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Unlike mainstream american businesses, more than half of which fail, the failure rate for businesses in amish community hovers at just around 5 percent.
A Unlike mainstream american businesses, more than half of which fail
B Unlike mainstream american businesses, in which the failure rate is more than half
C Unlike mainstream american businesses, where more than half of them fail
D While the rate of american businesses failing is more than half
E While more than half of mainstream american businesses fail

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I have a question here, how the choice E is correct, it is illogical to compare the "business fail" in clause 1 with "failure rate" in next clause.
To elborate further:-
The first portion of choice E states :- "While [b]more than half[/b] of mainstream american businesses fail" which informs and compares that more than half of mainstream american businesses fail. i.e. the quantum of business fail and not the rate at which it fails, whereas the second portion of choice E informs on failure rate of 5%. The word rate brings huge difference in the meaning.

Please clarify my doubt if I am wrong on above thought.

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I came across this Q in the SC PDF file and was a bit thrown off. So "while" does not require an explicit x vs y comparative structure?

Hypothetically, if D read "While the rate of mainstream American business failure is greater than 50%," would it be preferable to E? Thanks!
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Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail, the failure rate for
businesses in the Amish community hovers around 5 percent.
A. Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail
B. Unlike mainstream American businesses, in which the failure rate is more than
half
C. Unlike mainstream American businesses, where more than half of them fail
D. While the rate of mainstream American businesses failing is more than half
E. While more than half of mainstream American businesses fail


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ritjn2003 wrote:
Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail, the failure rate for businesses in the Amish community hovers around 5 percent.

A. Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail
B. Unlike mainstream American businesses, in which the failure rate is more than
half
C. Unlike mainstream American businesses, where more than half of them fail
D. While the rate of mainstream American businesses failing is more than half
E. While more than half of mainstream American businesses fail


in D, rate of businesses is not logic in our real world. D is out

E is correct
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ritjn2003 wrote:
Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail, the failure rate for businesses in the Amish community hovers around 5 percent.

A. Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail
B. Unlike mainstream American businesses, in which the failure rate is more than
half
C. Unlike mainstream American businesses, where more than half of them fail
D. While the rate of mainstream American businesses failing is more than half
E. While more than half of mainstream American businesses fail


in D, rate of businesses is not logic in our real world. D is out

E is correct


It appears that there is a parallelism problem even with the option E:

As usual let us look at the 2 elements of the parallel structure:

Parallelism marker: While X, Y.

element X: more than half of mainstream American businesses fail... subject: more than half of mainstream American businesses
element Y: the failure rate for businesses in the Amish community hovers around 5 percent..... subject: the failure rate

Apparently, american businesses has been compared to failure rate. This kind of structural mismatch is generally considered wrong in GMAT. The question seems to a be a disputed one.

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The problem in E is that you are comparing American business with the failure rate for
businesses in the Amish community!!

OA is E, by the way.


D is saying that the rate is more than half not the business > Illogical comparison.

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amitbharadwaj7 wrote:
I have a question here, how the choice E is correct, it is illogical to compare the "business fail" in clause 1 with "failure rate" in next clause.
To elborate further:-
The first portion of choice E states :- "While [b]more than half[/b] of mainstream american businesses fail" which informs and compares that more than half of mainstream american businesses fail. i.e. the quantum of business fail and not the rate at which it fails, whereas the second portion of choice E informs on failure rate of 5%. The word rate brings huge difference in the meaning.

Please clarify my doubt if I am wrong on above thought.


D is saying that the rate is more than half not the business > Illogical comparison.

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New post 10 Sep 2016, 07:29
Thanks...That settles it for me :)

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E is correct.

For this question, we have to use COMPARISON and MEANING to pick the correct answer.

Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail, the failure rate for businesses in the Amish community hovers around 5 percent.

A. Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail
Wrong. incorrect comparison (mainstream American business vs the rate)

B. Unlike mainstream American businesses, in which the failure rate is more than half
Wrong. incorrect comparison (mainstream American business vs the rate)

C. Unlike mainstream American businesses, where more than half of them fail
Wrong. incorrect comparison (mainstream American business vs the rate). Also "where" is wrong.

D. While the rate of mainstream American businesses failing is more than half
Wrong. correct comparison, but WRONG MEANING. "The rate is more than half" does not make sense. Half of what? half of 1% (0.5%); or half of 100% (50%). We never say "the rate is half". It's wrong.

E. While more than half of mainstream American businesses fail
Correct. "more than half of X fail" = the rate is more than 50%. MEANING is the first priority in this question.

Hope it helps.

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Hi sdas,
This is in response to your PM.

Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail, the failure rate for businesses in the Amish community hovers around 5 percent.

Meaning Analysis:

Half of mainstream American businesses fail. But this is not the case with Amish community businesses. Their failure rate is just around 5 percent.

Error Analysis:

One thing we need to heed here is that when we use the word “Unlike/like” for comparison, we must make sure that the entity compared should be grammatically and logically parallel.
So, per this rule, the original sentence is incorrect because in presence of “Unlike”, “mainstream American businesses” cannot be logically compared to “the failure rate”.

PoE:

A. Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail: Incorrect for the reason stated above.

B. Unlike mainstream American businesses, in which the failure rate is more than half: Incorrect.
i. This choice repeats the error of choice A.
ii. The phrase “rate is more than half” is not idiomatic. The correct expression is “rate is less than 50%”.

C. Unlike mainstream American businesses, where more than half of them fail: Incorrect.
i. This choice repeats the error of choice A.
ii. Use of “where more than…” is not correct.

D. While the rate of mainstream American businesses failing is more than half: Incorrect.
i. The expression “businesses failing” the way it appears in this choice is not idiomatic.
ii. The phrase “rate is more than half” is not idiomatic. The correct expression is “rate is less than 50%”.

E. While more than half of mainstream American businesses fail: Correct. The first thing to note here is that we are not bound by the limitations of “Unlike” in this choice. Here “more than half” denotes the rate of the mainstream American businesses that fail. So the comparison is logical. And construction is also parallel because we have clauses on both sides of comma for comparison. This structure is more relaxed than that with “unlike”

Hope this helps. :-)
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Hi,

Original sentence says "rate is more than half"

Did not understand why the expression "less than 50%" is correct in place of "more than half"

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egmat wrote:

Hi,

Original sentence says "rate is more than half"

Did not understand why the expression "less than 50%" is correct in place of "more than half"

Pls advise.


I have the same Question.
BTW, is "more" wrong to compare rate? should it be "greater"?
- the rate ... is greater than 50%?

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D. While the rate of mainstream American businesses failing is more than half

rate has to be defined, can't be more than half of something

E. While more than half of mainstream American businesses fail

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The problem in E is that you are comparing American business with the failure rate for
businesses in the Amish community!!

OA is E, by the way.


There is no comparison in E though. "Unlike" compares but "while" doesn't have to. E.g. While Henry studied for the exam, the sun shone brightly outside. You cannot say "Unlike Henry, who was studying for the exam, the sun shone brightly outside."

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Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail, the failure rate for businesses in the Amish community hovers around 5 percent.

A. Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail
B. Unlike mainstream American businesses, in which the failure rate is more than
half
C. Unlike mainstream American businesses, where more than half of them fail
D. While the rate of mainstream American businesses failing is more than half
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Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail, the failure rate for businesses in the Amish community hovers around 5 percent.

A. Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail comparison between mainstream American businesses and failure rate
B. Unlike mainstream American businesses, in which the failure rate is more thancomparison between mainstream American businesses and failure rate
C. Unlike mainstream American businesses, where more than half of them failcomparison between mainstream American businesses and failure rate
D. While the rate of mainstream American businesses failing is more than half though the comparison is fine, it fails to deliver the intended meaning
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sayantanc2k wrote:
thangvietnam wrote:
ritjn2003 wrote:
Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail, the failure rate for businesses in the Amish community hovers around 5 percent.

A. Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail
B. Unlike mainstream American businesses, in which the failure rate is more than
half
C. Unlike mainstream American businesses, where more than half of them fail
D. While the rate of mainstream American businesses failing is more than half
E. While more than half of mainstream American businesses fail


in D, rate of businesses is not logic in our real world. D is out

E is correct


It appears that there is a parallelism problem even with the option E:

As usual let us look at the 2 elements of the parallel structure:

Parallelism marker: While X, Y.

element X: more than half of mainstream American businesses fail... subject: more than half of mainstream American businesses
element Y: the failure rate for businesses in the Amish community hovers around 5 percent..... subject: the failure rate

Apparently, american businesses has been compared to failure rate. This kind of structural mismatch is generally considered wrong in GMAT. The question seems to a be a disputed one.


Hi sayantanc2k, I also noticed the different structure here, but this is a gmatprep question. I don't know if it is tagged (where do you see that?).

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Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail, the failure rate for businesses in the Amish community hovers around 5 percent.

A. Unlike mainstream American businesses, more than half of which fail
B. Unlike mainstream American businesses, in which the failure rate is more than
half
C. Unlike mainstream American businesses, where more than half of them fail
D. While the rate of mainstream American businesses failing is more than half
E. While more than half of mainstream American businesses fail


OPTION A--wrong comparison (comparing amaerican businesses to failure rate)
OPTION B--Same reason as in A
OPTION C--Same reason as in A
OPTION D-Rate is being compared with failure rate(ITs given that rate of American business{Failing is a participle phrase acting as a modifier})
OPTION E-ABSOLUTELY CORRECT-MOre than half signifies rate which is being compared with failure rate(starting after comma)..

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amitbharadwaj7 wrote:
I have a question here, how the choice E is correct, it is illogical to compare the "business fail" in clause 1 with "failure rate" in next clause.
To elborate further:-
The first portion of choice E states :- "While [b]more than half[/b] of mainstream american businesses fail" which informs and compares that more than half of mainstream american businesses fail. i.e. the quantum of business fail and not the rate at which it fails, whereas the second portion of choice E informs on failure rate of 5%. The word rate brings huge difference in the meaning.

Please clarify my doubt if I am wrong on above thought.


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Nothing is wrong and nothing is right in GMAT(after an LEVEL). It seems all options are correct but still GMAT gives fair chance to eliminate some wrong choices.
Brother In Option E if we observe closely , would see that (While more than half phrase in itself is a rate ex Numerator/ denominator is nothing but a ratio or rate).
I already have eliminated options A/B/C/d in my previous post. If you wish you can go through...
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failure rate is compared,,,,

so narrowed down to D and E,,,,

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