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correlation between no. of incorrect questions and quant raw score? [#permalink] New post   11 Apr 2021, 13:04
I have given the free official practice tests.

In test 1 I scored Q42 with 9 questions incorrect, while in the second one I scored Q44 with 17 incorrect.

What should I make out of these figures?

I understand the basic working of the algorithm but am unable to comprehend such inconsistent numbers.

How should I judge my progress? Please help.
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Re: correlation between no. of incorrect questions and quant raw score? [#permalink] New post   11 Apr 2021, 13:49
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There is no correlation if you take into consideration the whole spectrum of data.

There is so correlation if you look at the middle 30% of data but that’s cherry-picking. Due to the way the algorithm works, it is not possible to evaluate performance based on the number of incorrect answers. They could all be of a different difficulty. There are also implications of early and late questions. If you miss many questions upfront, you will never catch up.

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In this case how should I look at these scores? So that I can make a strategy ahead. I am looking at q48 atleast.
just that you made a lot of mistake in 600 level questions
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correlation between no. of incorrect questions and quant raw score? [#permalink] New post   Updated on: 12 Apr 2021, 19:33
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Hi Varun1193,

The scoring algorithm on the Official GMAT is far more complicated than most people realize - and it considers far more than just the number of correct and incorrect answers. It's also worth noting that you will see a number of 'Experimental' questions that do NOT count towards your Score (so how you performed on those questions could lead to the 'disparity' that you have noted in your 2 CAT/mock results).

Before I can offer you any additional advice for your studies, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) How long have you studied? How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) What study materials have you used so far?
3) On what dates (or approximate dates) did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?

Goals:
4) What is your overall goal score?
5) When are you planning to apply to Business School and what Schools are you planning to apply to?

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Re: correlation between no. of incorrect questions and quant raw score? [#permalink] New post   12 Apr 2021, 19:38
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Hi Varun1193,

Many GMATers find the Quant section, the Verbal section or both to be challenging, so you are not alone. Thankfully, the Verbal section is as consistent and predictable as the Quant section is, so you CAN train to score at a higher level. That having been said, statistically-speaking, raising your current level to the point that you can consistently score 700+ will likely require that you commit to at least another 3 months of consistent, guided study - and you'll have to make significant improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Based on your current timeline though, you're planning for about 1.5 to 2.5 months of additional study time - and you might end up needing more than that.

1) Are you planning to take the At-home GMAT or are you planning to take your GMAT at a Test Facility?
2) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

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correlation between no. of incorrect questions and quant raw score? [#permalink] New post   11 Apr 2021, 13:07
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There is no correlation if you take into consideration the whole spectrum of data.

There is so correlation if you look at the middle 30% of data but that’s cherry-picking. Due to the way the algorithm works, it is not possible to evaluate performance based on the number of incorrect answers. They could all be of a different difficulty. There are also implications of early and late questions. If you miss many questions upfront, you will never catch up.

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Re: correlation between no. of incorrect questions and quant raw score? [#permalink] New post   11 Apr 2021, 13:17
bb wrote:
There is no correlation if you take into consideration the whole spectrum of data.

There is so correlation if you look at the middle 30% of data but that’s cherry-picking. Due to the way the algorithm works, it is not possible to evaluate performance based on the number of incorrect answers. They could all be of a different difficulty. There are also implications of early and late questions. If you miss many questions upfront, you will never catch up.

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In this case how should I look at these scores? So that I can make a strategy ahead. I am looking at q48 atleast.
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Re: correlation between no. of incorrect questions and quant raw score? [#permalink] New post   11 Apr 2021, 21:44
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi Varun1193,

The scoring algorithm on the Official GMAT is far more complicated than most people realize - and it considers far more than just the number of correct and incorrect answers. It's also worth noting that you will see a number of 'Experimental' questions that do NOT count towards your Score (so how you performed on those questions could lead to the 'disparity' that you have noted in your 2 CAT/mock restyles).

Before I can offer you any additional advice for your studies, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) How long have you studied? How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) What study materials have you used so far?
3) On what dates (or approximate dates) did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?

Goals:
4) What is your overall goal score?
5) When are you planning to apply to Business School and what Schools are you planning to apply to?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich



Studies:

1) I have been studying for the last 4 months. For last 2 months, I have been studying around 3 hrs a day.

2) I have used OG and Jamboree online portal. Have started with Egmat for verbal from the last week.

3) Test dates and scores:
a) ManhattanPrep Test: Nov 15 2020 (Q29, V16 gave with no prep)
b) Official Test 1: Mar 23 2021 (Q42, V7 where I did not attempt the verbal section as I was not confident)
c) Official Test 2: Apr 11 2021 (Q44, V15 I fairly understand the verbal concepts but am just unable to approach questions which broke me during the test)

Goals:

4) 700+ is what I am aiming at. (May end or June first half is when I am planning to take the test.)
5) ISB India, NUS Singapore, Duke Fuqua US.

After yesterday's test I am feeling a bit lost. Don't know where I am going wrong in verbal and how should I perceive the quant scores. Not able to decide the strategy ahead.
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Re: correlation between no. of incorrect questions and quant raw score? [#permalink] New post   11 Apr 2021, 23:00
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Varun1193 wrote:
I have given the free official practice tests.

In test 1 I scored Q42 with 9 questions incorrect, while in the second one I scored Q44 with 17 incorrect.

What should I make out of these figures?

I understand the basic working of the algorithm but am unable to comprehend such inconsistent numbers.

How should I judge my progress? Please help.


Hi Varun1193,

Number of questions is not the right parameter to assess the score. GMAT algorithm is a lot more complex than that. You can go through the below article and recording to understand it better.

How to calculate GMAT scores?




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Re: correlation between no. of incorrect questions and quant raw score? [#permalink] New post   13 Apr 2021, 10:30
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi Varun1193,

Many GMATers find the Quant section, the Verbal section or both to be challenging, so you are not alone. Thankfully, the Verbal section is as consistent and predictable as the Quant section is, so you CAN train to score at a higher level. That having been said, statistically-speaking, raising your current level to the point that you can consistently score 700+ will likely require that you commit to at least another 3 months of consistent, guided study - and you'll have to make significant improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Based on your current timeline though, you're planning for about 1.5 to 2.5 months of additional study time - and you might end up needing more than that.

1) Are you planning to take the At-home GMAT or are you planning to take your GMAT at a Test Facility?
2) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich


Okay. Thanks for the input on the expected time that would be required.

1) I am planning to take the GMAT at a Test Facility.
2) I will be able to give around 35-40 hrs a week.
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correlation between no. of incorrect questions and quant raw score? [#permalink] New post   13 Apr 2021, 19:49
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Hi Varun1193,

Since you have questions regarding how the GMAT is scored, here is a helpful article:

How Is the GMAT Exam Scored?

If you need any advice on how to move forward with your GMAT studying, feel free to reach out.
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Re: correlation between no. of incorrect questions and quant raw score? [#permalink] New post   13 Apr 2021, 20:18
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I've sent you a PM with some notes and additional questions.

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