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One smurf and one elf can build a treehouse together in two hours, but the smurf would need the help of two fairies in order to complete the same job in the same amount of time. If one elf and one fairy worked together, it would take them four hours to build the treehouse. Assuming that work rates for smurfs, elves, and fairies remain constant, how many hours would it take one smurf, one elf, and one fairy, working together, to build the treehouse?

(A) 5/7

(B) 1

(C) 10/7

(D) 12/7

(E) 22/7


1/s+1/e=1/2

1/s+2/f=1/2

1/e+1/f=1/4

here is where I got stuck on for a long time. I tried manipulating the equations in which we have

(s+e)/es=1/2 --> 2s+2e=es.... ya this doesnt work out too well.

Dawned on me on my way back from training... just make 1/s+1/e=1/s+2/f

1/e=2/f --> 2e=f

1/e+1/2e=1/4 --> 3/2e=1/4 --> e=6

1/s+1/6=1/2 --> 1/s= 2/6 --> s=3

1/3+2/f=1/2 --> 2f+12=3f --> f=12

Now its just

1/6+1/12+1/3 --> 1/12+2/12+4/12 --> 7/12 equals combined rate. we need t=1/7/12 --> 12/7hrs or ~1.71hrs

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One smurf and one elf can build a treehouse together in two hours, but the smurf would need the help of two fairies in order to complete the same job in the same amount of time. If one elf and one fairy worked together, it would take them four hours to build the treehouse. Assuming that work rates for smurfs, elves, and fairies remain constant, how many hours would it take one smurf, one elf, and one fairy, working together, to build the treehouse?

(A) 5/7

(B) 1

(C) 10/7

(D) 12/7

(E) 22/7
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Re: PS Work problem smurf and treehouse [#permalink]
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1 elf ~ 2 Fairys

elf completes job in x hrs
therefore (1 fairy and 1 elf) gives 1/2x + 1/x = 1/2, x = 6

time to complete job:
1 elf: 6 hrs
1 Fairy: 12 hrs
1 Smurf: 3 hrs (1/s + 1/6 = 1/2)

all 3 together (t hrs):
1/3 + 1/6 + 1/12 = 1/t
t = 12/7
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i was trying to do something similar to what walker did (which is probably the most beautiful solution of such problem) but couldn't find it right away (didn't spend more than 10 sec). It's obvious that e = 2f, then since e+f = 1/4, f = 1/12.

then s+e+f = (s+e) + f = 1/2 + 1/12 = 7/12 -> the answer is D.
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Would you mind going through your line of thought on this. I do not understand why everything is 1/e, 1/f, 1/4, etc... why isn't it just e, f, 4, etc? Please help!!! Thanks
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Would you mind going through your line of thought on this. I do not understand why everything is 1/e, 1/f, 1/4, etc... why isn't it just e, f, 4, etc? Please help!!! Thanks


Let me try to explain based on my understanding:

e is the time that it takes an elf to build the treehouse
Hence, 1/e is the rate or speed of work for an elf (for eg. if it takes 8 hours for an elf to build the treehouse, the rate of work for the elf is 1/8th of the treehouse per hour)

Similarly, 1/f and 1/s are the RATES of work that a fairy and smurf can get done in an hour.

The equations represent the rate of work on both sides. For instance,
(1/s) + (1/e) = (1/2)
represents that in an hour, a smurf and elf together can build half the treehouse (think of 1/2 as -- if the total treehouse is 1, the RATE or speed of construction is 1/2 per hour)

Think of it as a speed, time and distance relationship. Rates can be added on both sides of the equation, as long as the distance is constant, and the time slice is fixed (per hour). Here the distance = 1 and the time we set the equations up for is 1 hour. So this would look like
[speed of construction for an elf] + [speed of construction for a smurf] = [their combined speed]
[total distance / time taken by an elf] + [total distance / time taken by an smurf] = [total distance / total time taken by an elf and smurf]

Hope that helps!
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Re: One smurf and one elf can build a treehouse together in two [#permalink]
It's simpler to set it up on same hours. The algebra is a mess.

a) 1 smurf and 1 elf : 4h: 2tree
b) 1 smurf and 2 fairy : 4h: 2tree
c) 1 elf and 1 fairy : 4h: 1tree

a and b mean 1 elf = 2 fairies
then c means 3 fairies make 1 tree in 4 hours, or 1 fairy makes (1/3)t in 4h
then b means 1 smurf makes (4/3)t in 4h
and a implies 1 elf makes (2/3)t in 4h

adding up parts of trees: 4h : (7/3)t and from here it's simple to get trees per hour, hours per tree, or any variation, just by scaling up or down.

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Re: One smurf and one elf can build a treehouse together in two [#permalink]
1/e=2/f
f=2e

Can someone explain to me how this works.

I thought that the rate of 2 faries = 1 elf , since 1/s + 1/e = 1/2 and 1/s = 1/2f = 1/2 too.
2f = e
f = e/2 , isn't that right.
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Re: One smurf and one elf can build a treehouse together in two [#permalink]
if you are stuck with this question when last few seconds are left. Try eliminating options.

if 1 elf and 1 smurf can do the job in 2 hrs and we add 1 fairy to the team the time will be less than 2 hrs. Option E is out
From second condition we can see 2 faries are equal to 1 elf in terms of work doing capability. So adding only 1 fairy will not reduce the time by half (1 hr). Option A and B are out.

you have a 50:50 chance in C and D.
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Let their respective rate per hour be;

Smurf: S work/hour
Elf: E work/hour
Fairy: F work/hour

2S + 2E = 1; 2S = 1-2E --- A
2S + 4F = 1; 1-2E+4F=1; 2E-4F=0 ---- 1
4E + 4F = 1 ----------2

Solving 1 and 2
E = 1/6; F=1/12;
Substituting them in A
S = 1/3

Now;
1/6+1/12+1/3 = 1/t
t = 12/7

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Re: work problem __confusing [#permalink]
1/S + 1/E = 1/2

1/S + 2/F = 1/2

1/E + 1/F = 1/4

2/F + 1/F = 1/4 => 1/F = 1/12; 1/E = 1/6 and 1/S = 1/2 - 1/6 = (3-1)/6 = 2/6 = 1/3

So 1/S + 1/E + 1/F = 1/3 + 1/6 + 1/12 = (4 + 2 + 1)/12 = 7/12

So the answer is D.
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Re: work problem __confusing [#permalink]
1/S + 1/E = 1/2 -----1

1/S + 2/F = 1/2------2

1/E + 1/F = 1/4------3

1/S + 1/E + 1/F = 1/t ---4

t=?

substituting 1 in 4 ; 4=> 1/2+1/F = 1/t

solving 2 & 3 by substituting 1, 1/F = 1/12 ----5

substituting 5 in 4 => 1/2+1/12 = 1/t

=> t = 12/7

Answer is D.
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Re: work problem __confusing [#permalink]
the key to reduce calculation is e=2f as done by maraticus
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Here's how I solved it -

1/s + 1/e = 1/2

1/s + 1/f + 1/f = 1/2

Therefore, 1/e = 1/f + 1/f = 2/f

1/e + 1/f = 1/4
2/f + 1/f = 1/4
3/f = 1/4
f = 12

Thus, e = 6
and therefore , s = 3

For the final answer -- 1/s + 1/e + 1/f = 1/3 + 1/6 + 1/12 = 7/12

Therefore, the time taken would be 12/7

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I'm really struggling with this question.

I understand that 1e = 2f but can't progress from there. Can anyone write out their thinking in words instead of math? Maybe that would help me better understand how they arrived at the correct answer.

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kthxbye wrote:
I'm really struggling with this question.

I understand that 1e = 2f but can't progress from there. Can anyone write out their thinking in words instead of math? Maybe that would help me better understand how they arrived at the correct answer.

Thank you!


Please read Karishma's post: one-smurf-and-one-elf-can-build-a-treehouse-together-in-two-58306.html#p891453

Hope it helps.
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Re: One smurf and one elf can build a treehouse together in two [#permalink]
Work done = Rate of work * Time taken

for first eq: One smurf and one elf can build a treehouse together in two hours

(S + E) 2 = 1 (a tree house = one tree house = 1 work done)
S+ E = 1/2

similarly : 1/S + 2/F = 1/2
1/E + 1/F = 1/4

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