets deconstruct A:

Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep (This is basically a noun modifier or adjectival phrase modifying Erie Canal)
, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York (This is basically an independent clause connected to the the adjectival phrase with comma+but which is basically a coordinating conjunction. Call it IC1)
, the Erie Canal connected the Hudson River at Albany to the Great Lakes at Buffalo, providing the port of New York City with a direct water link to the heartland of the North American continent. (This whole part again can be called an independent clause as it has a subject and a verb. Call it IC2)

The biggest problem in A is this construction: Noun modifier comma but Independent clause. Comma+but is a coordinating conjunction which is used to connect two independent clause, but here it is used to connect a modifier with an independent clause.

Further in modifier "Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep" 'or' is better than 'and' because it is unlikely that both of these conditions are true at the same time for the canal.

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See: What is seldom “forty feet wide and 12 feet deep”? the Erie Canal; Then the Erie Canal should be immediately stated after the comma. In the choice A; it says ‘but it’. This is wrong. The actually modified noun Erie comes much later in the clause.
This is also because, a pronoun is required to appear normally after its referent and not before the referent. Example:
Because he ranked top, Tom was selected for the job –Here the pronoun ‘he’ has no antecedent but only a postcedent, notwithstanding the pronoun referring to the Noun.
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Thanks daagh and tarunktuteja, I learnt three very important concepts today :)
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Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected the Hudson River at Albany to the Great Lakes at Buffalo, providing the port of New York City with a direct water link to the heartland of the North American continent.

A. Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected
The modifier Seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep should refer to the Erie canal directly but here there is one more modifier which makes the construction awkward. Also, the pronoun "it" appears before the actual noun. But it should be reverse, for the sentence to be more clearer.

B. Seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected
Best of the lot. Arrived to this sentence by POE.

C. It was seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, and ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, but the Erie Canal, connecting
Modifier should refer to Erie Canal but that is not happening in this construction. Also there is no verb for Erie Canal. Connecting and Providing are not connected properly.
Independent Clause 1 and 2 are also not connected properly. The second independent clause is missing the subject.
Just like option A, the pronoun "it" appears before the actual noun. But it should be reverse, for the sentence to be more clearer.

D. The Erie Canal was seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep and it ran 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, which connected
which refers to the Erie Canal which is too far in this construction. so Incorrect. Usage of "and it" can be avoided as it makes the sentence a bit wordy

E. The Erie Canal, seldom more than 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep, but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, connecting There is no verb for main subject the Erie Canal.


Though I picked B, but I have certain questions,

B. Seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York, the Erie Canal connected
But is a marker for parallelism, part before and after it should be parallel. Can someone explain the parallelism in the following sentence? As that is bothering me.

Seldom more than 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep but running 363 miles across the rugged wilderness of upstate New York

Also, usage of AND and OR changes the meaning. 40 feet wide and 12 feet deep AND 40 feet wide or 12 feet deep, both produce a different meaning. As per my understanding the first usage is making more sense. Can someone comment on that as well? DmitryFarber ChrisLele

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