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In addition to having more protein than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat, with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.

(A) the protein in rice is higher quality than that in

(B) rice has protein of higher quality than that in

(C) the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in

(D) rice protein is higher in quality than it is in

(E) rice has a protein higher in quality than

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In addition to having more protein - than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat, with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.

Explanation:
Here the phrase ‘In addition to’ modifies 'rice' so, we can do away with options A, C & D.
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(A) the protein in rice is higher quality than that in --–> Discard it. Reason explained above.

(B) rice has protein of higher quality than that in ---> Correct.

(C) the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in --–> Discard it. Reason explained above.

(D) rice protein is higher in quality than it is in --–> Discard it. Reason explained above.

(E) rice has a protein higher in quality than ---> Compares a protein with wheat, which is not the intended meaning of the original sentence. The original sentence intends to compare protein in rice with protein in wheat. Also, use of 'a' before 'protein' again changes the original meaning of the sentence. So, discard it.
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My choice is option B.

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In addition to having more protein -than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat,with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.
(A) the protein in rice is higher quality than that in
(B) rice has protein of higher quality than that in
(C) the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in
(D) rice protein is higher in quality than it is in
(E) rice has a protein higher in quality than


B

In addition to having more protein -than wheat does, modifies "rice"

SC is testing " Comparision"
A,C.D- > OUT -Apples to oranges - "the protein in rice" to wheat
E-> OUT -Apples to oranges - "quality of protein in rice" to wheat
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In addition to having more protein -than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat,with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.

comparison is b/w WHEAT and the thing in red!

so eliminate- A,C,D because RICE has to be compared with Wheat not the PROTEIN OR RICE PROTEIN!

B/W B AND E

eliminate E because -"rice has a protein higher in quality than wheat
incorrect comparison ..!
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i think E is wrong because of wrong comparison between protein and wheat rather than comparing protein in rice with protein(or use that) in wheat .....
E states that
rice has a protein higher in quality than wheat
thus changes the meaning.
correct me if i am wrong.
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In addition to having more protein than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat,with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.

(A) the protein in rice is higher quality than that in
(B) rice has protein of higher quality than that in
(C) the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in
(D) rice protein is higher in quality than it is in
(E) rice has a protein higher in quality than


Everyone is saying A,C,D are wrong. PLease explain


This part is an initial modifier

In addition to having more protein than wheat does, ---- it refers to the next noun.
If you put the word "protein" right after it, you are saying that "the protein [in addition to having more protein than wheat does]" <--this is not correct : it's logically flawed.

Who/what has more protein than wheat ? the rice. Hence the word rice should follow that modifier.

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having good spirit, I learn gmat

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the first is prepositional phrase, which dose not need to refer to subject of main clause

the second is participle phrase, which refer to subject of main clause.

the third is participle phrase with preposition, which, similar to participle phrase,refers to the subject of main clause.

this sc problem is the case 3

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Hi Experts, can you please explain why E is wrong - To me it seems like rice has a protein higher in qality than wheat has. What is wrong.
Also, in B - I dont think its correct. rice has proein of higher quality than THAT - what THAT refers to.?


Both your questions are in fact related: The comparison must between the protein in rice and the protein in wheat.

In B, the pronoun "that" is used to refer to protein (creating a new copy of the antecedent - a typical use of "that": see below*).

In E, the comparison is between protein (in rice) and wheat. (If the word "has" were there, the comparison would be alright. But without "has", the comparison becomes problematic.)

(*Use of "that" to create new copy: The car I have is bigger than that you have.)
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Hi Experts,
Although I selected B as OA, can you tell me what's wrong with E.
I guess this Q is testing comparison. So basically protein level in wheat and rice are being compared. Based on this, A,C, D are out. what is difference between verbose of B and E?
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Hi adkikani
E is comparing Protein with Wheat. Here's the comparison,
rice has a protein higher in quality than Wheat .
Hence, its an incorrect comparison.

With the insertion of "that" as in B, the comparison becomes correct,
rice has protein of higher quality than that[=protein] in wheat.

Also note that, in most cases, there will be more than one split. In E, "a protein" is also incorrect. Another reason to eliminate E.

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Hi Experts,
Although I selected B as OA, can you tell me what's wrong with E.
I guess this Q is testing comparison. So basically protein level in wheat and rice are being compared. Based on this, A,C, D are out. what is difference between verbose of B and E?
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Hi Experts,
Although I selected B as OA, can you tell me what's wrong with E.
I guess this Q is testing comparison. So basically protein level in wheat and rice are being compared. Based on this, A,C, D are out. what is difference between verbose of B and E?
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Hi adkikani
E is comparing Protein with Wheat. Here's the comparison,
rice has a protein higher in quality than Wheat .
Hence, its an incorrect comparison.

With the insertion of "that" as in B, the comparison becomes correct,
rice has protein of higher quality than that[=protein] in wheat.

Also note that, in most cases, there will be more than one split. In E, "a protein" is also incorrect. Another reason to eliminate E.

Cheers !! :-D


Thank you for your effort to explain the comparison issue - but the explanation has a bit of flaw - be cautious of the following trap:
It is acceptable to omit repeated words from the second element of a parallel structure, IF the meaning is not obscured.
I like chocolates more than Madhu. ...... Wrong - ambiguous
The above sentence may have 2 meanings:
1. I like chocolates. Madhu likes chocolates. But I like chocolates more than Madhu does.
2. I like chocolates. I like Madhu. But I like chocolates more than I like Madhu.

So here the omission is NOT allowed. The correct sentence would be:
EITHER
I like chocolates more than Madhu does.
OR
I like chocolates more than I like Madhu.

Now compare with the following:
Rice has more protein than wheat.... correct - not ambiguous
The above sentence CANNOT have 2 meanings as before:
1. Rice has proteins. Wheat has proteins. But rice has more proteins than wheat does... OK.
2. Rice has proteins. Rice has wheat. But rice has more proteins than rice has wheat.. this usage does not make sense.

Hence out of the possible two meanings:
1. Rice has more proteins than wheat (does).
2. Rice has more proteins than (rice has) wheat.
, the second one does not make sense. Hence in this case omission is acceptable.


Thus the only reason that one can eliminate E is the usage of "a protein". You cannot really eliminate E on the basis of parallelism.
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In this sentence, the initial clause modifies the nearest noun, identifying it as the thing being compared with wheat. By making protein the noun modified, choices A, C, and D illogically compare wheat with protein and claim that the protein in rice has more protein than wheat does. In C and D, the comparative structure higher in quality than it is in wheat absurdly suggests that rice protein contains wheat. B, the best choice, logically compares wheat to rice by placing the noun rice immediately after the initial clause. B also uses that to refer to protein in making the comparison between the proteins of rice and wheat. Choice E needs either that in or does after wheat to make a complete and logical comparison.
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In addition to having more protein -than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat,
with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.
(A) the protein in rice is higher quality than that in
(B) rice has protein of higher quality than that in
(C) the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in
(D) rice protein is higher in quality than it is in
(E) rice has a protein higher in quality than

Can someone please explain the options. thanks
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In addition to having more protein -than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat,
with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.
(A) the protein in rice is higher quality than that in
(B) rice has protein of higher quality than that in
(C) the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in
(D) rice protein is higher in quality than it is in
(E) rice has a protein higher in quality than

Can someone please explain the options. thanks



"in addition to" is normally a conjuction, which connect two similar entities in a sentence but in this problem, "in addtion to " work as an preposition, which stand before a noun or similar thing to noun and which dose not need two similar things to work.
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in addition to having more protein refers to rice here..A and C are out...in D 'it' refers to rice protein..wrong..we need to compare protein in rice with protein in wheat.E compares protein in rice with wheat..wrong again.. correct choice should be B

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In addition to having more protein -than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat,
with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.
(A) the protein in rice is higher quality than that in
(B) rice has protein of higher quality than that in
(C) the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in
(D) rice protein is higher in quality than it is in
(E) rice has a protein higher in quality than

Can someone please explain the options. thanks


(A) the protein in rice is higher quality than that in: Wrong comparison- 'the protein in rice' can not have 'more protein'
(B) rice has protein of higher quality than that(protein) in : best Comparison between Two types of Protein
(C) the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in: Wrong comparison- 'the protein in rice' can not have 'more protein'
(D) rice protein is higher in quality than it is in: Wrong comparison- 'rice protein' can not have 'more protein'
(E) rice has a protein higher in quality than (wheat) : Wrong Comparison-Rice's Protein compared with Wheat
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adkikani wrote:
Hi Experts,
Although I selected B as OA, can you tell me what's wrong with E.
I guess this Q is testing comparison. So basically protein level in wheat and rice are being compared. Based on this, A,C, D are out. what is difference between verbose of B and E?
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adkikani wrote:
Hi Experts,
Although I selected B as OA, can you tell me what's wrong with E.
I guess this Q is testing comparison. So basically protein level in wheat and rice are being compared. Based on this, A,C, D are out. what is difference between verbose of B and E?
WR, Arpit


Hi adkikani
E is comparing Protein with Wheat. Here's the comparison,
rice has a protein higher in quality than Wheat .
Hence, its an incorrect comparison.

With the insertion of "that" as in B, the comparison becomes correct,
rice has protein of higher quality than that[=protein] in wheat.

Also note that, in most cases, there will be more than one split. In E, "a protein" is also incorrect. Another reason to eliminate E.

Cheers !! :-D


Thank you for your effort to explain the comparison issue - but the explanation has a bit of flaw - be cautious of the following trap:
It is acceptable to omit repeated words from the second element of a parallel structure, IF the meaning is not obscured.
I like chocolates more than Madhu. ...... Wrong - ambiguous
The above sentence may have 2 meanings:
1. I like chocolates. Madhu likes chocolates. But I like chocolates more than Madhu does.
2. I like chocolates. I like Madhu. But I like chocolates more than I like Madhu.

So here the omission is NOT allowed. The correct sentence would be:
EITHER
I like chocolates more than Madhu does.
OR
I like chocolates more than I like Madhu.

Now compare with the following:
Rice has more protein than wheat.... correct - not ambiguous
The above sentence CANNOT have 2 meanings as before:
1. Rice has proteins. Wheat has proteins. But rice has more proteins than wheat does... OK.
2. Rice has proteins. Rice has wheat. But rice has more proteins than rice has wheat.. this usage does not make sense.

Hence out of the possible two meanings:
1. Rice has more proteins than wheat (does).
2. Rice has more proteins than (rice has) wheat.
, the second one does not make sense. Hence in this case omission is acceptable.


Thus the only reason that one can eliminate E is the usage of "a protein". You cannot really eliminate E on the basis of parallelism.


Dear sayantanc2k , I stumbled upon on your excellent explanation.

In short, can I say that option E is correct in term of comparison BUT wrong just because "a protein"?

I felt that the comparison in E is perfectly fine.
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Hi Experts sayantanc2k GMATNinja,

can we say that in C and D, the comparison is something like below?

The protein in rice is higher in quality that it [protein in rice] is in wheat. --- So here we are actually comparing quality and wheat in rice protein, illogically suggesting that protein in rice has wheat and that rice protein has higher quality than it has wheat.

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In addition to having more protein than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat, with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.

(A) the protein in rice is higher quality than that in

(B) rice has protein of higher quality than that in

(C) the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in

(D) rice protein is higher in quality than it is in

(E) rice has a protein higher in quality than


The first part of this sentence sets up a comparison.

When we get to the comma, we should STOP and ask the question that the introduction raises.

So, once we read, In addition to having more protein than wheat does, we should stop and ask . . .

"Who or what has more protein than wheat does?"

If the sentence is properly constructed, the part that immediately follows the comma will answer that question in a logical manner.

Reading on we get...

A) the protein in rice...
What? The protein (in rice) has more protein that wheat does?
Makes no sense.
ELIMINATE A

B) rice ....
So rice has more protein that wheat does.
This makes sense.
KEEP B

C) the protein in rice...
The protein (in rice) has more protein that wheat does?
Makes no sense.
ELIMINATE C

D) rice protein...
Rice protein has more protein that wheat does?
Makes no sense.
ELIMINATE D

E) rice ....
So rice has more protein that wheat does.
This makes sense.
KEEP E

We're down to B and E
B) rice has protein of higher quality than that in
The word that properly serves as a placeholder for protein
In other words, rice has protein of higher quality than the protein in wheat...
PERFECT!

E) rice has a protein higher in quality than wheat
This is a faulty comparison
It suggests that rice PROTEIN is better than WHEAT.
The intended meaning is that rice PROTEIN is better than wheat PROTEIN.
ELIMINATE E

Answer: B

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adkikani wrote:
Hi Experts,
Although I selected B as OA, can you tell me what's wrong with E.
I guess this Q is testing comparison. So basically protein level in wheat and rice are being compared. Based on this, A,C, D are out. what is difference between verbose of B and E?
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adkikani wrote:
Hi Experts,
Although I selected B as OA, can you tell me what's wrong with E.
I guess this Q is testing comparison. So basically protein level in wheat and rice are being compared. Based on this, A,C, D are out. what is difference between verbose of B and E?
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Hi adkikani
E is comparing Protein with Wheat. Here's the comparison,
rice has a protein higher in quality than Wheat .
Hence, its an incorrect comparison.

With the insertion of "that" as in B, the comparison becomes correct,
rice has protein of higher quality than that[=protein] in wheat.

Also note that, in most cases, there will be more than one split. In E, "a protein" is also incorrect. Another reason to eliminate E.

Cheers !! :-D


Thank you for your effort to explain the comparison issue - but the explanation has a bit of flaw - be cautious of the following trap:
It is acceptable to omit repeated words from the second element of a parallel structure, IF the meaning is not obscured.
I like chocolates more than Madhu. ...... Wrong - ambiguous
The above sentence may have 2 meanings:
1. I like chocolates. Madhu likes chocolates. But I like chocolates more than Madhu does.
2. I like chocolates. I like Madhu. But I like chocolates more than I like Madhu.

So here the omission is NOT allowed. The correct sentence would be:
EITHER
I like chocolates more than Madhu does.
OR
I like chocolates more than I like Madhu.

Now compare with the following:
Rice has more protein than wheat.... correct - not ambiguous
The above sentence CANNOT have 2 meanings as before:
1. Rice has proteins. Wheat has proteins. But rice has more proteins than wheat does... OK.
2. Rice has proteins. Rice has wheat. But rice has more proteins than rice has wheat.. this usage does not make sense.

Hence out of the possible two meanings:
1. Rice has more proteins than wheat (does).
2. Rice has more proteins than (rice has) wheat.
, the second one does not make sense. Hence in this case omission is acceptable.


Thus the only reason that one can eliminate E is the usage of "a protein". You cannot really eliminate E on the basis of parallelism.


thansk sayantanc2k ,
Excellent explanation of E , an ambiguity that i always neglect.

Would you please further elaborate the new copy "that" in Choice B ?
I am confused "that" should refer to "protein" or "protein of higher quality" ?
I cross off B because it is illogical to say rice has protein of higher quality than protein of higher quality in wheat.
What we need to compare is which one has higher quality protein, it is nonsensible to say both comparable events have higher quality protein.

mikemcgarry, GMATNinjaTwo, GMATNinja, MagooshExpert Carolyn,
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Thanks in advance.

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