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chetan2u Bunuel MartyMurray: Can anyone please help me solve this? This is from the DI 2023-24 Review. Thanks.­

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The question just asks us when will the two hands of clock meet after 3:00.

For sure, the distance travelled will be different. The minute hand will travel 90 degree extra. So, let us equate the angles they would travel.

Say both meet after x minutes.

Hour hand: It travels 360 in 12 hours or 30 degree per hour, that is 1/2 degree per minute. So x minutes would mean x*(1/2) or x/2 degree movement.

Minute hand: It travels 360 in 1 hour, that is 6 degrees per minute. So x minutes would mean x*6 degree movement.
Thus should be equal to 90 degree plus (x/2) degree done by hour hand.

=> \(6x=­90+\frac{x}{2}\)
\(12x=180+x......11x=180......x=\frac{180}{11}=\frac{16*11+4}{11}=16+\frac{4}{11}\)

now 4/11 minutes would mean 60*4/11 or 240/11 or 22 seconds approx. 

The answer is 16 minutes 22 seconds ­
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­On a 12-hour analog clock, the hour hand moves at a constant rate of 1 revolution every 12 hours, and the minute hand moves at a constant rate of 1 revolution every hour. The hands are perpendicular at 3:00 in the morning. To the nearest second, the next time they are superimposed (i.e., both pointing at the same point on the outer rim of the clock face) is M minutes and S seconds after 3:00 in the morning.Select for M and for S values that are consistent with the information provided. Make only two selections, one in each column.­­­

To determine when they will be superimposed, we must determine when they will both have completed the same fraction of a revolution.

At 3:00, the minute hand has completed none of a revolution, and the hour hand has completed 1/4 of a revolution.

The minute hand travels at the rate of 1 revolution/hour.

The hour hand travels at the rate of 1/12 revolution/hour.

So, we can determine how long they will need to take to arrive at the same spot using the following formula, in which T represents a quantity of time in hours:

1/4 + T × 1/12 = T × 1

1/4 + T/12 = T

1/4 = 11T/12

(1/4)/(11/12) = T

3/11 = T

Since there are 60 minutes in an hour, the number of minutes is 3/11 × 60 ≈ 16.36 minutes ≈ 16 minutes and 60 × 0.36 seconds ≈ 16 minutes and 22 seconds.

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For M, select 16.

For S, select 22.­­­­
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­On a 12-hour analog clock, the hour hand moves at a constant rate of 1 revolution every 12 hours, and the minute hand moves at a constant rate of 1 revolution every hour. The hands are perpendicular at 3:00 in the morning. To the nearest second, the next time they are superimposed (i.e., both pointing at the same point on the outer rim of the clock face) is M minutes and S seconds after 3:00 in the morning.Select for M and for S values that are consistent with the information provided. Make only two selections, one in each column.­
To determine when they will be superimposed, we must determine when they will both have completed the same fraction of a revolution.
At 3:00, the minute hand has completed none of a revolution, and the hour hand has completed 1/4 of a revolution.
The minute hand travels at the rate of 1 revolution/hour.
The hour hand travels at the rate of 1/12 revolution/hour.
So, we can determine how long they will need to take to arrive at the same spot using the following formula, in which T represents a quantity of time in hours:
1/4 + T × 1/12 = T × 1
1/4 + T/12 = T
1/4 = 11T/12
(1/4)/(11/12) = T
3/11 = T
Since there are 60 minutes in an hour, the number of minutes is 3/11 × 60 ≈ 16.36 minutes ≈ 16 minutes and 60 × 0.36 seconds ≈ 16 minutes and 22 seconds.
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For M, select 16.
For S, select 22.­

­Hi Marty,
Just wanted an advise, I solved this question in approx 8 mins. Do you think that it would advisable to solve question which would take more than 3 mins?  
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All Data Insight question: TPA [ Official Guide DI Review 2023-24] 

­On a 12-hour analog clock, the hour hand moves at a constant rate of 1 revolution every 12 hours, and the minute hand moves at a constant rate of 1 revolution every hour. The hands are perpendicular at 3:00 in the morning. To the nearest second, the next time they are superimposed (i.e., both pointing at the same point on the outer rim of the clock face) is M minutes and S seconds after 3:00 in the morning.Select for M and for S values that are consistent with the information provided. Make only two selections, one in each column.­

­Alternate approach:
At 12am, the hour hand and the minute hand are superimposed over 12.
For the two hands to meet again, the minute hand must make 1 more revolution than the hour hand.
For the two hands to be superimposed after 3am, the minute hand must make 3 more revolutions than the hour hand.

Since the hour hand makes 1/12 revolution per hour, the number of revolutions made by the hour hand in t hours = (rate)(time) = (1/12)t
Since the minute hand makes 1 revolution per hour, the number of revolutions made by the minute hand in t hours = (rate)(time) = 1*t = t
Snce the number of revolutions for the minute hand must be 3 greater than the number of revolutions for the hour hand, we get:
t = (1/12)t + 3
12t = t + 36
11t = 36
t = 36/11 --> 3 and 3/11 hours --> 3/11 hour after 3am

(3/11 hour)(60 minutes per hour) = 16.36 minutes
Since 1/3 minute = 20 seconds, 0.36 minutes = a bit more than 20 seconds
Among the answer choices, only 22 is viable for the number of seconds.
Thus:
M = 16 minutes
S = 22 seconds
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The question just asks us when will the two hands of clock meet after 3:00.

For sure, the distance travelled will be different. The minute hand will travel 90 degree extra. So, let us equate the angles they would travel.

Say both meet after x minutes.

Hour hand: It travels 360 in 12 hours or 30 degree per hour, that is 1/2 degree per minute. So x minutes would mean x*(1/2) or x/2 degree movement.

Minute hand: It travels 360 in 1 hour, that is 6 degrees per minute. So x minutes would mean x*6 degree movement.
Thus should be equal to 90 degree plus (x/2) degree done by hour hand.

=> \(6x=­90+\frac{x}{2}\)
\(12x=180+x......11x=180......x=\frac{180}{11}=\frac{16*11+4}{11}=16+\frac{4}{11}\)

now 4/11 minutes would mean 60*4/11 or 240/11 or 22 seconds approx. 

The answer is 16 minutes 22 seconds ­

­Hey Chetan, can you please explain the highlighted part, I got everything else
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KushagraKirtiman wrote:
­Hi Marty,
Just wanted an advise, I solved this question in approx 8 mins. Do you think that it would advisable to solve question which would take more than 3 mins?

­Hi KushagraKirtiman.

When you're practicing, taking 8 minutes to solve a question is fine. By taking all the time you need to answer a practice question, you give yourself time to learn. As you develop skill, you'll speed up and answer questions in less time.

On the other hand, in general, when you're taking the GMAT, you should not spend 8 minutes on any one question unless you're pretty sure you'll be super fast on the rest of the questions in the section or you're near the end of the section and you have extra time that you can use to spend 8 minutes on one question without geting behind on time. Spending 3 or 4 minutes on a question might make sense sometimes, but spending 8 or more rarely works out.­
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