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This interview fiasco is seriously hurting my image of the school

I am interviewing this Thursday with an alumnus and of course will prepare robust answers to each of the questions I've read from Sandy (thanks btw..).

I am debating just laying all the cards out on the table for the interviewer

" I know all of your questions and I have the answers ready.. let me send them to you an e-mail. Let's have a real discussion about Wharton and whether it's right for me."

I really don't understand why you think it's a fiasco?

1. Behavioral interview is a popular method to interview and is used by top companies as well as schools (MIT). So what's wrong with Wharton using it?

2. I respect Sandy's opinion but please don't blindly go by what he thinks. If you look back at some of his posts about Wharton, it's pretty clear he doesn't like their adcom/admission process/ interview/ campus/.... He even thought that their essays for this year and last year (and maybe earlier too) were useless and boring. While he is entitled to his opinion, I certainly didn't think there was anything wrong with Wharton essays at all! Between Sandy and Wharton adcom, I would certainly have greater faith in Wharton adcom's ability to figure out what essays are appropriate for WHARTON. Anybody can write a page about how boring essays for school [X] are.

3. There's too much noise about the secret list of questions Wharton is asking which truly is hilarious. Wharton adcom is more than aware of how students collaborate on forums and elsewhere. Let's give them some credit! They are intelligent enough to figure out that asking the same questions to ~1000 students over a 1 month period wouldn't be fair. I am sure they have a database of behavioral based questions to ask from and "the 8 secret questions" are just a sample from that database. Not everyone around the world will get asked the same question.

OK.....after all this rant...what I would say is that we should all prepare the best we can since that is in our control. Interview questions/adcom mood/ alumni biases/ weather conditions cannot be controlled by us so it would help to clear our mind of those thoughts!

Wharton has been a top school for decades.They KNOW what they are doing. Sandy is an amazing resource and has a wealth of knowledge but as applicant we should take his opinion with a grain of salt and make our own judgments.
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This interview fiasco is seriously hurting my image of the school

I am interviewing this Thursday with an alumnus and of course will prepare robust answers to each of the questions I've read from Sandy (thanks btw..).

I am debating just laying all the cards out on the table for the interviewer

" I know all of your questions and I have the answers ready.. let me send them to you an e-mail. Let's have a real discussion about Wharton and whether it's right for me."

I really don't understand why you think it's a fiasco?

1. Behavioral interview is a popular method to interview and is used by top companies as well as schools (MIT). So what's wrong with Wharton using it?

2. I respect Sandy's opinion but please don't blindly go by what he thinks. If you look back at some of his posts about Wharton, it's pretty clear he doesn't like their adcom/admission process/ interview/ campus/.... He even thought that their essays for this year and last year (and maybe earlier too) were useless and boring. While he is entitled to his opinion, I certainly didn't think there was anything wrong with Wharton essays at all! Between Sandy and Wharton adcom, I would certainly have greater faith in Wharton adcom's ability to figure out what essays are appropriate for WHARTON. Anybody can write a page about how boring essays for school [X] are.

3. There's too much noise about the secret list of questions Wharton is asking which truly is hilarious. Wharton adcom is more than aware of how students collaborate on forums and elsewhere. Let's give them some credit! They are intelligent enough to figure out that asking the same questions to ~1000 students over a 1 month period wouldn't be fair. I am sure they have a database of behavioral based questions to ask from and "the 8 secret questions" are just a sample from that database. Not everyone around the world will get asked the same question.

OK.....after all this rant...what I would say is that we should all prepare the best we can since that is in our control. Interview questions/adcom mood/ alumni biases/ weather conditions cannot be controlled by us so it would help to clear our mind of those thoughts!

Wharton has been a top school for decades.They KNOW what they are doing. Sandy is an amazing resource and has a wealth of knowledge but as applicant we should take his opinion with a grain of salt and make our own judgments.

Personally, I loved the Wharton essays this year.
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for those who may have missed this:

https://engage.wharton.upenn.edu/MBA/blo ... und-1.aspx

clearly mentions that interviews will have behavioral questions and answers other FAQs

pleeeze, that is CYA "fine print" post (dated quite recently, and sorta impssble to act on by early interview takers) that could only be fully understood after the Questions leaked and this rukkus began, and it does not say that the interview in TOTO will be 3 questions, out of possible 6, and the same questions will be asked to everyone, and your answers will written down and faxed to adcom by a monkey-scribe. I also love this final tip

The key is to relax, be genuine, and enjoy the opportunity for us to get to know one another.
How exactly? when the interviewer instructs you at the get go not to be spooked by the fact he is not really looking at you, but instead writing down what you say? And what kind of oppty are they offering to get to know a contract worker who does not have an MBA and did not go to Wharton.
No, the key is actually to prepare your brains out, read blogs like this, and create some BS answer which hits their grading grid of McKinsey BS about adding value, providing oppty for others to be heard, facilitating compromise, taking initiative, and also baking cookies and leading the clean up. My model answer, in prev post, was actually BETTER than their grid since it included some reflection on what could have been improved, if you were to do same thing again (no pts for that on their grade sheet), and some ethical considerations about how flexible to be w. legal standards for low cost insulun testing devices.
The entire Wharton culture surrounding this process is one of top-down command and control process and micro management --down to grading guides out to decimal pts, secrecy, standardized instructions, and their MANTRA of metricize everything.
Dont they trust their own friggin adcom members and students to be able to make a sensible and humane acct of who wld fit in class, and whether anyone cannot communicate or speak English?? Apparently not. The document you cite us to is typical Orwellian Big Brother Double Speak, and that is what this process reminds me of. And just who is going to read all those faxes by the way, a warehouse full of notes by donkey alums? really rich.

Ok, honestly Sandy, we get it. You're not a fan of the new Wharton process. I don't think I'm alone here when I say the following: Please get over it and try to be a bit more constructive.

haha, above post was constructive, no???? it denoted what they are looking for in Grade 4 answer, how constructive do you want me to be??? I told them to publish the questions, I told them why process is lousy and how easy fixes wld backfire? I alerted them to problems they will have in Round 2 of this process, I reported on discontent over being interviewed by contract workers, dunno, all that was w. gusto but serious and useful.
The time to be a total Wharton zealot is AFTER you get in, for now, try being a savvy applicant who picks up tips wherever he can. Don't blame the delivery boy.
I will cop to having this push my buttons, since I am anti-authoritarian by nature, and I will cop to being relentless about it, but as noted many times, readers can ignore me, they cannot ignore this idiot process.
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There's too much noise about the secret list of questions Wharton is asking which truly is hilarious. Wharton adcom is more than aware of how students collaborate on forums and elsewhere. Let's give them some credit! They are intelligent enough to figure out that asking the same questions to ~1000 students over a 1 month period wouldn't be fair. I am sure they have a database of behavioral based questions to ask from and "the 8 secret questions" are just a sample from that database. Not everyone around the world will get asked the same question.
Ahem, my friend, do you want to eat those words with salt or jam???? There are only 6 potential questions, and instructions to alums and adcoms and contract workers are quite clear to ask only those questions. One of two in each of three req catagories I've taken the training--the fact that everyone is being asked same questions is a PLUS to adcom. But I take it, not to you???? They may change that, sort of the way Mao changed the five year plan, but right now, comrade, that is the party line.
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this blog brings serious anxiety leading up to my interview on Friday morning. Now, i don't even know how to prepare and I think i should stop reading it....
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This interview fiasco is seriously hurting my image of the school

I am interviewing this Thursday with an alumnus and of course will prepare robust answers to each of the questions I've read from Sandy (thanks btw..).

I am debating just laying all the cards out on the table for the interviewer

" I know all of your questions and I have the answers ready.. let me send them to you an e-mail. Let's have a real discussion about Wharton and whether it's right for me."

I really don't understand why you think it's a fiasco?

1. Behavioral interview is a popular method to interview and is used by top companies as well as schools (MIT). So what's wrong with Wharton using it?

2. I respect Sandy's opinion but please don't blindly go by what he thinks. If you look back at some of his posts about Wharton, it's pretty clear he doesn't like their adcom/admission process/ interview/ campus/.... He even thought that their essays for this year and last year (and maybe earlier too) were useless and boring. While he is entitled to his opinion, I certainly didn't think there was anything wrong with Wharton essays at all! Between Sandy and Wharton adcom, I would certainly have greater faith in Wharton adcom's ability to figure out what essays are appropriate for WHARTON. Anybody can write a page about how boring essays for school [X] are.

3. There's too much noise about the secret list of questions Wharton is asking which truly is hilarious. Wharton adcom is more than aware of how students collaborate on forums and elsewhere. Let's give them some credit! They are intelligent enough to figure out that asking the same questions to ~1000 students over a 1 month period wouldn't be fair. I am sure they have a database of behavioral based questions to ask from and "the 8 secret questions" are just a sample from that database. Not everyone around the world will get asked the same question.

OK.....after all this rant...what I would say is that we should all prepare the best we can since that is in our control. Interview questions/adcom mood/ alumni biases/ weather conditions cannot be controlled by us so it would help to clear our mind of those thoughts!

Wharton has been a top school for decades.They KNOW what they are doing. Sandy is an amazing resource and has a wealth of knowledge but as applicant we should take his opinion with a grain of salt and make our own judgments.

Personally, I loved the Wharton essays this year.

Oh I loved their questions too! I even like their interview process because it's new and challenging! Sandy's posts have certainly helped me prepare well even though I would disagree with him on how good/bad the Wharton process is! Good luck Staind :) When's your interview? Mine's on 19th morning and I will be traveling all the way to Philly (from Houston) for the interview. I hope I don't get stuck in the stupid philly marathon!
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I really don't understand why you think it's a fiasco?

1. Behavioral interview is a popular method to interview and is used by top companies as well as schools (MIT). So what's wrong with Wharton using it?

2. I respect Sandy's opinion but please don't blindly go by what he thinks. If you look back at some of his posts about Wharton, it's pretty clear he doesn't like their adcom/admission process/ interview/ campus/.... He even thought that their essays for this year and last year (and maybe earlier too) were useless and boring. While he is entitled to his opinion, I certainly didn't think there was anything wrong with Wharton essays at all! Between Sandy and Wharton adcom, I would certainly have greater faith in Wharton adcom's ability to figure out what essays are appropriate for WHARTON. Anybody can write a page about how boring essays for school [X] are.

3. There's too much noise about the secret list of questions Wharton is asking which truly is hilarious. Wharton adcom is more than aware of how students collaborate on forums and elsewhere. Let's give them some credit! They are intelligent enough to figure out that asking the same questions to ~1000 students over a 1 month period wouldn't be fair. I am sure they have a database of behavioral based questions to ask from and "the 8 secret questions" are just a sample from that database. Not everyone around the world will get asked the same question.

OK.....after all this rant...what I would say is that we should all prepare the best we can since that is in our control. Interview questions/adcom mood/ alumni biases/ weather conditions cannot be controlled by us so it would help to clear our mind of those thoughts!

Wharton has been a top school for decades.They KNOW what they are doing. Sandy is an amazing resource and has a wealth of knowledge but as applicant we should take his opinion with a grain of salt and make our own judgments.

Personally, I loved the Wharton essays this year.

Oh I loved their questions too! I even like their interview process because it's new and challenging! Sandy's posts have certainly helped me prepare well even though I would disagree with him on how good/bad the Wharton process is! Good luck Staind :) When's your interview? Mine's on 19th morning and I will be traveling all the way to Philly (from Houston) for the interview. I hope I don't get stuck in the stupid philly marathon!

Mine are going to be on the 24th or 25th (Lauder + regular) in Sydney.. still being confirmed with the alumni.. the marathon is on the 21st so you should be fine! Good luck! Looks like a lot of people are doing it around the 18th/19th.. its going to be one long month from then on!
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staind? what lauder track are you applying for?

I will be anxiously reading this thread the next few days to see how interviews went... good luck everyone
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Ahem, my friend, do you want to eat those words with salt or jam???? There are only 6 potential questions, and instructions to alums and adcoms and contract workers are quite clear to ask only those questions. One of two in each of three req catagories I've taken the training--the fact that everyone is being asked same questions is a PLUS to adcom. But I take it, not to you???? They may change that, sort of the way Mao changed the five year plan, but right now, comrade, that is the party line.

Well Jam's good with words. Keeps it sweet!!

My point: Wharton can have 6-60-6million questions. I respect Wharton's judgment in designing the process for their school and I am confident of doing well. If I do get rejected though, it would be because of my inability to perform during the interview. I do not think there is anything wrong with the process (Of Course you can have your own opinion on this Sandy).

I was invited to interview with Wharton because I've successfully dealt with tough/unreasonable situations before. Wharton interview process will NOT be the toughest thing I've ever faced.

Thanks for your help though!
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staind? what lauder track are you applying for?

I will be anxiously reading this thread the next few days to see how interviews went... good luck everyone

Hindi.. are you doing a Lauder interview as well?
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Wow! Sandy The Guru has certainly created a bit of a calamity here about the new process :kiss . I personally especially admire the "Wharton Robot" part :clap: , which suggests that to beat the interview mechanism, it is best not to memorize questions and answers effectively turning yourself into a mediocre robot, but to ace robotics :lol:, i.e. remain human.
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Shifting gears slightly, while still remaining relevant to the Lauder question, I was wondering if any current students/alumni had experience taking language classes while enrolled in Wharton as a non-Lauder person. Is it easy to fit into the schedule, and will it be with undergraduates?
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good plan, I love your "picture,"-- good model of how to be, serene, and natural, but also photoshopped a bit and the result, no doubt, of 10 or more takes.
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Shifting gears slightly, while still remaining relevant to the Lauder question, I was wondering if any current students/alumni had experience taking language classes while enrolled in Wharton as a non-Lauder person. Is it easy to fit into the schedule, and will it be with undergraduates?

"Wharton encourages students to use some of their elective credits to pursue language study at the advanced or business level and also offers specialized English language programs for international business students. Students are welcome to take elective courses beyond the program’s requirements, but do incur additional tuition for courses over the 21 cu maximum."
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Yea, I am doing spanish track.
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Shifting gears slightly, while still remaining relevant to the Lauder question, I was wondering if any current students/alumni had experience taking language classes while enrolled in Wharton as a non-Lauder person. Is it easy to fit into the schedule, and will it be with undergraduates?

"Wharton encourages students to use some of their elective credits to pursue language study at the advanced or business level and also offers specialized English language programs for international business students. Students are welcome to take elective courses beyond the program’s requirements, but do incur additional tuition for courses over the 21 cu maximum."

Nice. I've been hoping to be able to brunch up on my Chinese while in business school. I'm sure there'll be a huge community there to practice with in my spare time. Assuming I have spare time.
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Shifting gears slightly, while still remaining relevant to the Lauder question, I was wondering if any current students/alumni had experience taking language classes while enrolled in Wharton as a non-Lauder person. Is it easy to fit into the schedule, and will it be with undergraduates?

"Wharton encourages students to use some of their elective credits to pursue language study at the advanced or business level and also offers specialized English language programs for international business students. Students are welcome to take elective courses beyond the program’s requirements, but do incur additional tuition for courses over the 21 cu maximum."

Nice. I've been hoping to be able to brunch up on my Chinese while in business school. I'm sure there'll be a huge community there to practice with in my spare time. Assuming I have spare time.

Maybe you'll have a Chinese speaker in your learning team! I'm sure the cohort will have a few at least.
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