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Joe’s pie shop serves only chocolate pies and coconut cream pies. On a given day, Joe sold 200 pies, with each customer buying either one coconut cream pie, one chocolate pie, or one of each. If 80 customers bought both a coconut cream and a chocolate pie, how many chocolate pies did Joe sell?

(1) 40 customers did not buy a chocolate pie.
(2) 120 customers bought a coconut cream pie.

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Joe’s pie shop serves only chocolate pies and coconut cream pies. On a given day, Joe sold 200 pies, with each customer buying either one coconut cream pie, one chocolate pie, or one of each. If 80 customers bought both a coconut cream and a chocolate pie, how many chocolate pies did Joe sell?

(1) 40 customers did not buy a chocolate pie.
(2) 120 customers bought a coconut cream pie.



I have been asked to comment on this question..
Although answer is straight D but I too earlier did not read too much and marked D but now when I have been asked to comment, my views are..

if I have to do this in a PS..

PIES
Chocolate or coconut only

Total pies -200
80 customer take both, so 80 of chocolate and 80 of coconut
So 40 pies are remaining..200-80-80=40

Now these 40 pies will be equal to customers taking them as each is taking ONLY one in remaining 40.

(1) 40 customers did not buy a chocolate pie.
So these 40 were all coconut pie..
Final-
coconut pie : 80+40=120 and chocolate pie : 80
Sufficient

(2) 120 customers bought a coconut cream pie
So 120 purchased coconut pies but we know that 80 chocolate pies were picked along with coconut pies by 80 customers..
Final-
coconut pie : 120 and chocolate pie : 80
Sufficient

D..
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Joe’s pie shop serves only chocolate pies and coconut cream pies. On a given day, Joe sold 200 pies, with each customer buying either one coconut cream pie, one chocolate pie, or one of each. If 80 customers bought both a coconut cream and a chocolate pie, how many chocolate pies did Joe sell?

(1) 40 customers did not buy a chocolate pie.
(2) 120 customers bought a coconut cream pie.


2 overlapping sets can always be broken into the same 4 categories (both, only A, only B, neither).
This is a Precise approach.

total number of pies= 200
(both chocolate and cocount) = 80
neither = 0 as all customers bought at least one pie
so (only chocolate) + (only cococunt) = total - (both) - (neither) = 200 - 80 - 0 = 120
question - how much is (only chocolate) + (both chocolate and coconut)?

Since we know that (only chocolate) + (only coconut) = 120, all we need to is the value of (only coconut).

(1) then these 40 must have bought a cococunt pie meaning that (only coconut) = 40. Exactly what we need!
Sufficient.

(2) gives us (only coconut) + (both). Since we know that (both) = 80, we can calculate (only coconut).
Sufficient.

(D) is our answer.
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Joe’s pie shop serves only chocolate pies and coconut cream pies. On a given day, Joe sold 200 pies, with each customer buying either one coconut cream pie, one chocolate pie, or one of each. If 80 customers bought both a coconut cream and a chocolate pie, how many chocolate pies did Joe sell?

(1) 40 customers did not buy a chocolate pie.
(2) 120 customers bought a coconut cream pie.


Please refer the affixed diagram.

St1:-Customers who didn’t buy chocolate pie=customers who bought only coconut pie=b=40
Customers who bought chocolate pie=a+c=200-40=160
So, Joe sold 160 nos. of chocolate pies.
Sufficient.
St2:- 120 customers bought coconut pie, b + c=120 or, b=120-80=40
So, a+c=200-b=200-40=160.
So, Joe sold 160 nos. of chocolate pies.
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Bunuel wrote:
Joe’s pie shop serves only chocolate pies and coconut cream pies. On a given day, Joe sold 200 pies, with each customer buying either one coconut cream pie, one chocolate pie, or one of each. If 80 customers bought both a coconut cream and a chocolate pie, how many chocolate pies did Joe sell?

(1) 40 customers did not buy a chocolate pie.
(2) 120 customers bought a coconut cream pie.



Please provide OA and OE.
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chocolate only + 80 + coconut only = 200
chocolate pies Joe sold: chocolate only + 80

(1) 80 choco pies only
(2) 40 coconut only; 80 choco only

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Bunuel wrote:
Joe’s pie shop serves only chocolate pies and coconut cream pies. On a given day, Joe sold 200 pies, with each customer buying either one coconut cream pie, one chocolate pie, or one of each. If 80 customers bought both a coconut cream and a chocolate pie, how many chocolate pies did Joe sell?

(1) 40 customers did not buy a chocolate pie.
(2) 120 customers bought a coconut cream pie.



Please provide OA and OE.


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OA is D, its already there below the question under 'spoiler'.
For explanation, you could refer to the following solution:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/joe-s-pie-sh ... l#p2091047
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Davidtutor's explanation is correct, even if not very detailed. The other explanations saying that the result is 160 are wrong.
They confuse pies and clients.
200 are pies, but the rest of the numbers refer to clients.
So if 80 clients bought both, it means that we have 80 choc pies and 80 coco pies.
200-2x80= 40 remaining pies.

St1) 40 didnt buy choc, so bought only coco, so the 40 remaining pies are all coco, and the choc are 80
st2) 120 bought a coco. Minus the 80 who bought both, we have 40 that bought only coco, and the choc are 80.

Answer D.
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Davidtutor's explanation is correct, even if not very detailed. The other explanations saying that the result is 160 are wrong.
They confuse pies and clients.
200 are pies, but the rest of the numbers refer to clients.
So if 80 clients bought both, it means that we have 80 choc pies and 80 coco pies.
200-2x80= 40 remaining pies.

St1) 40 didnt buy choc, so bought only coco, so the 40 remaining pies are all coco, and the choc are 80
st2) 120 bought a coco. Minus the 80 who bought both, we have 40 that bought only coco, and the choc are 80.

Answer D.


Hi gioacchinorossini,
Please go through Davidtutor's explanation again, it says 160 #customers bought chocolate pies.
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gioacchinorossini wrote:
Davidtutor's explanation is correct, even if not very detailed. The other explanations saying that the result is 160 are wrong.
They confuse pies and clients.
200 are pies, but the rest of the numbers refer to clients.
So if 80 clients bought both, it means that we have 80 choc pies and 80 coco pies.
200-2x80= 40 remaining pies.

St1) 40 didnt buy choc, so bought only coco, so the 40 remaining pies are all coco, and the choc are 80
st2) 120 bought a coco. Minus the 80 who bought both, we have 40 that bought only coco, and the choc are 80.

Answer D.


Hi
Please go through Davidtutor's explanation again, it says 160 #customers bought chocolate pies.


Dear PKN, I dont see where Davidtutor says "160 #customers bought chocolate pies" (that would be wrong).
His explanation is correct in my opinion. The other explanations of the other users are wrong (even if they come to the same answer D).
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Dear PKN, I dont see where Davidtutor says "160 #customers bought chocolate pies" (that would be wrong).
His explanation is correct in my opinion. The other explanations of the other users are wrong (even if they come to the same answer D).[/quote]

Hi gioacchinorossini
Extended explanation:-

2 overlapping sets can always be broken into the same 4 categories (both, only A, only B, neither).
This is a Precise approach.

total number of pies= 200
(both chocolate and cocount) = 80
neither = 0 as all customers bought at least one pie
so (only chocolate) + (only cococunt) = total - (both) - (neither) = 200 - 80 - 0 = 120
question - how much is (only chocolate) + (both chocolate and coconut)?

Since we know that (only chocolate) + (only coconut) = 120,----(1) all we need to is the value of (only coconut).

(1) then these 40 must have bought a cococunt pie meaning that (only coconut) = 40. Exactly what we need!

Now, from eq(1), Only chocoloate=120-40=80
Therefore, (only chocolate) + (both chocolate and coconut)=80+80=160
Sufficient.

(2) gives us (only coconut) + (both). Since we know that (both) = 80, we can calculate (only coconut).
So, Only Coconut=120-80=40
Now, from eq(1), Only chocoloate=120-40=80
Therefore, (only chocolate) + (both chocolate and coconut)=80+80=160
Sufficient.

Note:- In DS questions, exact computation is not required. Mr. David did the same thru reasoning, final answer(numerical value) is not required , only data sufficiency is checked.
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I disagree. There are no choco-coco pies. The pies are either choco or coco. But the clients can buy coco or choco or both. That's why I said that all explanations, apart from the David's one, are wrong, because they confuse clients and pies, and they add clients and pies. I know that in DS you dont need to get the result, I am a GMAT tutor since 2009. Still, if we want to find the answer as if it were PS, it is 80 and not 160.
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gioacchinorossini wrote:
I disagree. There are no choco-coco pies. The pies are either choco or coco. But the clients can buy coco or choco or both. That's why I said that all explanations, apart from the David's one, are wrong, because they confuse clients and pies, and they add clients and pies. I know that in DS you dont need to get the result, I am a GMAT tutor since 2009. Still, if we want to find the answer as if it were PS, it is 80 and not 160.

Yes. Your reasoning is correct. Thanks a lot.kudos.
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Thanks. I am glad I was able to clarify the thing for us and for the next readers ;-)
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Joe’s pie shop serves only chocolate pies and coconut cream pies. On a given day, Joe sold 200 pies, with each customer buying either one coconut cream pie, one chocolate pie, or one of each. If 80 customers bought both a coconut cream and a chocolate pie, how many chocolate pies did Joe sell?

(1) 40 customers did not buy a chocolate pie.
(2) 120 customers bought a coconut cream pie.


Can be solved with 2x2 matrix as well..

Answer would be D
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Can be solved with 2x2 matrix as well..

Answer would be D


How? I had tried it, but I still needed to convert the 200 pies into 120 clients, it is not easier than my solution (or than David's solution) in my opinion.
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Joe’s pie shop serves only chocolate pies and coconut cream pies. On a given day, Joe sold 200 pies, with each customer buying either one coconut cream pie, one chocolate pie, or one of each. If 80 customers bought both a coconut cream and a chocolate pie, how many chocolate pies did Joe sell?

(1) 40 customers did not buy a chocolate pie.
(2) 120 customers bought a coconut cream pie.

FILL IN THE 2X2 MATRIX TABLE with the details given in question, you shall then arrive at D option.

Attached is the table.. hope it helps..
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Joe’s pie shop serves only chocolate pies and coconut cream pies. On a given day, Joe sold 200 pies, with each customer buying either one coconut cream pie, one chocolate pie, or one of each. If 80 customers bought both a coconut cream and a chocolate pie, how many chocolate pies did Joe sell?

(1) 40 customers did not buy a chocolate pie.
(2) 120 customers bought a coconut cream pie.

FILL IN THE 2X2 MATRIX TABLE with the details given in question, you shall then arrive at D option.

Attached is the table.. hope it helps..


Your table is wrong. Please read my comments above.
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gioacchinorossini really is it incorrect? May i know the correct answer to the question


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