bnossn wrote:
Shouldn't we take into consideration that order does not matter in this case?
I mean, if we simply multiply the options we are counting two times the same flavours but with different order, aren't we?
Shikhar22 wrote:
AndrewN Hi Andrew. Hope you're well. I'm slightly confused as to why the 'order matters' in the above question? And, in general, how to guage which case demands an ordered list and which one does not?
Shikhar22 wrote:
I reckon, my question is flawed, since there is no relevance to order in this question at all as each item is from different category. But, I’d like your views on how to decide when order matters and when it doesn’t. Thank you!
I was just getting ready to write a response when your second post came through,
Shikhar22. Nice catch—
there is no relevance to order in this question. That is, there is no reason that ice cream must be selected first, candies second, and so on. So, how can you tell when order matters and when it does not? You have to think logically about the question at hand, to be honest. The same type of question could be phrased slightly differently to convey different meanings, and you would have to adjust your approach accordingly.
As a general rule, if you see "identical" or "the same," you should treat the objects as the same, and order will not matter. Examples might be six of the same color of marble, three white cars (which will be treated as one type of car, based on color), or gold keys on a keychain (versus, say, silver keys, which themselves would be treated the same way, by color). If you are asked to arrange the letters in a word, you want to weed out repetitions by the same logic. The country name "Canada" looks like a handful until you reduce the possible combinations by the number of repetitions of "a":
\(\frac{6!}{3!}\)
\(6*5*4\)
\(120\)
Think about it: How could you tell the difference between "cndaaa" and "cndaaa," if the first "a" swapped places with the second? They look the same, so, unless we are to introduce subscripts, they are the same.
As another general rule, unless one selection affects the next, you do not need to think about order. For a simple example, consider a jar with three marbles, one yellow, one red, one blue. If a question asked about the probability of selecting the blue marble,
then the red one—without putting anything back—you could not simply multiply a third and a third, because once the blue marble has been selected, it (as well as one marble in general) has been removed, and that affects the probability.
\(\frac{1}{3} * \frac{1}{3} = \frac{1}{9}\)
X\(\frac{1}{3} * \frac{1}{2} = \frac{1}{6}\)
√I would urge you to take a look at
this post on combinatorics, as well as the appropriate section, Section 21, of the
Ultimate GMAT Quantitative Megathread for reference.
I hope this all proves helpful. Thank you for thinking to ask.
- Andrew