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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state

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Can anyone explain what is wrong with option E.


Hi,
The crux of the para is that ..
the people who maove from one state to another has dropped down by 3 percent in last ten years. Therefore, the business specially catering towards this set of people is likely to suffer..

Before we go to E, the point which one should immediately catch on is that the arguement is based on %, which does not give us the exact scenario or numbers.. so for weakening, the choice more than often will play on % and numbers year on year..

now to E..

E. Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.
Florida may still be getting the main chunk, but if the % and the number has gone down, businesses will have less people to cater to.
we are already taking the point of,say, maximum retirees and have business that much spread/grown, but now with decreasing %/numbers, the businesses are likely to lose..

this is why E is wrong
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Hi Karishma,
Can you elaborate on why E should be eliminated.
I basically want to be sure that the reason for eliminating this choice is correct at my end.
Is it correct to think that how Florida attracts retirees compared to other states does not have an impact on weakening the conclusion whereas as long as the total number of people who have retired and moved to Florida is greater than the 3% of the people who have moved out of Florida.



Yes, you are right. Whether Florida is the state that gets the most number of people or second most number of people etc is immaterial.
As long as it retains (or increases) the number of people settling there after retirement, its economy will not be affected. We know that in percentage terms, number of people retiring to Florida has decreased but in absolute terms, the number of people retiring there could actually have stayed same or even increased. If more people are retiring now, a smaller percentage could still lead to more actual number (as shown in my post above). The comparison of number of people shifting to Florida now is only with the number of people who shifted to Florida ten years back. Number of people shifting to any other state has nothing to do with this argument.
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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?

(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average, last year than such people did ten years ago.
(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were ten years ago.
(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly over the past ten years.
(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.
(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.


Let's take an example, let suppose initially 100% people retired to Florida of total 100 retired in US, so how many people came to Florida is 100, now this year, the percentage decreased to 97% but according to OPTION C the number of people retired in US have increased, let's say to 200. So 194 people arrived in Florida, instead of 100. And that will increase the business! So will weaken the argument. Hope you liked the explanation. #Kudos
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The answer is straightforward C.


In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, this decline is likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average,last year than such people did ten years ago.
WRONG:- Irrelevant. We are concerned with number of people moving to florida. Distance has nothing to do with the argument.

(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were ten years ago.
WRONG:- Clever trap. "Likely to retire" is not equal to "definitely retired" ... I am likely to be a movie star does not translate to I am a movie star. Likely introduces a concept of uncertainty and thus cannot be taken as a proper answer.

(C)The total number of people who retired and moved to another state for their retirement has increased significantly over the past ten years.
CORRECT:- Earlier in US there were 1000 people who moved from one state of another after retirement. Out of these 50 % came to florida (meaning 500 people came to florida) Now there were 10,000 people move from one state to another and only 10 % comes to florida (meaning 10 % of 10,000=1000 people) that came to florida.
As you can see the % is decreasing but the actual number has gone up (from 500 people to 1000 people ; there is an increase of 500). This weaken the argument. Infant it kills and buries the argument 6 feet deep in the ground.

(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.
WRONG:- At best This tells one side of a story. It tells us nothing about the number of people coming to florida. At worst this option is just out of scope because our argument is concerned with retired people coming to florida and not about people leaving florida.

(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state[/quote]
WRONG:- Reverse answer. This strengthen the argument


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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage
who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local
businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect
on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?
(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average,
last year than such people did ten years ago.
(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were
ten years ago.
(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased signifi cantly
over the past ten years.
(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than
it was ten years ago.
(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state

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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage
who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local
businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect
on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?
(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average,
last year than such people did ten years ago.
(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were
ten years ago.
(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased signifi cantly
over the past ten years.
(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than
it was ten years ago.
(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state



Premises:
- Of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years.
- many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees,

Conclusion: these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect

Note here what the question says: Of the people moving on retiring, the %age who retired to Florida has decreased. Note that the actual number of people moving to Florida might actually have increased (in case more people have been retiring over the past ten years)
Say 100 people retired in a previous year and 50% i.e. 50 moved to Florida.
Say this year 200 people retired and 47% i.e. 94 moved to Florida
Many more moved to Florida.

(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased signifi cantly
over the past ten years.
We are given that actual number of people moving has increased substantially. So this is much like the case discussed above.

Answer (C)
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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?

(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average, last year than such people did ten years ago.

(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were ten years ago.

(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly over the past ten years.

(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.

(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.

please help on this...

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This is a classic NUMBER vs PROPORTION argument. The passage seems to suggest that the NUMBER of retired people moving to Florida has decreased (which will hurt local businesses). However, this is NOT what the passage actually says. It says that the PROPORTION of retired people who move to Florida has decreased.

This is much different. Here's an illustrative example:

In 2007, there was a total of 100 retired people who moved to a different state. Of those 100 people, 20 moved to Florida. In other words, 20% PERCENT of the moves were to Florida.

In 2017, there was a total of 100,000 retired people who moved to a different state. Of those 100,000 people, 10,000 moved to Florida. In other words, 10% of the moves were to Florida.

So, the PERCENTAGE of retired people moving to Florida has decreased from 20% to 10%. However the NUMBER of retired people moving to Florida has INcreased.

Answer choice C (the correct answer) says that the NUMBER of retired people moving to a different state has increased significantly over the past ten years. So, the 3% difference in the PERCENTAGE is offset by the increase in total volume.

Aside: answer choice E doesn't weaken the conclusion that Florida's economy will be harmed by the 3% decrease.

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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?

(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average, last year than such people did ten years ago.

(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were ten years ago.

(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly over the past ten years.

(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.

(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.

please help on this...

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The answer is C


Premise 1:In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years

Premise 2:many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees

Conclusion : these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.

We have to weaken the occlusion.

A is irrelevant to the argument even if they moved greater distance we do not know anything about settling in any state.

B is actually strengthening the argument

C is our correct answer as it says greater no of people who moved to other state after retirement increased.If this is true then the people retiring to Florida will increase .

D is actually strengthening the argument

E But this does not give us anything about the number of people who moved to Florida
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