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A terminating decimal is defined as a decimal that has a finite number of nonzero digits. Examples of terminating decimals are 0.24, 52, and 6.0314. x and y are positive integers. If x/y is expressed as a decimal, is it a terminating decimal? (1) 40 < x < 45 (2) y = 8
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Theory:Reduced fraction \(\frac{a}{b}\) (meaning that fraction is already reduced to its lowest term) can be expressed as terminating decimal if and only \(b\) (denominator) is of the form \(2^n5^m\), where \(m\) and \(n\) are nonnegative integers. For example: \(\frac{7}{250}\) is a terminating decimal \(0.028\), as \(250\) (denominator) equals to \(2*5^3\). Fraction \(\frac{3}{30}\) is also a terminating decimal, as \(\frac{3}{30}=\frac{1}{10}\) and denominator \(10=2*5\). Note that if denominator already has only 2s and/or 5s then it doesn't matter whether the fraction is reduced or not.For example \(\frac{x}{2^n5^m}\), (where x, n and m are integers) will always be terminating decimal. (We need reducing in case when we have the prime in denominator other then 2 or 5 to see whether it could be reduced. For example fraction \(\frac{6}{15}\) has 3 as prime in denominator and we need to know if it can be reduced.) In original question statement (2) says that denominator equals to 2^3=8, hence x/8 will be terminating decimal no matter what the value of x is.
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Found this helpful explanation on Mgmat site. Author Emily Sledge This rule took a while for me to internalize. It's tough to picture a decimal terminating when the denominator is so huge, such as DWG's example of 43/256. I found it helped me to think about the basic patterns: 1/2^1 = 0.5 1/2^2 = 0.25 1/2^3 = 0.125 1/2^4 = 0.0625 1/2^5 = 0.03125 1/2^6 = 0.015625 1/2^7 = 0.0078125 1/5^1 = 0.2 1/5^2 = 0.04 1/5^3 = 0.008 1/5^4 = 0.0016 1/5^5 = 0.00032 1/5^6 = 0.000064 1/5^7 = 0.0000128 Every one of these terminates, and the pattern indicates that would continue to be true for higher powers. The number of decimal places increases along with the powers of 2 or 5, but the number of decimal places will always be finite. In contrast, any factors other than 2 or 5 in the denominator can quickly be shown to be nonterminating, even for the most basic case (exponent of 1). Higher powers would be even messier: 1/3 = 0.33333(3 repeating) 1/6 = 0.16666(6 repeating) 1/7 = 0.142857(142857 repeating) 1/9 = 0.11111(1 repeating)




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(1) Definitely isn't enough, because you can tweak the denominator any way you like to arrive at fraction that simplifies down to say, 2/3 (0.66666...) (2) Is the same thing.
At first glance this question seems really too easy. You need to know what's going on with both x and y in order be able to answer it.
C) jumps out immediately. It's obvious that if you know even the ranges of both x and y you could test each combo out and eventually arrive at an answer so clearly taken together they are sufficient.
It's just a matter of seeing if A, B or D is feasible. I don't think they are for the reasons I gave above. If I only know either the nominator or denominator, I can find a match somewhere down the line that allows to make it so the simplified result ends up to be 2/3 (recurring decimal) or 1/1 (obviously a terminating one).
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dalmba wrote: (1) Definitely isn't enough, because you can tweak the denominator any way you like to arrive at fraction that simplifies down to say, 2/3 (0.66666...) (2) Is the same thing.
At first glance this question seems really too easy. You need to know what's going on with both x and y in order be able to answer it.
C) jumps out immediately. It's obvious that if you know even the ranges of both x and y you could test each combo out and eventually arrive at an answer so clearly taken together they are sufficient.
It's just a matter of seeing if A, B or D is feasible. I don't think they are for the reasons I gave above. If I only know either the nominator or denominator, I can find a match somewhere down the line that allows to make it so the simplified result ends up to be 2/3 (recurring decimal) or 1/1 (obviously a terminating one).
So: C OA is B Statement (2): Any number divided by 8 results in a terminating decimal. This is because when a number is divided by 2, the only possible remainders are or 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 (actually 1/8, 2/8, etc.). These remainders are expressed as .125, .25, .375, .5, .625, .75, and .875, respectively. Therefore x/y is a terminating decimal; SUFFICIENT. I did not understand this... could u please help me



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Haha, this is why I'm bad at DS. You're supposed to intuitively know that anything ever divided by 8 will result in a terminal decimal. I messed up in assuming I had control over the denominator (when I said (2) is the same logic as why (1) doesn't work), when it clearly said it was 8 and nothing else. It's funny, the last DS question I answered here I got right but made a big deal about feeling reluctant to toss out B. I was right to be feeling that way, but just not for the correct question. *sigh*



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shekar123 wrote: A terminating decimal is defined as a decimal that has a finite number of nonzero digits. Examples of terminating decimals are 0.24, 52, and 6.0314. x and y are positive integers. If x/y is expressed as a decimal, is it a terminating decimal?
(1) 40 < x < 45
(2) y = 8 B. any positive integer number divided by 8 gives terminate decimal equal to 5. 1) is very alluring, cause we read 1) and then 2), having in mind "I dont know x, so I cant find out what is the decimal point, thus I need to know the range of numbers for X" Thus c is wrong.
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Bunuel wrote: For example \(\frac{x}{2^n5^m}\), (where x, n and m are integers) will always be terminating decimal.
That is sweet. A nifty little tool that's not too horrible to remember. Also, in order to preserve some sort of semblance of competency in this realm I will quite proudly point out that there was a typo in your post here: Bunuel wrote: as \(250\) (denominator) equals to \(2*5^2\). As it should read  "\(250\) (denominator) equals to \(2*5^ 3\)"



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shekar123 wrote: A terminating decimal is defined as a decimal that has a finite number of nonzero digits. Examples of terminating decimals are 0.24, 52, and 6.0314. x and y are positive integers. If x/y is expressed as a decimal, is it a terminating decimal?
(1) 40 < x < 45
(2) y = 8 1) we don't know anything about y, so Insufficient 2) when you divide anything by 8 the answer will be either an integer, a fraction of a multiple of 0.125. For example 201/8 = 25.125 and 203/8 = 25.375 So in any case, this will always lead to a terminating decimal. Sufficient My Answer: B



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In statement 1 x can be 41,42,43 or 44. insufficient as we don't have value of y
In statement 2, clearly y is given as 8 which is the denominator of the fraction x/y. we know that any number which has denominator as 8 will be a terminating decimal
so correct answer  B



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