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Re: The Academia Sectrorum Naturae, the first scientific community, was fo [#permalink]
if option C is really the answer then i feel that the intended meaning is very awkward . the implied meaning of C is that The academia secretorum naturae was founded with the intention of having a prerequisite for admission,a meaning that does not make any sense !!. institute can have a prerequisite for admission and so this fact should have been presented with a parallelism .also institutes are opened with much broader intentions and not with such narrow intentions as is described in option C
i don't feel good about this question !!
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if option C is really the answer then i feel that the intended meaning is very awkward . the implied meaning of C is that The academia secretorum naturae was founded with the intention of having a prerequisite for admission,a meaning that does not make any sense !!. institute can have a prerequisite for admission and so this fact should have been presented with a parallelism .also institutes are opened with much broader intentions and not with such narrow intentions as is described in option C
i don't feel good about this question !!


B seems an appropriate sentence. Option C alters the meaning of original sentence and doesn't convey who needs to fulfill the prerequisite.
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Option C alters the meaning of original sentence


honestly i really do not believe into the theory of "meaning of original sentence" ,because 80 % of the time option A is wrong !! so there is no reason as why i should preserve the original meaning but yes, as i have said, i find meaning of C awkward
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The academia secretorum naturae, the first scientific community, was founded in 1560, and in order to be included in membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, a prerequisite for admission.

A. 1560, and in order to be included in membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, a prerequisite for admission
B. 1560, and included a prerequisite for admission: in order to be included, you had to have made the discovery of a new law of nature.
C. 1560 with a prerequisite for admission: the discovery of a new law of nature.
D. the year 1560, including the prerequisite that to be included, you needed to have discovered a new law of nature.
E. 1560 with the rule that in order to be admitted for membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, that was the prerequisite.

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if option C is really the answer then i feel that the intended meaning is very awkward . the implied meaning of C is that The academia secretorum naturae was founded with the intention of having a prerequisite for admission,a meaning that does not make any sense !!. institute can have a prerequisite for admission and so this fact should have been presented with a parallelism .also institutes are opened with much broader intentions and not with such narrow intentions as is described in option C
i don't feel good about this question !!

Dear Sukant2010 & aditya8062,
I'm happy to respond. :-) This is a truly horrible question. This question apparently was written by someone who had absolutely no understanding of the rigorous standards of the GMAT.
I could see, maybe, testing the colloquial "you" mistake in one answer choice, but testing this in four answer choices is preposterous. The OA, (C), indeed is awkward. This doesn't have the feel of the types of splits the real GMAT would use. This question is an unremitting disaster.
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honestly i really do not believe into the theory of "meaning of original sentence" ,because 80 % of the time option A is wrong !! so there is no reason as why i should preserve the original meaning but yes, as i have said, i find meaning of C awkward

I would caution you here. While's it's true that 80% of the time, (A) is wrong, nevertheless, the real GMAT communicates clearly a meaning in (A), and it is very important not to change that meaning. This is not a "theory" --- this is part and parcel of how the question is structured. The problem comes with looking at low quality practice questions, such as this one --- in many ways, these questions can be quite misleading, because they fall so short of the high standards of the GMAT.
Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)
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Re: The Academia Sectrorum Naturae, the first scientific community, was fo [#permalink]
Please explain why C is the correct choice? I think it lost the intended meaning. These facts are not so closely related and should be written in the form of independent clauses.

1. A community was founded
2. Criteria to be its member


What is wrong with choice A?

I found choice A better than c
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Please explain why C is the correct choice? I think it lost the intended meaning. These facts are not so closely related and should be written in the form of independent clauses.

1. A community was founded
2. Criteria to be its member


What is wrong with choice A?

I found choice A better than c


In A it appears that the rule is applicable only for "you", the person spoken to, not in general for anybody. Though in colloquial language, we often use such style, in official language such usage is not acceptable.

Moreover if an option uses fewer words to express the same idea, it is considered better.
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The Academia Sectrorum Naturae, the first scientific community, was founded in 1560, and in order to be included in membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, a prerequisite for admission.

A. 1560, and in order to be included in membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, a prerequisite for admission
B. 1560, and included a prerequisite for admission: in order to be included, you had to have made the discovery of a new law of nature
C. 1560 with a prerequisite for admission: the discovery of a new law of nature
D. the year 1560, including the prerequisite that to be admitted, you needed to have discovered a new law of nature
E. 1560 with the rule that in order to be admitted for membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, that was the prerequisite

By mentioning the word "prerequisite", the intent of the topic is that if one wants to be admitted into the ASN, then one must have already discovered something new. One cannot say that he will enter ASN and then discover something new in the following years.

A and E say "you had to discover' but not "had to have discovered". They are straight out. In C, the noun phrase after colon doesn't seem to make clear whether the new discovery is an already made one or it is going to be made later. Thus, it misses the intent of the issue.

The main contention is between B and D, and both seem to be good or bad; both use the conversational 'you', not seen in GMAT.

B abounds in jarring redundancies. D is wordy with the inclusion of 'the year 1560' rather than '1560'. However, in D, the verb+ing "including" is indeed an apt modifier in that it is an additional information to the main intent of revealing the timeline of the founding year of ASN. Perhaps D is the best among the lot.
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