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What is the sum of all possible solutions of the equation |x + 4|^2 - 10|x + 4| = 24?

A. -16
B. -14
C. -12
D. -8
E. -6


|x + 4|² - 10|x + 4| = 24
Let's simplify matters by using some u-substitution

Let u = |x + 4| and then replace |x + 4| with u to get: u² - 10u = 24
Subtract 24 from both sides to get: u² - 10u - 24 = 0
Factor to get: (u - 12)(u + 2) = 0
So, u = 12 or u = -2

Now let's replace u with |x + 4|.
This means that |x + 4| = 12 or |x + 4| = -2

If |x + 4| = 12, then x = 8 or -16
If |x + 4| = -2, then there are NO SOLUTIONS, since |x + 4| will always be greater than or equal to zero.

So, there are only 2 solutions: x = 8 and x = -16
We're asked to find the SUM of all possible solutions
x = 8 + (-16) = -8

Answer: D

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IMO -16.

Take y = |x+4 | and solve for y, then solve for |x+4| , we get x=-16,8,-2,-6, sum = -16.
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Economist the problem is that -2 and -6 doesn't satisfy the equation. Thus only two values of x are left -16 and 8: -16+8=-8.

Consider this:
|x + 4|^2 - 10|x + 4| = 24
Solve for \(|x+4 |\) --> \(|x+4 |=12\) OR \(|x+4 |=-2\), BUT as absolute value never negative thus -2 is out. Solving \(|x+4 |=12\) --> \(x_1=8\) or \(x_2=-16\) --> \(x_1+x_2=8-16=-8\).

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Correct me:

I solved from where the author of the problem left it. that is:
y = -2 or 12
Hence, considereding + values of |x+4|, i.e. x+4 = -2 or 12, which gives us x = -6 or 8

Considering - values of |x+4|, i.e. -x-4 = -6 or 4, which gives us x = -2 or 8.

Sum of all, -6+8-2+8 = 8.
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|x+4| = y
gives y^2 -10y -24 = 0

y = -2 and 12

|x+4| = 12 gives x = 8 and -16.

sum is -8.
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What is the sum of all roots of the equation
\(|x + 4|^2 - 10|x + 4| = 24?\)


Please help me find my mistake:
Let \(x+4=y\)
Now we get two cases,
Case1:
\(y^2-10y-24=0\)
Solving we get -2,12

Case2:
\(-y^2+10y-24=0\)
where we get 6,4



Let's try this with number line.
|x+4| = y ==> y^2-10y-24=0 ==> y = 12 or y = -2
Substitute the value of y
we have
|x+4|=12 or |x+4|= -2
Hmm.. can mod be a negative number? NO ==> Eliminate |x+4|= -2

Now we are left only with |x+4|=12
Lets draw a number line
.................................|x+4|.................................
<------------------------------------------------------------------------>
-16..............................(-4)................................8

Thus, two possible roots are -16 and +8
Sum of roots => -16+8=-8
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Hi Buneuel,

Please help me with the basic understanding of the mod probs

when we have

|x+4|= |x-5|

We can two solutions

x+4= x-5
and
x+4=-x+5


but in this problem why do we check for ranges. I mean what s the step by step approach to attack a modulus question?
a few examples would be grateful


|x+4| can expand in two ways: if x<=-4 then |x+4|=-(x+4) and if x>-4 then |x+4|=x+4. So, we expand |x+4| for |x + 4|^2 - 10|x + 4| = 24 according to this and then solve for x.

Solution in this post might be easier to understand: what-is-the-sum-of-all-roots-of-the-equation-85988.html#p645659

For basic understanding check Absolute Value chapter of Math Book: math-absolute-value-modulus-86462.html

DS question on absolute values: search.php?search_id=tag&tag_id=37
PS question on absolute values: search.php?search_id=tag&tag_id=58

Hope it helps.
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Answer Is D .... But I think this is a 700 level question not 600- 700 level :lol: :lol: :lol:


so , lets start,

| x+4 | ^2 - 10 |x+4 | =24 , Lets put letter t rather than the term | x+4 | in the equation and solve the equation :

so, we have : t ^2 -10 t = 24 or : t^2 -10 t -24=0 OR : (t-12 ) ( t+2) = 0 and from here we get two values for t : t = 12 & -2


So , we have TWO cases : the First case : | x+4 | = 12 and the second case : | x+ 4 | = -2 BUT here notice that the second case is REJECTED as LHS is ALWAYS POSSIBLE ( because of absolute value) , so its value CAN NOT be negative . so we have ONLY ONE scenario .


HERE : | x+4 | =12 OR : x+4 = +/- 12 , so we have TWO scenarios ; Scenario 1) : x+4 = +12 so X= 8 and Scenario 2) : x+4 =-12 SO X= -16

NOW the problem HAS NOT STILL FINISHED !! because we have to check whether two values can be confirm in the equation or NOT..

LETS consider the solution -16 : |-16 + 4 | ^2 -10 |-16+4 | =24 or : 12 ^2 -10*12 = 144-120 =24 so confirms with the RHS ( 24 ) , so accepted

NOW 8 : |8+4| ^2 -10 |8+4| = 12 ^2 -10 *12 = 144 -120 = 24 Confirms with RHS , so accepted,

NOW the sum of all possible solutions = -16 +8 = -8 ANSWER D... :lol: :lol:
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When it comes to "layered" questions, you have to be careful about the approach that you take. The more complex an approach is, the more likely you are to make a mistake, miss a detail or do a calculation that is incorrect.

Here, we have:

|X+4|^2 - 10|X+4| = 24

This is certainly a complex looking calculation, but it IS based on some simple ideas and rules. Rather than take a calculation-heavy approach, let's break this into 'pieces' and talk through what each piece means...

First, I'm going to rewrite the equation:

|X+4|^2 = 24 + 10|X+4|

This tell us that....

|X+4|^2 is exactly 24 "bigger" than 10|X+4|

Next, let's compare pieces...

|X+4|^2 = (|X+4|)(|X+4|)

(|X+4|)(|X+4|) is 24 "bigger" than (10)(|X+4|)

Compare the two products....they each have a (|X+4|) a term. The difference of 24 must be based on the OTHER terms...

|X+4| MUST be > 10

....but probably not that much bigger, since the difference in the overall calculation is just 24.

So.....what happens in this equation: |X+4|^2 = 24 + 10|X+4|

When.....X = 7......
121 = 24 + 110???? This is not correct (121 does NOT = 134)

When....X = 8.....
144 = 24 + 120? This IS correct (144 = 144)

When....X = 9....
169 = 24 + 130??? This is not correct (169 does NOT = 154)

As X gets bigger, we can see that the calculation will NOT be equal. This means that |X+4| MUST = 12 and that ONE of the solutions is X=8. Since we're dealing with an absolute value, we have 2 equations to solve:

X+4 = 12
X = 8

X+4 = -12
X = -16

So the 2 solutions are X=8 and X = -16. There are NO other options.

The prompt asks for the sum of the solutions: -16 + 8 = -8

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I solve it by replacing |x+4| as k

so k^2-10k-24=0
(k-12)(k+2) = 0
k = 12 or -2
k can not be -2 because it is an absolute value
so
k = 12 = |x+4|
then
x+4 = 12, x = 8
x+4 = -12, x = -16
sum is -8


I liked that approach, is this always true?

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Not sure what part you are questioning about
(1) You can always do a variable switch in an equation (|x+4|=y)
(2) |Any expression| is always greater than or equal to 0
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What is the sum of all roots of the equation
\(|x + 4|^2 - 10|x + 4| = 24?\)


Please help me find my mistake:
Let \(x+4=y\)
Now we get two cases,
Case1:
\(y^2-10y-24=0\)
Solving we get -2,12

Case2:
\(-y^2+10y-24=0\)
where we get 6,4


Case 1: You mean \(y\geq{0}\), right? Because \(|x+4|=y\) only if \(y\) is non-negative.
Only \(y=12\) is acceptable. From \(|x+4|=12\) we obtain \(x=8\) and \(x=-16.\)

Case 2: Now \(y<0,\) so \(|x+4|=-y\). But \(|x+4|^2=(-y)^2\) is still \(y^2\), doesn't matter that \(y\) is negative!
Your equation should be \(y^2+10y-24=0,\) solutions \(2, -12\). Now only \(-12\) is acceptable (\(y\) must be negative), and we obtain the same solutions as in Case 1.

It would have been better to denote \(|x+4|=y\geq{0}\) (see other posts above). Then \(|x+4|^2=y^2\), and for the quadratic equation \(y^2+10y-24=0\) you choose only the non-negative root, then find \(x\)...
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Here's how I did it-

let |x+4| = y

|X+4| ^2 - 10|x+4|= 24 can be written as y^2-10y-24=0

solving for y we get y = -2 or 10

since modulus value cannot be negative, the only possible solution is |x+4| = 10


|x+4| = 10
when x+4>= 0 x+4=10 => x= 6
when x+4<0 -x-4=10 => x= -14


-14 + 6 = 8
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Hi thorinoakenshield,

Your solutions are actually really easy to check. When you plug each of those 4 values in for X, does the equation "balance out?"

eg. IF.....X = 20

Does |20+4|^2 - 10|20+4| = 24?

If it does NOT balance out (re if the calculation does NOT equal 24), then X=20 is NOT a solution.

Now, check the others.

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What is the sum of all possible solutions of the equation |x + 4|^2 - 10|x + 4| = 24?

A. -16
B. -14
C. -12
D. -8
E. -6


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IMO -16.

Take y = |x+4 | and solve for y, then solve for |x+4| , we get x=-16,8,-2,-6, sum = -16.
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-8 for me. Once you solve the QE you get |x+4| = 6 or -4. -4 is not possible so take the case |x+4| = 6 which means x = -10 or 2. So the sum is -8.
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jzd wrote:
I solve it by replacing |x+4| as k

so k^2-10k-24=0
(k-12)(k+2) = 0
k = 12 or -2
k can not be -2 because it is an absolute value
so
k = 12 = |x+4|
then
x+4 = 12, x = 8
x+4 = -12, x = -16
sum is -8


I liked that approach, is this always true?

thanks.


Not sure what part you are questioning about
(1) You can always do a variable switch in an equation (|x+4|=y)
(2) |Any expression| is always greater than or equal to 0



Shrouded: can we do this question by the approach you have mentioned in the walker post. .i.e |x-a|<b =>
a-b<x<a+b
or this approach is for specific questions.
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Hi Buneuel,

Please help me with the basic understanding of the mod probs

when we have

|x+4|= |x-5|

We can two solutions

x+4= x-5
and
x+4=-x+5


but in this problem why do we check for ranges. I mean what s the step by step approach to attack a modulus question?
a few examples would be grateful
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